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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1GatJeDT ] 作者: djviva (淡定~ 穩中求勝) 看板: NBA 標題: [外絮] Fans in Brooklyn Have New Shoulder to 時間: Fri Nov 2 15:23:17 2012 http://tinyurl.com/cgjes9b from NY Times (文章太長所以簡略翻譯) Fans in Brooklyn Have New Shoulder to Cry On 紐約球迷新選擇～ In the best of times, the Knicks made Nelson Ortiz weep. It happened in 1994, when Pat Riley’s squad buckled in Game 7 of the Finals and lost the championship to the Houston Rockets. 1994尼克總冠軍賽大戰七場可惜敗給了火箭 It happened again in 1999, when the eighth-seeded Knicks returned to the Finals, in fairy-tale fashion, only to get crushed by the San Antonio Spurs. 1999尼克老八傳奇打入總冠軍賽，但敗給了馬刺 “I cried in 1999,” said Ortiz, 26, a devout Knicks fan since childhood. “I cried in 1994.” 自小就是尼克迷的Ortiz說這兩場我都哭了～ These were bittersweet tears, borne of hope. They are warm memories compared with the years of emotional torment that followed. 但這些眼淚苦中帶甜，是參雜過希望的溫暖回憶，不像以下.... The losing. The lawsuits. The humiliation. The blown draft picks. The foolish trades. The false promise of Isiah Thomas. The petulance of Stephon Marbury. The feckless leadership of James Dolan. The callous dismissal of Jeremy Lin. 一直輸球，訴訟，羞辱，選秀失敗，愚蠢至極的交易，大總管無信的承諾，亂七八糟的天下第一控馬布瑞，腦殘老闆Dolan，對林書豪無情無義 The madness. The mayhem. 抓狂啊！不爽啊！！ “A debacle,” Ortiz said. 忠貞球迷Ortiz表示◢▆▅▄▃崩╰(〒皿〒)╯潰▃▄▅▇◣ Ortiz kept faith through it all, his blue-and-orange cap pulled tight, waiting for the Knicks to honor his devotion. He is waiting no longer. 球迷表示：不離不棄，被當北七，老子閃啦！ When the Nets have their delayed opening of the season on Saturday night, Ortiz will be draped in black and white — a proud, newly converted fan of the transplanted Brooklyn team. 走！換去當籃網球迷！ “I was rubbed the wrong way for so long,” said Ortiz, who lives in Bay Ridge, “that I guess I was kind of looking for an out.” A new era is upon us. The Nets are a New York team now, after 35 years in New Jersey. Their arrival has spawned a new breed of fan: the Knicks-to-Nets defector. They are the disillusioned, the angry, the hopeful. And their numbers appear to be growing, based on social media and anecdotal accounts. 籃網變成了紐約球隊，引起了一股尼克迷出走改當籃網迷的風潮 Find a fan who switched teams, and he will tell you about three others who have done the same: a brother, a girlfriend, a co-worker. Many are Brooklyn natives who are thrilled to root for a Brooklyn team. But the defectors say they were driven away, by the same grievances that Knicks fans have been reciting for years. “I don’t want to take this parallel too far, but it was like an abusive relationship,” said James Graham, a Prospect Heights resident who renounced his Knicks fandom. “I got out.” There is no Gallup Poll for team allegiance, so the trend is hard to quantify. Nets officials say they are not keeping track. But this much is known: The Nets have sold nearly 11,000 full-season tickets, triple the number from last season. Most are coming from Brooklyn (37 percent), Manhattan (23 percent) and Nassau County (6 percent). It is doubtful they all became basketball fans overnight, or were closet Nets fans all along. It is more likely that a great number are, in fact, Knicks apostates, who are making Mikhail Prokhorov, the Nets’ brash owner, look positively prophetic for declaring in 2010, “We’re going to turn Knick fans into Net fans.” Of course, Prokhorov had lots of help, mostly from the Knicks. Few teams in the last decade have tortured their fan base as relentlessly, with a toxic brew of bad basketball, bad characters and bad karma. The Knicks have not won a playoff series since 2000. They have had a losing record in 9 of the last 11 seasons, compiling a record of 357-529. They have been sued for sexual harassment and picketed by fans. Last season, a dispute between Madison Square Garden and Time-Warner Cable left thousands of viewers without Knicks games. That came just months after the team raised ticket prices by an average of 40 percent. Dolan, the Garden chairman, might be the most reviled figure in New York sports. “The only thing that would make me go back is if they sold the team,” said Brian Dowling, a 35-year-old defector who lives in Long Island. “I don’t think it will happen anytime soon.” Dowling added, “At a certain point, I just asked myself: Is this worth it?” Knicks fans have been asking this existential question for years, to no productive end. Who else could they root for? The Chicago Bulls? Impossible. The Boston Celtics? Unconscionable. The team in New Jersey? Meh. But, reborn in Brooklyn, the Nets now exude cool. They have the sleek black uniforms, the imprimatur of Jay-Z and the billion-dollar arena. With an All-Star backcourt and a promising core, the Nets present a worthy alternative to fans across the region, but especially to the 2.6 million people who call Brooklyn home. “It’s a unique phenomenon, and it’s a unique opportunity,” said Graham, 41, who lives five blocks from Barclays Center. Graham grew up on that same street, a devout Knicks fan. He idolized Patrick Ewing, agonized over Bernard King and got his heart broken by Michael Jordan. He was at the Garden on May 7, 1995 — the day that Indiana’s Reggie Miller scored 8 points in 9 seconds to beat the Knicks in a playoff game. “I remember my coat coming off, and my coat going back on,” Graham said with a rueful laugh. Back then, it was the Bulls and the Pacers who caused Knicks fans the most anguish. Now it is usually the Knicks franchise itself. In a single sentence, Graham referred to the team as “disheartening,” “ illogical” and “insensitive,” directing most of his anger at Dolan. “I didn’t make the switch lightly,” Graham said. “I was a loyal fan for a long, long time. And that loyalty, now that it’s been pried away with a crowbar, now it’s attached to a new team.” The defectors all describe a similar evolution. They were depressed by the Thomas-Marbury era. They were heartened by the 2008 arrival of Donnie Walsh and Mike D’Antoni — as the new team president and coach — then distressed to see both men run off. They embraced Amar’e Stoudemire as the foundation of a promising new lineup in 2010. They cringed when that lineup was torn up in a hasty trade for Carmelo Anthony. 球迷們在Thomas跟馬布瑞時期消沉，08年Donnie任總裁跟丹東尼來當總教練時重燃希望，接著希望破滅；2010啊罵來紐約時超爽，然後在尼克匆忙扯散陣容只為了換來大茂黑瓜時畏縮狐疑 If there was a catalyzing event in this movement, it came July 17. That was the day the Knicks chose to let Lin — their inspiring, crowd-pleasing young point guard from Harvard — leave for Houston, rather than match a three-year, $25 million contract. To many fans, it was the ultimate slap in the face. Lin had provided more thrills and joy in a two-week span than any Knicks player had in the last 10 years. He was more popular than Stoudemire, more beloved than Anthony. 若說什麼是壓垮尼克球迷們對尼克信心的最後一根稻草，那就是今年7/17，尼克居然選擇了讓紐約球迷們熱愛的林書豪被火箭追走，而不去匹配2500萬美金的合約！　這舉動在許多球迷臉上熱辣辣的呼了一下巴掌，林來瘋的那兩周內，林書豪給了任何尼克球員這十年來都沒享受過的爽感跟看球的樂趣～　　林書豪，比啊罵更受球迷歡迎，比大茂黑瓜還爽口開胃啊！！ In the days that followed, Twitter timelines and fan forums were filled with wails of betrayal and outrage, and threats to abandon the team. Many followed through. Many swallowed their rage, maintaining their Knicks allegiance in spite of themselves. “Every rational part of my brain wants to be a Nets fan,” said Brian Koppelman, a Knicks season-ticket holder since 1989. 1989以來就一直有買尼克季票的布萊恩表示：每一個理性的思考都讓我覺得該去當籃網迷 When the Knicks let Lin walk, Koppelman swore he was done. He posted about it on Twitter and wrote an essay for Grantland.com. Then he balked. “What makes it so difficult with a sports team is memory and connection, and the little emotional resonances that you have and you carry with you,” said Koppelman, 46. For longtime Knicks fans, the franchise is still synonymous with Ewing and King, Walt Frazier and Earl Monroe, Bill Bradley and Red Holzman. “My very first memory I have when I was 4 years old is me and my dad at the Garden watching the Knicks,” Koppelman said. “When I close my eyes and think of the Knicks, I still see Earl Monroe.” So while Koppelman says that the current Knicks’ ownership “deserves to be abandoned” and “deserves to be pilloried,” it is history that keeps him coming back. This is the Knicks’ eternal advantage, and it is the reason team officials have projected unwavering ambivalence — even arrogance — about the Nets’ encroachment on their territory. The Knicks have the legendary names, the storied arena, the two championship banners hanging in the rafters. But the Knicks have been living off the fumes of that legacy for decades now. The last banner was hung in 1973. The charm is fading. The Knicks still have Woody Allen and Spike Lee (who is staying faithful despite his Brooklyn roots) in their corner. But other celebrities have joined the defector movement. The actress Ellen Pompeo, who had been a semiregular at Knicks games, now has Nets season tickets. The filmmaker Edward Burns has also embraced the Nets (but says he still supports the Knicks, too). Other notable Nets supporters include the rappers Fabolous and Busta Rhymes, the R&B singer Ne-Yo, the actress Rosie Perez, the actor Michael K. Williams and the pop star Justin Bieber, who wore a “Hello Brooklyn” Nets shirt on the Jimmy Fallon show. Then there is Ethan Hawke, who in an interview with Spike TV said he felt “ completely betrayed and abandoned by the way the Knicks management handled Jeremy Lin.” Hawke said the Knicks were “in my DNA,” but that he planned to take his son to Nets games this season and would re-evaluate his loyalties. For now, the Knicks still have a sizable edge in fan support, including a two-to-one advantage in Brooklyn, according to Dan Migala, a partner at Property Consulting Group, a Chicago-based sports marketing firm. About 24 percent of Brooklyn residents either watched, attended or listened to a Knicks game last season, said Migala, citing data provided by Scarborough Sports Marketing. By comparison, 12 percent of Brooklyn residents watched, attended or listened to a Nets game, a difference of about 250,000 people. But those figures were based on a Nets team based in New Jersey, not one playing with “Brooklyn” across the chest. To those who live in the borough, that makes all the difference. “Wherever I go in the world, I don’t say I’m from New York,” Ortiz said. “I say I’m from Brooklyn, and people understand that.” Though Thursday’s meeting between the two teams was delayed in the wake of this week’s storm, the rivalry will eventually be settled on the court. When the moment comes, Knicks fans are vowing to take over Barclays Center, just as they did for years in New Jersey. “I hope not,” said Ortiz. “But if they do, I hope they leave crying.” It wouldn’t be the first time. Dolan：跪求治腦殘的良藥！　(NSG股價長紅不止～) -- 清晨霧一般的思念, 清新 double, 美麗 double, 捉摸不定 double... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 60.250.135.187 ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: djviva (60.250.135.187), 時間: 11/02/2012 15:23:56

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