Prospectus Q&A: Orlando Hudson
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by David Laurila
Orlando Hudson has been the Arizona Diamondbacks' second baseman for the past
three seasons; prior to that, he manned the Toronto keystone for four years,
where he picked up his first of three Gold Gloves. In addition to his excellent
fielding, he's a solid offensive presence in the lineup as well, and is hitting
.295/.354/.462 with a .276 EqA this season. David spoke to Hudson about the
Negro Leagues, about the population of blacks in baseball both on the field and
in the stands, and about being a role model for the black community.
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David Laurila: I understand that you’ve had an opportunity to meet Willie Mays
. Is it intimidating to talk to a baseball legend like Mays?
Orlando Hudson: Yes it was, very much so. He’s a guy who has done so much for
not just baseball, but for blacks, too. He’s like another Jackie Robinson,
both a tremendous man and an unbelievable player. Words can’t even describe
what he did on the field, and they can barely describe what he did off the
field.
DL: Have you ever imagined what it would have been like to play in the Negro
Leagues?
OH: Definitely. It would have been fun. You’d see all these beautiful black
women sitting at the games in their nice dresses; you’d see all the brothers
in their best three-piece suits. It was an event then; now it’s just "we’re
going to the game." Back in the days of the Negro Leagues, even back when the
white men were playing this game alone, you’d see everyone with their cigars
and nice suits, and the women with their hats and dresses; now people come to
the game with their shorts and flip-flops on. I could only imagine how it was
back then. And the games were packed; every game was packed, both the Negro
games and the caucasian games. Now we’re trying to get baseball back like it
was.
DL: Gerald Earley, who teaches black culture at American University, has said
that "black Americans don’t play baseball because they don’t want to.
Baseball has little hold on the black American imagination." What are your
thoughts on that?
OH: Definitely. And I’m only repeating--this isn’t coming out of my mouth--
what a great friend of mine, Gary Sheffield, said: "As a black man playing
Major League baseball, you have to be a superstar to play in this game." How
many black bench players do you know? Can you name me one, Dave? Guys who
aren’t playing every day? You see kids in other sports on TV today. You see
LeBron James, a great individual, on TV; you see LaDanian Tomlinson on TV, a
great running back who is a great kid and does all the same things I do, like
fish and hunt; you see Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant on TV. But as big as Derek
Jeter is, you rarely see him on nationwide TV. We’re not broadcasting our
black players on TV. Jimmy Rollins, MVP: no commercials. Ryan Howard, MVP: no
commercials. Gary Sheffield, future Hall of Famer: no commercials. So how are
black kids supposed to want to be like us when we’re not broadcast on TV like
the NFL football players are? I’ve heard young black kids say it: "You’re one
of the few who have made it, but baseball is a white man’s game." And I tell
them all the time that there are absolutely so many black kids who could play
this game. You look at college baseball and you might see one black person
every fourth team. You see Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, and out
of those four teams you might see one; Fresno State, UCLA, Cal-Berkeley, and
Stanford--same thing. So you might see two guys out of eight teams, and that’s
with 25 on the roster of each team. So the kids look at the NBA, and they look
at the NFL, which are predominantly black. You go to NBA games and you hear
hip-hop music being played. You go to NFL games and you hear hip-hop music
being played. You come to a Major League Baseball game and you hear the great
Willie Nelson and some of his songs. So they’re not relating themselves with
baseball.
DL: Do you see that as something that can change?
OH: We’re hoping so, but we don’t think it will change. We want to get more
blacks in, and we have conversations with Spike Lee, because we know Spike Lee
is a big baseball fan. Denzel Washington is a big baseball fan. We need people
like that who can help us get the black communities around America to enjoy
baseball more.
DL: Sport psychologist Harry Edwards has said that sports have a negative
impact on African-American culture. Do you buy into that idea?
OH: You know what--we have somewhat put ourselves in that predicament, but if
you think about it, blacks pretty much get pushed to the side of things anyway.
That started back before either of us was born, or even before our grandparents
were born. Blacks were already being pushed to the side. Athletically, if you
look at it, we as blacks on the field look at the stands, and they’re
predominantly white. If you go to a college football game to watch Florida
State, the starting offense and defense are black; you look at the stadium and
it’s white. Go to Miami and everybody is black, but if you go to the stadium,
it’s white. We bring excitement to the stadium--we all know we have God-given
talent to play sports; we do things. We have Vijay Singh in golf, who is
another black man playing a white man’s game and doing his thing. There are
the Williams sisters in tennis. Whatever we do, it seems like we dominate
everything we play, but we pretty much get pushed aside even though we bring
excitement to the park.
DL: There have been times this season when the Detroit Tigers have put a team
on the field that included no white players; they were all African-American or
Latin American.
OH: Yes, but who was in the stadium watching them? I’ve played in Detroit a
lot, and there can be nine black players on the field, but mostly what you see
in the stadium is white. You might see a few blacks, yes, but it’s mostly
whites watching us do the things that bring excitement. Look at the Boston
Celtics. There’s Ray Allen, who’s a friend of mine, Kevin Garnett, and Paul
Pierce--three African-Americans--and they pack the house with Caucasian people.
DL: Basketball is obviously a "blacker" sport than baseball. Would having more
black players on the field increase the number of black fans in baseball?
OH: I think it would increase. Don’t get me wrong, we have done some things to
stay on TV a lot. We have quite a few guys with DUIs, bar fights, and this and
that, but just because one brother messes up doesn’t make the rest of the 100
brothers the same person--know what I’m saying? There have been a lot of white
folks who have messed up, and they’ve gotten plenty of opportunities. They
don’t get blown up on ESPN; they don’t get blown up on CNN. Take for example,
Don Imus; he’s messed up twice already on a radio show. If that had been
Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, it would have been no more of either of those two
, and you know it just as well as I know it.
DL: You’re saying that there is a double standard?
OH: You know it; I don’t have to say it.
DL: You once said the following in an interview with USA Today: "The world
would be a better place if JFK, Martin Luther King, and Malcolm X were living."
Can you elaborate on that?
OH: JFK was a man of equal opportunity. He wasn’t one of those guys who just
wanted to make sure that the white folks stayed richer and that they kept the
black folks to the side. He walked the streets of Washington, DC, shaking
people’s hands, and he gave a lot of blacks opportunities and looked out for
blacks. I’m a big fan of history, so I love that. JFK was just a tremendous
man of character with the way that he carried himself in the White House.
That’s definitely a big position, because if you’re in the White House
you’re leading this country. And he carried himself in that manner. Then you
have guys like Malcolm X, who was pretty much to himself early, with, "I want
my people, as black African-Americans, to dominate everything. We should do
this; we should push the whites out because they pushed us out for so many
years, and over the course of years have become stronger and stronger." He
talked to the honorable Elijah Mohammed, who had so much love and respect for
JFK during that time, and Martin Luther King was trying to change his ways,
saying that this is what makes you become a bigger man and a better person,
making him think, "OK, let me get myself together so I can start associating
with white men also, to see if we can stay together." But before that time came
, he was assassinated because he was becoming a very powerful brother.
But we all knew that the great Martin Luther King always said, from day one,
that he wanted blacks and whites to one day hold hands and walk the mountains
and the hills of Tennessee, and walk the streets of Alabama. He wanted all that
mess in the South, the racism that still goes on--someday we’ll be dead and
gone and racism will still be here as bad as it was--but he wanted us all to
become as one where we don’t look at color and race. That’s the same way JFK
was, he didn’t look at color and race. In the early part of Malcolm X’s
career, he looked at race; he didn’t want to have anything to do with white
folks; that’s the way he was. But he kind of knew that the day would come
where times would get better, where black and white could sit in the restaurant
together, where black and white could walk together, like it is now where they
can be dating and getting married. But he was assassinated before that time. As
a matter of fact, all three were assassinated before that time. So there were
definitely some big things behind those true, tremendous, unbelievable, great
leaders of this country who had to leave before their time because of maybe
getting too big, because of too many people following them because of the way
they looked at the world and wanted things to be. It was a shame, because the
world would have become a better place had those three men not gotten
assassinated.
DL: Any final thoughts?
OH: I just wish that we could get more black players into baseball, because we
can absolutely play the game. Our forefathers loved baseball, and we’ve gotten
away from it a little bit. I wish we could get more kids get into the colleges
and doing their thing. We see a lot of black kids go into the NBA draft, and
I’d like to see more black kids go into the MLB draft. I wish more black kids
would stay in school. It’s kind of hard to stay out of the drug game and off
the streets and away from the gangs, but it’s something positive to want to
get more out of life than trying to make easy and fast money. It’s better to
make it the right way and be a role model, especially to your kids and to your
family and to your church members.
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