Re: [外電] Wang-o-Rama: All Hail the King?

看板CMWang (王建民 - 大樹哥)作者weitingyeh (地震過大狗都出來散步了)時間18年前 (2007/09/05 17:01)推噓18(18推 0噓 15→)

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※ 引述《findme ()》之銘言： : 說說我的看法好了 : http://eastwindupchronicle.com/?p=45 : Wang Chien-Ming is the king of Taiwan. : Wang, whose name literally means ‘king’ in Chinese, is Taiwan’s most : revered and loved celebrity. The New York Yankees’ #1 starter is the first : Taiwanese celebrity to achieve widespread international recognition (with the : possible exception of filmmaker Ang Li, Madame Chiang Kai Shek and : actress/Penthouse centerfold Hsu Chi), and a source of national pride every : time he takes the hill for the storied New York Yankees : And what’s not to love about a player that has emerged as the ace of the : world’s most successful baseball franchise, finished second in the AL Cy : Young voting to Johan Santana in 2006, starts charities to benefit : underprivileged kids in his free time, and has even had the courage to : boycott the bloodthirsty and reckless Taiwanese media since moving to New : York? : Owing to his unusually composed demeanor, seemingly incorruptible personality : on an island notorious for political corruption, and celebrity cache (that : gives Taiwan the rare occasion to stick it China as the mainland siphons off : its jobs and challenges its statehood), Wang takes center stage on a daily : basis on the TV and in the papers. As a result, without a costly mlb.com : package, baseball fans on the island have to get used to the following order : of priorities: Wang Chien Ming first, The Yankees second, and baseball third. : Wang fever in Taiwan can reach absurd levels. ESPN in Taiwan re-runs every : game he pitches in 4 or 5 times in a week, while remaining Yankee games : broadcast two to three times a day while the vast majority of MLB games go : untelevised. For fans on the island interested in the bigger picture of the : game, pennant races, or teams outside of the AL East, it can get vexing : watching the Taiwanese media lavish more attention on a single start from : Wang (or Wang having a conversation with Ron Guidry in the dugout) than it : does on, say, Barry Bonds breaking the all-time home run record. Save for the : occasional Red Sox game featuring Matsuzaka, or a even rarer Dodgers game : where Hong Chih Kuo invariably gets lit up, Yankees games are by and large : the only exposure fans get to MLB. : One can well imagine the stunned silence, general confusion, and silent : facial contortions of protest (as well as nasty emails) I get from Taiwanese : baseball fans when I make the following outrageous claims: Wang at this stage : of his career makes a very good #2 pitcher for a successful rotation but has : not yet developed the qualities of a true staff ace, the jury is still out on : his long term value, and the oft-cheerleading media and fans have jumped the : gun a bit by placing Wang in the top tier of starting pitchers in MLB. I also : get jeers when I suggest that fans in Taiwan, due 24/7 exposure in the media, : conflate Wang’s historical and cultural importance with his actual talents : on the field. Wang’s demeanor, high winning percentage, and league-best : sinker certainly give him the potential to be mentioned in the same breath : with Webb, Sabathia, and Johan, but he’s not there. Not y : Naysayer! Cynic! Playa Hater! (being pelted with stinky tofu) : First off, a fair assessment of Wang’s ability has to point to stats beyond : his W-L record. Wang’s win totals are highly inflated due to an inordinate : amount of run support—nearly 7 runs per game (6.8)—and excellent defensive : support (The Yankee defense behind Wang, didn’t allow an unearned run in 47 : consecutive innings, the longest such streak for a Yankee pitcher since the : Elias Sports Bureau began tracking the stat in 1913). Every time Wang takes : the hill the Yanks spot him 7 runs and never make any errors. This is a : recipe for putting up a lot of wins regardless of who is on the mound : Or, to quote a Seattle Mariners scout in Taiwan who tried to sign Wang before : he ended up on the Yankees, “take Wang off the Yankees and put him on a : weak-hitting team, and he’s a .500 pitcher”. : Wang has other attributes that suggest that some of the fawning over his : performance thus far might not be warranted yet. This year, left-handed : hitters are hitting .283 against him. Since the All-Star break this year, : Wang the king has put up a respectable 7-2 record, but has an average E.R.A. : (4.50) and hitters are opposing hitters are hitting .296. Due to his high : ground ball percentage, a lot of these runs get cancelled out in double : plays, but putting that many runners on base could be a recipe for trouble : come playoff time. : : In fact, Wang’s stats this year are eerily similar to those put up by Greg : Maddux at age 41, whom most statisticians and fans would describe as having a : decent but unspectacular season in the twilight of his career. Maddux is : regarded as the Padres #3 starter, certainly not their ace at this point. : While it might not be the only factor in the equation, the extra 2 runs per : game Wang receives in run support from the Bronx Bomber offense surely plays : a big part in the 6 game difference in the win column: : Wang 166.1IP, 16 wins, 6 losses, 3.79 ERA, 86 K’s, 45BB’s, 1.27 WHIP : Maddux 168.2IP, 10 wins, 9 losses, 3.79 ERA, 89 K’s, 21BB’s, 1.20 WHIP : That’s not to say Wang doesn’t have the capability to be a true ace, in : fact, he’s nearly there. With the league’s best sinker that Yankees : pitching coach Ron Guidry compares to trying to hit a shot put, and a 96 MPH : heater, there’s no denying the talent is in place. He’s young, he’s : already won a ton of games, and has room to grow. But he’s not all the way : there yet, and often times this gets lost in the shuffle as the Taiwanese : media clamors to put up yet another full-page spread singing his pra : __________________ : More important than these statistical comparisons, the Taiwanese media, : notorious for fabricating news stories and desperate to sensationalize : anything they can in order to gain ratings–more than the unassuming Wang : himself– can be blamed for the premature overhyping of the man of the hour. : In Wang you have a highly marketable, good looking, reputable celebrity that’ : s tailor made to sell papers and merchandise. : But in the end, Taiwanese baseball fans, who might care more about the game : itself with exposure to different teams, lose out in the end due to the : disproportionate amount of airtime lavished upon Wang at this early stage in : his career. They almost never get to see NL teams. They don’t get to see : Pujols, Santana, Hanley, or even Bonds. This deprives them of the joy of : seeing all the game’s stars, the thrill of pennant races, the ability to : view baseball from a more objective perspective, and the perspective to see : Wang within the greater overall context of the game. : Because of Wang’s success in pinstripes, Taiwanese fans have almost without : exception embraced the Yankees as their favorite team. From an overall : standpoint, if what matters to Taiwanese fans is that Wang has put Taiwan on : the map and given them something to cheer for after a long day at the : factory, that’s great. 1.李安同意但拿蔣宋美齡和舒淇出來比喻，就明白此blog作者根本不了解確實的台灣文化，在台灣有誰平常會討論這兩個名字的，說不定作者隨便google了一下，讀了幾本過時的書，找幾個名字就舉例了。 2.台灣的政治腐敗，你知，我知，全部鄉民也知道。但是輪不到你來評論，尤其在一篇討論體育運動的文章當中。當然你的blog標題既然有討論政治，要就發表個所以然的文章，而不是在這篇裡面嘴炮一兩句。 3.台灣不是美國，幹麻那麼關心MLB，作者根本沒想過在王之前，MLB在台灣到底有多少人看。ESPN是公益單位麼? 你上班的公司總要平衡收益，做出對公司有利的決定吧。來轉播紅人對海盜的比賽在台灣是會有多少人看呢? 自己國家轉播自己國家球員的比賽本來就很平常的事情，日本不是也是這樣麼? 你blog不是說討論西太平洋島國的文化麼? 怎麼不去評論一下日本? 東方的文化你真的了解麼?再來假如你人在紐約州，想看場教士對洛磯的比賽，你知道有多難麼? 那我可以評論你說:"你一點都不關心peavy的近況麼?" 4.台灣媒體過份報導和神話的事情，這大家也都知道，我也同意。但是作者似乎不完全了解台灣的文化。畢竟媒體所報導的新聞，不是只有我們這種每天關心的人在看，或許我也覺得太自誇太過頭了，但是在台灣，許多民國4.50年代出生的台灣人，大多數是我們的長輩，棒球從小看到大。現在每天辛苦工作回家後，有好的比賽看，又有小王可以看，回家之後難得有點事做，反正他們不關心MLB，而這些誇大的新聞，他們看了滿足高興，媒體反而幫了大忙。你做兒子女兒的忍心去戳破這些麼? 5.小王現階段的比賽成績是ace還是ass，什麼對左打的，什麼whip的，好壞利弊大家都討論到爛掉了，作者寫出來是撐版面還是有心吐嘈我就不予置評。 6.From an overall : standpoint, if what matters to Taiwanese fans is that Wang has put Taiwan on : the map and given them something to cheer for after a long day at the : factory, that’s great. 這段我怎麼看都像一個大美國主義的人在酸台灣，雖然台灣許多人政黨傾向不同，不過我想都是愛這塊土地的，你不喜歡的話，那麼愛講，我也不歡迎你來請滾出去。 7.最後我一直認為台灣是棒球第一的國家，只是政府，聯盟和球團沒有好好經營和支持而已。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 59.105.30.206

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