[閒聊] 300-300俱樂部

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https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-players-with-300-homers-and-300-steals Doing one thing extremely well in the Major Leagues is difficult enough. Being able to do two very different things well is truly special. 在大聯盟中把一項工作做到頂尖就很困難了，能把兩件非常困難的事給做好那真的是與眾不同。 That’s why the power-speed combo is such a valuable asset. Typically, those tools are at odds. The type of big slugger who tends to rack up homers is often no threat on the bases. And the sort of fleet-footed burner with a knack for collecting stolen bases rarely is a prime candidate to go deep. 這也是為什麼力量與速度的結合是如此具有價值的資產。一般來說，這兩項能力是互相衝突的：很會打全壘打的巨砲通常在壘包上沒啥威脅性；而腳踏風火輪的盜壘專家通常不太會把球打得深遠。 That’s why 40 homers and 40 steals in the same season is one of the game’s most exclusive clubs. Fewer than two players per year even reach the 30-30 mark. 這也是為什麼單季40轟40盜是棒球裡最罕見的境界之一。每年甚至只有兩名以下的球員在同一季達到30轟30盜。 Of course, those aren’t the only ways to measure this rare blend of skills. Power doesn’t only manifest itself in homers, and the same is true for speed and steals. But a player who reaches a significant career milestone in both of those traditional stats clearly has a diverse array of tools. 當然啦，這並不是鑑定這種罕見能力的唯一方式：一個球員的力量並不侷限於打全壘打的能力；速度也不僅限於盜壘能力。但在這些傳統數據上達到某里程碑想必有著多方面的本領。 Through 2019, there were 148 players all-time with at least 300 career homers. There were 167 with 300-plus steals. But there are only eight who belong to both groups. Some are obvious. A few may surprise you. 截至2019，史上只有148名球員達成300轟的門檻；而達成300盜門檻的則是167人。但兩者皆達成的只有八人：其中有些大家會覺得毫不意外，有些則會跌破你眼鏡。 Here are baseball’s ultimate power-speed players -- the members of the 300-300 club. Players are listed in order of career home run total. 以下就是300-300俱樂部成員，也就是棒球史上的終極力量速度雙棲球員，並以生涯全壘打總數排序。 Barry Bonds (762 HR, 514 SB) Well, yeah. Bonds blew so far past the 300 thresholds that you could cut his totals in half, and he would still almost make it. But it’s worth noting that even if he had retired at the age of 31, after the 1996 season -- the year he went 40-40 -- he would have done so with 334 big flies and 380 steals. That made Bonds the youngest to join the club, a good reminder that while the power peaked late, he was an incredibly dynamic athlete who stole at least 28 bases in 12 of his first 13 seasons. 是的，沒錯。Bonds的數據超出門檻到就算你把他的數據切半，他依然幾乎達成門檻。值得一提的是，假設他在年僅31歲、達成40-40的1996年球季後退休，他依然會以334轟以及380盜之姿成為此俱樂部的最年輕成員。這提醒了我們即使他的力量較晚才達到高峰，他當年可是在生涯前13個球季中有12季至少有28盜的高機動性球員。（編按：20年前的今天，美國時間2000年5月1日，Bonds成為史上第一個把球打進舊金山灣的人。https://tinyurl.com/yb3drgxq） Alex Rodriguez (696 HR, 329 SB) There are, obviously, a lot of parallels here with Bonds, although outside of his 40-40 campaign in 1998, Rodriguez never reached the 30-steals plateau (He did get to double digits 14 times, however). Where Rodriguez really stands out is his position: The shortstop/third baseman is the only player on the list who wasn’t an outfielder. 很明顯地A-Rod和Bond間有許多的共通點，即使在他1998年達成40-40前從來沒有單季30 盜過（他生涯倒是有14次單季雙位數盜壘）。而讓A-Rod最突出的點在於他的守位：這位游擊手/三壘手是這名單中唯一一位非外野手成員。 Willie Mays (660 HR, 338 SB) The Say Hey Kid never went 40-40, but he did hit 51 homers in 1955 and then stole 40 bases the next year. From 1955-60, he averaged 36 big flies and 31 steals -- a period when he won all four of his stolen base titles. Mays generally did not run much after age 33, but somehow he swiped 23 bases in 1971, making him one of six players in modern history to reach that total at age 40 or older. 傳說中的“Say Hey Kid”從未單季40-40，但他在1955年打了51轟，並且在隔年盜了40 次。在1955-60年間，他平均每季36轟31盜，而他也是在這段期間奪下他生涯的四座盜壘王頭銜。基本上Mays在33歲後就不太盜壘，但他在1971年罕見地盜了23次，使他成為現代史上唯六在40歲後還能有單季至少23盜的球員之一。 Andrew Dawson (438 HR, 314 SB) By the time The Hawk was the NL MVP for the 1987 Cubs, the 32-year-old was much more of a slugger (49 homers) than a speedster (11 steals) after years of sacrificing his knees to the artificial turf at Montreal’s Olympic Stadium. But the young Dawson could do it all. In his first seven full seasons, for the Expos from 1977-83, he averaged 24 homers and 30 steals, while also winning the first four of his eight career Gold Glove Awards. 在膝蓋飽受多年於蒙特婁奧運球場的人工草皮折騰後，當效力於小熊的32歲“The Hawk” 於1987年贏得國聯最有價值球員時，他已經逐漸轉為大砲型球員（49轟11盜）。但年輕時的Dawson可是兩者通包：他效力於博覽會的生涯頭七年，也就是1977-83年間，他平均每年可產出24轟30盜，而他生涯八次金手套的前四座也是這段期間贏得的。 Carlos Beltran (435 HR, 312 SB) A 22-year-old Beltran notched 22 homers and 27 steals to take AL Rookie of the Year honors for the 1999 Royals, and with that ignited a run as one of baseball’s most dynamic all-around players for the next decade. It was the first of his seven 20-20 campaigns, tied for fourth all-time. Beltran stands out not just for his stolen base total, but also his efficiency. His career success rate of 86.4% ranks first all-time for a player with at least 200 attempts. 時年22歲的皇家球員Beltran在1999年以22轟27盜奪下了最佳新人王，而這也是他於下個十年中成為聯盟中最全能球星之一：名列史上第四佳的七個20-20球季的起點。Beltran 驚人的點不只是他的生涯總盜壘數，而是他的高效率：他的生涯盜壘成功率在至少200次嘗試盜壘的球員中是史上第一的86.4%。 Bobby Bonds (332 HR, 461 SB) Before there was Barry, there was Bobby. In his first full season in 1969, the elder Bonds smacked 32 big flies and swiped 45 bases. It was the start of an 11-season run during which he averaged 28 homers and 39 steals and put together 10 20-20 campaigns to set a record matched only by his son. 早在Barry之前就已有了Bobby。老Bonds在生涯第一個完整球季的1969年就有32轟45盜。而這只是他接下來平均每年28轟39盜的11個球季的起點。他生涯10個20-20球季的紀錄至今只有他自己的兒子能追平。 Reggie Sanders (305 HR, 304 SB) This one might come as a bit of a surprise, because Sanders made only one All-Star team and generally flew under the radar. But he was a sneaky power-speed threat throughout his career and was able to just get over the 300 plateau in both categories. While he had a total of just three top-10 finishes in his league in homers and steals, Sanders cracked double digits in both every year from 1992-2005, when he was 37. 這個可能就令人感到意外了，因為Sanders生涯只打過一次明星賽而且常被忽略。但他生涯低調地展現出力量與速度方面的威脅，最後也剛好跨過這門檻。雖然Sanders生涯只有三季全壘打和盜壘數都在所屬聯盟中排進前十，他從1992年直到他37歲的2005年間每年都有雙位數的全壘打以及盜壘數。 Steve Finley (304 HR, 320 SB) He and Sanders make a good pair. The two outfielders’ careers overlapped almost exactly, both bounced around to eight teams, and both were productive for a long time without ever being considered big stars (though Finley won five Gold Gloves in center and played a major role in Arizona’s 2001 championship). So it’s fitting that Finley reached 300-300 in the same month as Sanders (June 2006), a time when he also happened to be teammates with the No. 1 player on this list. 他和Sanders可說是一對寶：這兩位外野手的生涯幾乎完全重疊、兩位生涯都待過八支球隊、兩位在球場上都長期有穩定產出卻沒有被視為過大牌球星（雖然Finley贏過五次中外野金手套獎，也是2001響尾蛇贏下冠軍的重要班底之一）。所以這兩人同樣在2006年六月達成300-300里程碑好像也很合理。Finley當時也正好和本名單上的第一人同隊。 Closest calls Another eight players have reached at least 275 homers and steals without quite cracking 300-300. But since some of their combined totals are arguably more impressive than a few members of the 300-300 club, here is a quick look at these honorable mentions. 有另外八名球員生涯至少275轟275盜，就是沒有兩樣都達成300門檻。但既然這八人中有些項目的累計數字比一些300-300俱樂部成員還令人印象深刻，現在就來看看這些遺珠。 Rickey Henderson (297 HR, 1,406 SB): The all-time leader in steals also hit as many as 28 homers in a season twice. 這位史上盜壘王可是有兩季敲了28轟。（編按：1991年的今天，美國時間五月一日，Henderson超越Lou Brock成為史上盜壘王；而當天稍晚，Nolan Ryan投出他生涯第七場、也是最後一場無安打完封） Craig Biggio (291 HR, 414 SB): He needed just a handful of his 668 career doubles (fifth all-time) to carry out of the ballpark. 他那名列史上第五多的668二壘打只要有幾支飛過牆就可以達成門檻了。（編按：他生涯也挨了285觸身球，差點就達成史無前例的300-300-300里程碑） Alfonso Soriano (412 HR, 289 SB): He didn’t get to 300-300, but he did get to 40-40 in 2006. 他雖然沒有達成300-300門檻，但他在2006年達成了單季40-40里程碑。 Bobby Abreu (288 HR, 400 SB): His nine 20-20 campaigns are the most all-time in the non-Bonds division. 他生涯九次20-20球季是扣掉Bonds家族外史上最多的。 Don Baylor (338 HR, 285 SB): He put it all together for the Angels in his 1979 MVP season (36 HR, 22 SB), when he also led the AL in runs (120) and RBIs (139). 他生涯精華都集中在贏得美聯最有價值球員的1979年球季（36轟22盜），他那年120得分和139打點也是全美聯之冠。 Eric Davis (282 HR, 349 SB): Before injuries got in the way, his breathtaking ability yielded astonishing numbers, such as 47 homers and 98 steals over one 162-game stretch between 1986-87. 在受傷痛所苦前，他令人屏息的天賦曾帶來驚人的數字，比如1986-87球季間162場比賽中刷出了47轟98盜的成績。 Ryne Sandberg (282 HR, 344 SB): At different points in his career, he posted seasons of 26-54 (1985) and 40-25 (‘90). 在他生涯的兩不同階段中，他分別在1985年達成26-54、以及1990年達成40-25。 Mike Cameron (278 HR, 297 SB): He averaged better than 20-20 over a 13-year stretch (1997-2009) in which he played for six teams. 他在1997-2009共效力六支不同球隊的13的年頭中平均超過20轟20盜。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 74.79.252.131 (美國) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1588363654.A.178.html

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