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[外絮] Ryan Anderson <-> Omer Asik 合理?已回收

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One such trade that seems to fit that description is the rumored deal between the New Orleans Pelicans and Houston Rockets that would swap Ryan Anderson for Omer Asik. 一項能夠符合兩隊需求的交易傳聞就是鵜鶘的Ryan Anderson與火箭的Omer Asik互換。 Rumors of an Anderson-for-Asik deal initially surfaced over the offseason, shortly after the Rockets signed Dwight Howard, but they’re starting to pop up again now that Asik’s departure is inevitable due to his recent trade request. 這筆交易傳聞在季前火箭簽下Dwight Howard時就有風聲，不過根據最近的交易方案來 看，Asik的離開是勢在必行的。 Houston’s biggest weakness this season has been the play of their power forwards. When playing Howard and Asik together didn’t work out, the Rockets tried Terrence Jones and Donatas Motiejunas at the four, but neither second-year player is ready to produce at a high level on a team with championship aspirations. 火箭本季最大的問題就是大前鋒的位置。雙塔戰術並不可行，Terrence Jones以及 Donatas Motiejunas這兩位二年級生還沒有辦法拿出具有冠軍球隊的水準。 Anderson could be the solution for Houston and as one of the best stretch fours in the NBA, he would fit in the Rockets' system perfectly since they value threes and want to surround Howard and James Harden with shooters. 身為聯盟最棒的四號位球員之一的Anderson，會是火箭非常棒的答案。他會非常適合 火箭目前的體系，尤其在他們評估過後，認為應該在Howard及James Harden身邊擺出射手。 Anderson played alongside Howard for three seasons on the Orlando Magic and they were very productive together since they complement each other well. While Howard and Anderson weren’t particularly close during their stint in Orlando (with Howard sometimes chewing out Anderson in a packed locker room following losses), there’s no questioning the results. Anderson is one of the best three-point shooters in the league, drawing his man out of the paint and creating space for Howard. Meanwhile, Howard attracts double-teams down low and kicks the ball out for open threes. Howard and Anderson had some of their best statistical seasons playing alongside each other, and this move would seemingly make Houston a better team. Anderson在魔術曾經陪同Howard奮戰三個球季，他們兩個的輸出非常可觀。他可以幫助 Howard吸引防守球員，同時又能夠有投射三分的能力，他們兩個會讓火箭成為一支非常 棒的球隊。 While the Pelicans love Anderson and aren’t actively shopping him like the Rockets are Asik, they would be open to moving the forward if the right offer came along. Asik, who last season proved to be a starting-caliber center and one of the better defensive big men in the league, might just be that offer. 而鵜鶘並沒有像火箭對待Asik那樣積極的出售Anderson，但他們如果有好的條件能夠 匹配的話，這是有可能發生的。Asik上個球季已經證明他是聯盟當中非常棒的防守大 個子。 Entering this season, it was clear that the biggest hole in New Orleans was at the center position. Jrue Holiday, Eric Gordon, Tyreke Evans and Anthony Davis had the Pelicans talking about making the playoffs, but it’s hard to picture this team making any noise in the Western Conference with Jason Smith, Jeff Withey or Greg Stiemsma starting at the five. Now, with Stiemsma out for six to eight weeks with an MCL sprain, their frontcourt is even thinner than before. Davis has shown that he can be one of the best power forwards in the NBA (another reason that Anderson is expendable), but he can’ t play center. 這個賽季很明顯的，中鋒是鵜鶘非常大的漏洞。儘管他們球員都把目標放在季後賽，但 看見Jason Smith, Jeff Withey及Greg Stiemsma來扛中鋒這個位置，在西區實在很難 達到他們的目標，尤其Stiemsma又因為MCL的傷勢必須缺席6-8周，他們的前場戰力會更 加吃緊。Anthony Davis證明了它可以成唯一個非常棒的大前鋒，但他沒辦法擔任中鋒。 只挑重點部份翻譯。 原文縮址:http://ppt.cc/0Y0P 附錄:兩人薪資 合約 2013-14 2014-15 Omer Asik 5.2M 14.8M 合約 2013-14 2014-15 2015-16 Ryan Anderson 8.3M 8.4M 8.5M 附錄:Anderson近三年表現 Ryan Anderson GP MIN FG% 3FG% | PTS REB 2011-12 61 32.2 43.9% 39.3% | 16.1 7.7 2012-13 81 30.9 42.3% 38.2% | 16.2 6.4 2013-14 1 27.0 62.5% 60.0% | 26.0 1.0 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 163.29.152.210
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11/19 11:05, , 1F
怎麼可能單換...鵜鶘會虧死吧
11/19 11:05, 1F
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11/19 11:06, , 2F
這筆交易我覺得會成 各取所需
11/19 11:06, 2F
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11/19 11:06, , 3F
.....換三小
11/19 11:06, 3F
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11/19 11:06, , 4F
Asik的實力 鵜鶘怎麼會虧到
11/19 11:06, 4F
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11/19 11:06, , 5F
鵜鶘需要RA的替補火力 換Asik來不值得阿
11/19 11:06, 5F
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11/19 11:06, , 6F
How about Lin?
11/19 11:06, 6F
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11/19 11:07, , 7F
TJ比較好用吧，有籃板有阻攻，火箭也不是沒有射手
11/19 11:07, 7F
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11/19 11:07, , 8F
還蠻公平的啊
11/19 11:07, 8F
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11/19 11:07, , 9F
鵜鶘要這麼多白肉柱會變雞肋
11/19 11:07, 9F
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11/19 11:07, , 10F
鵜鶘沒必要補苦力內線吧
11/19 11:07, 10F
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11/19 11:07, , 11F
TJ有防守,RA有火力,換來的話火箭賺翻了
11/19 11:07, 11F
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11/19 11:08, , 12F
其實是可行的， 現在鵜鶘Davis的防守壓力很大
11/19 11:08, 12F
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11/19 11:08, , 13F
鵜鶘需要硬一點的C減輕狀元壓力 現在這C不行
11/19 11:08, 13F
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11/19 11:09, , 14F
非常合理，軟豆那個有點扯
11/19 11:09, 14F
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11/19 11:09, , 15F
現在這幾支C防守不夠好 但是少了RA替補火力更悲劇
11/19 11:09, 15F
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11/19 11:09, , 16F
是我我會換....給EJ多一點開火權
11/19 11:09, 16F
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11/19 11:09, , 17F
鵜鶘小虧
11/19 11:09, 17F
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11/19 11:09, , 18F
其實還ok
11/19 11:09, 18F
原文著重在，升級鵜鶘的防守，提高火箭的進攻。
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11/19 11:09, , 19F
兩津專心得分吧
11/19 11:09, 19F
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11/19 11:10, , 20F
鵜鶘需要一個白肉住來分擔兩津的工作
11/19 11:10, 20F
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11/19 11:10, , 21F
A.Davis不用分心防守 會更恐怖耶
11/19 11:10, 21F
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11/19 11:10, , 22F
鵜鶘虧 鵜鶘很缺外圍火力
11/19 11:10, 22F
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11/19 11:10, , 23F
也傳出ASIK(兩年平均8M)<->YOUNG(三年平均8M)
11/19 11:10, 23F
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11/19 11:11, , 24F
火箭三分又要瘋狂射出了
11/19 11:11, 24F
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11/19 11:11, , 25F
鵜鶘可以等暑假再換 先拿到樂透比較重要
11/19 11:11, 25F
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11/19 11:11, , 26F
而且鵜鶘有Smith 也送走Lopez 不覺得很需要再來傳統C
11/19 11:11, 26F
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11/19 11:11, , 27F
Stiemsma跟Smith根本無法分擔啊 兩津累死了
11/19 11:11, 27F
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11/19 11:12, , 28F
有中距離比較重要阿 真要當時為啥不留Lopez
11/19 11:12, 28F
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11/19 11:12, , 29F
鵜鶘有超多禁區白苦力阿 再來一支有點雞肋
11/19 11:12, 29F
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11/19 11:13, , 30F
不過火箭如果真的釋出阿西 就祈禱DH能健康扛完整季
11/19 11:13, 30F
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11/19 11:13, , 31F
應該是想要給ASIK打C防守 看兩津打PF可以大爆發嗎
11/19 11:13, 31F
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11/19 11:13, , 32F
DH掛的話 火箭最多也就和上季一樣啊
11/19 11:13, 32F
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11/19 11:13, , 33F
兩津現在已經是PF了
11/19 11:13, 33F
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11/19 11:13, , 34F
Anderson有到"很棒的四號位"之一嗎@@
11/19 11:13, 34F
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11/19 11:14, , 35F
這要就已經大爆發了阿....怎不說是送走Lopez原因
11/19 11:14, 35F
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11/19 11:14, , 36F
就像熱火也是要祈禱LBJ不要受傷 每一隊都要祈禱
11/19 11:14, 36F
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11/19 11:14, , 37F
哇 如果Asik再來 鵜鶘就三個七呎白肉柱了
11/19 11:14, 37F
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11/19 11:14, , 38F
ASIK防守比較好吧 當兩津不需要全力防守 還有誰...
11/19 11:14, 38F
還有 27 則推文
還有 2 段內文
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11/19 11:24, , 66F
RA拉出來很有威脅性 對火箭鵜鶘兩隊都相當重要
11/19 11:24, 66F
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11/19 11:25, , 67F
這隻不是有跟草莓吵架過 草莓會願意他來嗎?
11/19 11:25, 67F
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11/19 11:29, , 68F
這樣很棒耶 雙方都得利
11/19 11:29, 68F
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11/19 11:29, , 69F
不過我猜火箭還得出選秀簽
11/19 11:29, 69F
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11/19 11:32, , 70F
鵜鶘需要外圍火力,這筆交易應該要加別的東西
11/19 11:32, 70F
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11/19 11:45, , 71F
某種程度大致上算雙贏，但鵜鶘擔心火力減弱也是沒錯
11/19 11:45, 71F
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11/19 11:45, , 72F
至少在抓個CP
11/19 11:45, 72F
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11/19 11:45, , 73F
現在感覺火箭比較急，所以鵜鶘大概還會藉機要點東西
11/19 11:45, 73F
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11/19 11:49, , 74F
為什麼Asik的薪資那麼奇怪
11/19 11:49, 74F
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11/19 11:58, , 75F
別想了 不可能 鵜鶘的陣容根本不需要再簽個正常的C
11/19 11:58, 75F
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11/19 12:00, , 76F
鵜鶘GM打造這個陣容 Ryno是很重要的一部分
11/19 12:00, 76F
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11/19 12:01, , 77F
而且Ryno不只是場上的作用 他在休息室中也是重要大將
11/19 12:01, 77F
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11/19 12:02, , 78F
單換的話 鶘鶘太吃虧了吧 呆頭鵝嗎
11/19 12:02, 78F
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11/19 12:03, , 79F
馬刺應該很樂意拿波妞換阿西 科科
11/19 12:03, 79F
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11/19 12:06, , 80F
鵜鶘傻了才換 最好有這麼多幻想的新聞
11/19 12:06, 80F
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11/19 12:07, , 81F
鵜鶘可以換來Asik但不是R.Anderson
11/19 12:07, 81F
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11/19 12:09, , 82F
鵜鶘可以用Greg Stiemsma換Asik 雙贏
11/19 12:09, 82F
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11/19 12:09, , 83F
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11/19 12:09, 83F
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11/19 12:10, , 84F
RA實力不錯 用他換啊Sik根本腦袋進水
11/19 12:10, 84F
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11/19 12:18, , 85F
火箭吃虧，有防守籃板長人換三分射手
11/19 12:18, 85F
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11/19 12:29, , 86F
窮人版LOVE換一個奶油手....算了吧
11/19 12:29, 86F
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11/19 12:41, , 87F
14m 傻了才收
11/19 12:41, 87F
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11/19 12:48, , 88F
幹嘛現在換 等火箭內鬥大傷GM宣佈跳樓大拍賣再來搶XD
11/19 12:48, 88F
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11/19 12:59, , 89F
快換別去打我們RONDO的主意
11/19 12:59, 89F
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11/19 13:01, , 90F
RA超適合鵜鶘的
11/19 13:01, 90F
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11/19 13:23, , 91F
也要R.Anderson拿的到求才有用吧
11/19 13:23, 91F
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11/19 13:30, , 92F
純講防守鵜鶘那幾隻跟asik應該沒甚麼好比的...
11/19 13:30, 92F
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11/19 13:31, , 93F
^白大個
11/19 13:31, 93F
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11/19 13:32, , 94F
RA對AD和Jason Smith的作用 可能比那雙SG還重要
11/19 13:32, 94F
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11/19 13:37, , 95F
最大問題點就是那毒藥合約 明年的1400萬..火箭要分攤
11/19 13:37, 95F
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11/19 13:41, , 96F
才有可能換
11/19 13:41, 96F
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11/19 13:47, , 97F
瘋了才會換成功
11/19 13:47, 97F
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11/19 14:02, , 98F
鵜鶘缺火力不缺苦力肉柱...不可能換
11/19 14:02, 98F
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11/19 14:23, , 99F
Asik? 薪資被灌水誰要
11/19 14:23, 99F
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11/19 20:15, , 100F
不相信鵜鶘肯換
11/19 20:15, 100F
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11/19 22:25, , 101F
認為雙贏的根本自我感覺良好，比照一下2人打球內容就
11/19 22:25, 101F
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11/19 22:26, , 102F
知道了，阿喜防守哪有推文中說的那麼好，而且每次看
11/19 22:26, 102F
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11/19 22:27, , 103F
他奶油就覺得莫名其妙，鵜鶘丟RA，外圍的火力要靠誰
11/19 22:27, 103F
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11/20 02:07, , 104F
鵜鶘虧..Ryan Anderson 很好用好嗎
11/20 02:07, 104F
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11/20 02:08, , 105F
而且去年都放走肉配汁弟了 不需要再補苦力內線
11/20 02:08, 105F
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