[閒聊] Donte Greene劇場

看板Kings (沙加緬度 國王)作者時間15年前 (2010/11/11 15:25), 編輯推噓5(507)
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http://hardcourtmayhem.com/kings/?p=1557 本文重點在最後,請End!不然會哭! The Beginning Coming into training camp, the Kings had a handful of player position battles/questions that needed to be answered. By far, the hottest topic was who would be the starting small forward when the season kicked off. I didn’ t always phrase the question the same way, but I got the rep around camp as the guy who was always asking the coach about who the starter would be. I even had a member of the Kings media relations team, ask me one day why I was so interested in who was going to start, even though training camp was only a couple of weeks in. I had a very simple answer for him. It’s what sells. 小前鋒位置已經是近來的熱門話題,以下是回憶錄、推測的答案。 Team Omri anyone? The battle for the starting small forward spot took on a Twilight-esque – Team Donté versus Team Omri debate amongst the Sacramento faithful. Kings fans begged for news on two things- the small forward competition and video of Tyreke Evans shooting jump shot. So everyday I would ask, in one of a million different ways, who was going to start, and everyday, Coach Westphal refused to outright answer, but he would feed us crumbs of information to keep the interest alive. 綠卡大戰一直是存在的事情,我每天也都會詢問教練:今天會是誰勝出。但Westphal 從未正面回答,他總是只透露一些些的資訊來引起我們的興趣。 The Prerequisite Little by little, Coach Westphal used me and the other members of the media to filter a message out to the public and quite possibly back to his players. If one of these players didn’t receive the internal memo, Coach made sure to repeat the message to a face full of voice recorders and digital video cameras: Westphal有時會把我們當成他跟球員間的傳聲筒。 “The small forward battle is wide open- I talked to the team about it today. We need the small forward to defend the best athletes in the world. It might be LeBron James one night, Kevin Durant the next night, Kobe the next night, Genobili the next night. They’ve got to be up for that challenge. That’s the number one thing, and the co-number one thing is that they need to be able to hit an open shot. We are looking for somebody that can answer that call in those areas. We don’t need somebody who is a #1 primary offensive option whether in reality or in their own mind. We need somebody who’s going to get the ball inside, knock down open shots and be a good catalyst for the team. We’ll see who emerges.” 「小前鋒還沒決定,要的就來搶。」 The message was clear: shoot + defend = starting position. We need not speculate on who the Coach was speaking of with the, “We don’t need somebody who is a #1 primary offensive option whether in reality or in their own mind” comment. That’s not what we do here at The Purple Panjandrum. 看來很簡單,有外線加防守,你就能拿到這個位置。 The Battle When the Kings came out for their Open Practice, the starters were Marcus Landry and Donté Greene. Really? Omri can’t even get a sniff when there are two starting spots available? Needless to say, the media, Team Omri fans and probably even Casspi himself were left confused, possibly even dumbfounded. 接下來戰爭就開打了。剛開始第一名是Marcus Landry,第二名是Donte Greene。 Marcus Landry received a couple more starts in pre-season games one and two and then veteran Antoine Wright took a turn. In game four of the pre-season, Donté Greene got the call and logic would seem to dictate that with three games left, Casspi would at least get one chance to start since he was one of the players in the competition. After the Kings and Warriors pre-season game in Sacramento on October 13, I asked the coach about whether or not Omri Casspi would get a shot to start one of the remaining three pre-season games and this is what he had to say: Marcus在兩場先發之後就被急凍,Antoine Wright上任。接著Donte Greene成了新的 人選。Casspi在這場比賽中似乎從未領先過,七場比賽裡他從不是先發的人選。 “I like Casspi off the bench, I’ve said that a lot. I think he gives us a really nice lift that way. I’m not ready to answer your question completely but I do like him off the bench.” 「我喜歡板凳卡,我說很多次了。」 The Victor This quote made the rounds amongst local and national media outlets, but there was a misconception about this statement. While it was rightfully believed that Donté Greene had won the starting small forward position for the first game of the season, more importantly, Omri Casspi had quietly won a more significant role in Coach Westphal’s book, the role of primary scoring option off the bench. On October 14th, Westphal confirmed the starters for opening night: 在訓練營的最後,Greene成了開幕戰的先發小前鋒。 “If we’re healthy, we’ll start with Beno, and Cisco and Donté and Carl and DeMarcus the first game. And then when Tyreke comes back, he’ll start in place of Cisco.” 「我們的先發是Udrih、Garcia、Greene、Landry、DMC,Tyreke回來的話,他會取代 Garcia的位置。」 Team Donté fans cheered and Team Omri fans were faced with the feeling that not only had their guy lost, but he never really got his chance to shine. 卡粉應該在這一刻很失落。綠粉們應該在這一刻很開心。 The Unanswered Questions Team Casspi fans had other gripes as well. Donté Greene came into training camp weighing 260-pounds which is approximately 25 to 30 pounds heavier than his previous playing weight. Greene admitted that some of the weight gain was the unhealthy kind, but he refused to acknowledge that this was an issue or that he was wrong to gain the weight: 其實相較於一直努力的Casspi。Greene在進入訓練營前有過胖問題。他比去年多了25 到30磅。他自已也承認有些是胖不是肌肉,不過他認為增重沒什麼不好。 Yeah, you can kind of be confused, especially when, you know, the weight, it wasn’t really a bad thing. But the Coach is the head coach and I’m a worker, so if the weight had to come off, it had to come off and I’m ready now. Greene stands between 6′-10〃 and 6′-11〃 tall, so his frame could easily handle the weight if he were to play in the post, but as a wing defender who is supposed to guard elite athletes night in and night out, there was no reason for Greene to add the bulk. Greene spent the better part of the first three weeks of training camp doing massive amounts of cardio work to get back in shape, while Omri Casspi, Francisco Garcia and Luther Head were working on skills like improving their three point accuracy. At last check, Donté was down to an estimated 240-pounds, still 5 to 10 pounds heavier than his previous playing weight. When asked about the weight gain, Greene told us here at The Purple Panjandrum: 他的身高是六呎十或六呎十一,所以他如果要打低位的話,的確是應該增重。不過角 色定位成鋒衛防守者增重是在搞笑嗎?Greene花了三週搞定他的體重問題。而Casspi這時 跟Garcia、Head狂練三分。最後Greene減到了240磅,還是比上季重了五到十磅。 “I wasn’t in the greatest shape. I wasn’t in as good a shape as I was in last year. I know last season, I came into camp in great shape.” 「我還沒有到最好的狀態。」 Obviously, the weight issue was not the end all for Coach Westphal. Greene beat out two other quality players in Antoine Wright and Marcus Landry (who ended up not making the team) to earn the starting position. 很明顯的,體重不是問題所在,Greene打敗了另外兩位先發競爭者Wright、Landry, 成功拿下先發。 The Donté Greene experiment lasted one game. 不過這個事情只持續了一場。 The Change It’s not that Greene did anything that should be considered wrong in that one start, but he didn’t do anything to distinguish himself either. One game is too small of a sample for anyone so there must be something more at play here. 如果Greene做錯了什麼,你也不應在一場就決定改變所有事情。 In the second game of the season, Omri Casspi was named the starter for the Sacramento Kings and has continued as the starter since. In a perplexing turn of events, Donté Greene has found himself not only out of the starting line-up but by game number three, out of the rotation completely, playing a total of 5.9 seconds in the last four games. 到了第二場比賽,Casspi就變成了新的先發。Greene失去的不只是先發位置,他連輪 替中的位置都沒了。前四場只上了五點九秒(今天上了三分零四秒)。 In the dog eat dog world of the NBA, this is about as tough as it gets. As confused and befuddled as the Team Omri folks were a week earlier, Team Donté fans must be equally confused now, but only because they weren’t paying attention. 這是個競爭的聯盟,不到一個星期,卡粉們就開心了起來,而困惑的人換成了綠粉。 The Reasoning Let me break down the events that have led to where we are today. 以下是我的簡短分析,為什麼事情會變成這個樣子呢? Donté Greene has tremendous size and loads of potential. Unfortunately, he came into camp completely out of shape when he was given the biggest opportunity of his young career. Add to this that Greene missed extremely valuable time working himself back into shape while Omri Casspi and others were busy fine tuning their game and you begin to realize just how big of a mistake this was. Greene首先是出了體重包,這讓Greene在訓練營裡和新隊友磨的時間、加強投射的時 間大為縮短。這是所有問題的起點。 So why after just one game? There is an easy answer and a few more complex ones as well. 而一場先發又是怎樣呢? First, Tyreke Evans was suspended for the first game of the season and Samuel Dalembert, the Kings starting center, missed the game due to injury. This meant that there was more than 60 minutes of play available for someone to take. 首先TE的禁賽跟Dalembert的缺席,讓國王開幕戰空出了六十分鐘左右的時間。 Francisco Garcia. Garcia started at the shooting guard position in place of Beno Udrih, who was starting at the point guard position for Tyreke Evans. Francisco would normally play both the shooting guard and the small forward position, so his addition to the starting line-up removed a valuable bench contributor. Garcia當天的表現很火燙,他又是鋒衛雙挑的球員。在被移到替補之後,教練還是願 意給他多點時間。 The guy who filled Francisco Garcia’s minutes off the bench was veteran Luther Head. Luther used his 20 minutes of play to score 14 points, grab three rebounds and dish out three assists. 當天另一位表現良好的球員是Head。他在二十分鐘裡有十四分、三籃板、三助攻。 Garcia and Head combined for 36 points, six rebounds and seven assists, giving Coach Westphal a sneak peak of the fire power he just might be able to get off the bench. With this type of potential, the decision to move Omri Casspi into the starting role became a lot easier. Garcia與Head的演出讓教練決定對Casspi做出調整。若這兩位火力足夠,Casspi不必 當成板凳上的搶分手來用。 Here are Westphal’s post-game comments after the second game of the year against New Jersey, in which Casspi started: “I like his energy off the bench and his ability to shoot the ball for us off the bench, but with Luther playing better and with Cisco, with us learning Luther’s game and thinking he can give us some punch off the bench, I don’t think that it’s as important to bring Omri off. He’s been doing a good job defensively and trying to do what we want him to do so I thought it was a better fit now that we have our whole team back to go that way.” 「我很喜歡板凳。」 Although Casspi missed all five of his three point shots in his first game as a starter, the mere fact that he took five helped stretch the defense. In start number two, Casspi showed why Coach Westphal penned him into the starting line-up. The second year forward scored twenty points on 5 of 6 three point shooting. Defensively, Casspi has been all over the court. Rudy Gay got the best of him, but he also spent the summer playing for the national team and looks like he is worth every dime of the huge contract extension he signed this summer. 雖然Casspi第一次先發五顆三分全沒進,他還是有所演出。而第二場Casspi更展現出 他值得先發的原因,六投五中的三分。防守上他也很努力,他整個夏天的練習看來沒有浪 費。 The Repercussions I think all of these factors help to explain why Donté Greene is no longer the starter, but it falls short of explaining why he is no longer in the rotation. So we must continue. Garcia火、Head火 => Casspi先發 => Greene掉下來。 Samuel Dalembert missed game one coming back from an injured adductor, but it took him until game six to be completely healthy and ready to take over the starting center position. Kings rookie DeMarcus Cousins held down the fort the best he could in Dalembert’s absence, but unfortunately, he was constantly in foul trouble. Samuel錯過了第一場比賽,不過接下來他的上場時間就開始增加。而 DMC更是不得不 練。 With Cousins in foul trouble, seldom used forward/center Darnell Jackson stepped on the floor for the Kings and made an immediate impact. His ability to defend, rebound, set picks and hit an occasional jumper has earned him a spot in the rotation. Darnell Jackson在長人狂犯的時段表現良好,讓他成了輪替名單中的一員。 With both Dalembert and Cousins playing the center position and Carl Landry and Darnell Jackson playing the minutes at the power forward position, Kings third year 6′-11〃 power forward/center Jason Thompson has been forced to get his minutes elsewhere. Coach Westphal is trying out Thompson at the small forward behind Casspi in lieu of Greene. Dalembert、Cousins、Landry、Jackson 把禁區兩個位置的時間分光光。受到衝擊的 就是Thompson。而Westphal替Thompson找到時間,讓Greene的輪替時間也被清了乾淨。 Following practice on November 5th, Coach Westphal spoke to Greene’s role on the team: “Right now, to give a short answer, he is probably the 11 or 12 man on a 9 or 10 man rotation. That doesn’t mean that is a death sentence and it doesn ’t mean that it will be that way forever, but he is a young player and he’s a versatile young player and he has a lot of ability and a lot of potential, but he’s got a few guys ahead of him right now- that’s all.” 「現在他就是第十一或第十二人。」 好的,我們從頭整理一下: Garcia、Head火 => Casspi 先發 => Greene 先發掰 Dalembert回來 => 練DMC、愛Carl、Jackson跳出來 => JT禁區時間掰 => 幫JT找時間 => Greene 輪替掰 The Opinion Although Donté Greene’s career in Sacramento isn’t over, he alone opened a door that had no business being opened. By coming into camp out of shape, he fell behind. While he was struggling to get in better physical and mental shape, Casspi earned his minutes while Garcia, Head and Jackson filled some gaping holes in the team’s bench rotation. Greene還是沙城的一員,門也還沒關閉。在他擺脫體重的同時,Casspi拿到了信任, Garcia、Head、Jackson也搶好了位。 Being around the team for the entire training camp, I can make these assertions: Darnell Jackson was amazing from the first to the last day of camp. Francisco Garcia is the best shooter on the team. Jason Thompson not only came into camp in great shape, but gave Carl Landry everything he could handle in the battle for the starting power forward spot. Luther Head, once he got his legs back, has done an amazing job defending multiple positions and giving the team that spark they need off the bench. 身為追踨訓練營全程的我,我得說Jackson 從第一天到最後一天都很棒,Garcia是隊 上最準的射手,JT的體態絕佳,也和Landry有場大前鋒鬥爭。Head也有交出過防守演出。 Lastly, I will make this statement of opinion which is typically something I avoid here at TPP- Omri Casspi beat Donté Greene out during camp for the starting small forward spot. The reason Casspi did not start game one was because Coach Westphal thought he needed his scoring off the bench which the Coach has said repeatedly. That proved not to be the case and everything else has fallen into place. 最後我想說。Casspi真的在這段時間裡做得比Greene要好。Casspi不能先發,只有可 能是教練需要板凳的火力。 I believe Coach Westphal when he says that Donté Greene is the 11th or 12th man on the Kings roster. Further, I agree with Coach Westphal that Evans, Udrih, Casspi, Landry, Dalembert, Head, Garcia, Thompson, Jackson and Cousins are all better fits and better players at this point in the season. I would even go so far as to say that with Antoine Wright’s experience as a defender, he would be called on before Greene in most situations. All of this can change, certainly, but it will be up to Donté Greene to earn his way back into the rotation. 我相信Westphal說的沒錯,Greene現在是第十一或第十二人。前面十位現在都比他值 得上場。Antoine Wright的經驗也讓他上場的位置似乎優於Greene。Greene得自已找到重 回輪替的道路。 -- Garcia、Head火 => Casspi 先發 => Greene 先發掰 Dalembert回來 => 練DMC、愛Carl、Jackson跳出來 => JT禁區時間掰 => 幫JT找時間 => Greene 輪替掰 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 122.116.219.191

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11/11 15:48, , 2F
所以 的確 這還滿合理的 比起莫名奇妙來的好
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11/11 16:27, , 3F
重點還是教練抓JT去練小前鋒的結果
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11/11 16:33, , 4F
head火的時間已經多久以前啦 火個一陣就忘了他的自殺進攻
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11/11 16:35, , 5F
把jt抓去分食綠的時間根本是個錯誤 洗衣店賣相下滑中....
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11/11 17:33, , 6F
Head的表現沒有好到要冰Greene
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11/11 18:21, , 7F
叫JT去練小前鋒這種事超乎正常想像範圍,不予置評
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11/11 20:08, , 8F
這輪迴可以倒過來就好了 XD
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11/11 21:01, , 9F
好了 問題已經明朗化許多了 教練的輪替陣容下一場
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11/11 21:02, , 10F
應該會改變了,給他一點時間思考怎麼改變吧
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11/11 21:02, , 11F
後天對上太陽力保五成勝率吧
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Go Kings Go!
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