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[外電] LeBron a flopper? Lucas isn't sure

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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1FeXWT3i ] 作者: skymay (隨遇而安) 看板: NBA 標題: Re: [外絮] 拳王認為他對LBJ的動作是合法掩護 時間: Thu May 3 13:31:05 2012 關於這問題 一直有人提到 這影片 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btmEw2kZc34
所以現在上面影片的當事人Lucas的說法出來了 http://ppt.cc/L8_Q LeBron a flopper? Lucas isn't sure Chicago Bulls guard John Lucas III wouldn't say Miami Heat forward LeBron James is a flopper, but he did sense theatrical embellishment on James' part to Tyson Chandler's screen on Saturday. 芝加哥公牛的小後衛Lucas在接受採訪時討論起了LBJ是不是一個假摔者的話題 ，Lucas沒有明確表示他就認為LBJ是“假摔者”，但他覺得在熱火同尼克的系 列賽首戰中，LBJ和錢德勒那次比較爭議的衝撞其實是LBJ過分誇張地表演了一 把。 The reason it caught Lucas' attention was because James set an equally punishing screen on Lucas on April 19 in Miami. No foul was called on the screen, but the 5-11, 165-pound Lucas had to be kept from going after the 6-8, 250-pound James. Lucas and James -- who after the game said "I knew I had him" -- both received technicals, which prompted James to yell "For what?" 導致Lucas關注這件事情的原因是LBJ在4月19日主場對公牛的比賽中也對Lucas 來了這麼一個凶狠的掩護，當時沒有裁判吹這個掩護犯規，但兩人就此產生爭 執，都吃到了一個技術犯規，LBJ還大喊“為了什麼？” "I thought he threw his left shoulder into me a little bit, and then I look up and Tyson Chandler set a clean screen on him, and he took it like he just got shot," Lucas said Wednesday on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000. "You got to get back up. “我感覺他有點用他的左肩膀撞我，然後我認真看了後來錢德勒那次掩護，錢 德勒對他做了一個很乾淨的掩護，結果他的反應就好像被人打到了一樣，”Lucas 在今天接受ESPN1000電台的採訪節目時表示，“你必須要站起來才是。” "All that like your neck is hurt, that isn't cool." “你的反應搞得好像一切都在說明你的脖子受傷了，這可不是什麼好的行為。” Chandler was called for a Flagrant 2 foul that was downgraded to a Flagrant 1 in the New York Knicks' Game 1 loss. ESPN analyst and former Knicks coach Jeff Van Gundy said during the broadcast that he didn't think it was a flagrant foul at all. 錢德勒對LBJ的那次掩護犯規出現在兩隊季後賽首輪首戰，裁判第一時間是吹了 錢德勒2級惡意犯規，如果這樣的話，錢德勒將直接被驅逐。在隨後觀看了錄像 回放並進行合議後，裁判將錢德勒的這次2級惡意犯規降為了1級，錢德勒可以繼 續在場上比賽。有意思的是，在這個惡意犯規出現的第一時間，很多資深專家都 認為這不是一個惡意犯規。包括ESPN分析家、前尼克主教練傑夫-范甘迪，他在 擔任現場解說的過程中表示，他一點也不認為這個掩護是一個惡意犯規。 Lucas was asked if James is a flopper. "If that's what you want to say, I don't know," Lucas said. "I just watch the game of basketball like everyone else watches the game of basketball. I feel like when you set a screen like that on somebody, you're taking the risk of hurting that person. For him, I felt he threw his left shoulder. I let him know that wasn't going to fly with me." “如果你是想這麼表達的話，那麼我也不清楚是不是，”Lucas說道，“我只是 像其他所有人一樣觀看了籃球比賽，我覺得當你像那樣對什麼人做一個掩護時， 你就要冒著會傷到對方的風險。對於他之前對我的那次掩護來說，我覺得他是用 了他的左肩膀，我讓他知道了這次他沒法從我身上飛過去。” Lucas and James had a little history before the screen. Lucas hit a shot over James on March 14 and had some words for the two-time MVP as Lucas' 24 points sparked the Bulls to victory. 參考翻譯 : http://sports.163.com/12/0503/09/80IQ95CD00051CA1.html ※ 引述《loserkobe (喪家犬科比)》之銘言： : Chandler came to life for a stretch in the second quarter when he drilled : LeBron James's blind side with a screen. : Chandler was initially whistled for a flagrant II and tossed from the game. : After the officials reviewed the play, they changed the foul to a flagrant I. : Chandler felt there shouldn't have been a whistle at all. : Chandler在第二節的時候 做掩護時把LBJ擊倒在地 接著馬上領到了一個二級的技術犯規 : 不過裁判看了重播後 更改回一級技術犯規 : Chandler覺得他不應該被吹 : "I thought it was a legal pick, honestly," Chandler said. "He didn't see me : coming. I tried to set a pick for my guard to be able to come off and exploit : it. I got a flagrant for it, but I didn't think it was illegal at all. : "老實講我真的覺得那只是個合法掩護而已 是LBJ沒看到我過來 : 然後我試著讓我的隊友可以過半場罷了 接著我就領到了一個技術犯規 : 但我認為我的掩護是合法 不是犯規" : Chandler說道 : Said James: "It was one of those hits that hurt, but I'm all right now." : "當下很痛 不過我已經沒事囉" : LBJ說道 : 來源:http://ppt.cc/66k2 : 拳王掩護卻打到LBJ的影片 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oafnB3RqO98
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05/03 13:32, , 1F
這球犯規絕對是有的 只是判太重了
05/03 13:32, 1F
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05/03 13:34, , 2F
為什麼James雙手還要上揚? XDD
05/03 13:34, 2F
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05/03 13:34, , 3F
LBJ：你有一整個暑假的時間慢慢該
05/03 13:34, 3F
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05/03 13:35, , 4F
顏色不對
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05/03 13:36, , 5F
這兩個差滿多的...
05/03 13:36, 5F
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05/03 13:36, , 6F
感覺以後糗LBJ的影片應該會出現這一段很多次哈哈哈
05/03 13:36, 6F
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05/03 13:36, , 7F
想表達的就是裁判雙重標準 加上LBJ稍微的演了一下
05/03 13:36, 7F
※ 編輯: skymay 來自: 111.242.25.31 (05/03 13:38)
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05/03 13:37, , 8F
拳王是犯規 但是不到惡意
05/03 13:37, 8F
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05/03 13:38, , 9F
惡意真的太重了
05/03 13:38, 9F
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05/03 13:38, , 10F
˙看單次算強硬犯規非惡意 應該是因為之前已經好幾次
05/03 13:38, 10F
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05/03 13:40, , 11F
之前好幾次又如何，犯規程度是累加的嗎？
05/03 13:40, 11F
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05/03 13:41, , 12F
LBJ真會演
05/03 13:41, 12F
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05/03 13:41, , 13F
同意，犯規是有的。可是吹到惡意就真的太超過了。
05/03 13:41, 13F
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05/03 13:41, , 14F
牌子大小說明一切
05/03 13:41, 14F
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05/03 13:42, , 15F
都演成這樣了 不吹一下行嗎?
05/03 13:42, 15F
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05/03 13:43, , 16F
跟Harden一樣都很會演
05/03 13:43, 16F
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05/03 13:44, , 17F
小鼻子小眼睛到這種程度 家常便飯的衝撞
05/03 13:44, 17F
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05/03 13:45, , 18F
不過這種家常便飯也不是每個人都吃得下的XDD
05/03 13:45, 18F
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05/03 13:45, , 19F
都在地上哀爸叫母了 不吹說不過去啊
05/03 13:45, 19F
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05/03 13:45, , 20F
LBJ:朕認為那是惡意犯規 裁判:喳
05/03 13:45, 20F
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05/03 13:46, , 21F
steve搞錯因果關係了
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05/03 13:47, , 22F
JVG超恨這些有戲份的東西啊他也不算什麼中立的看法XD
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05/03 13:48, , 23F
人家彌彌咩
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05/03 13:48, , 24F
演技超群 未奪冠先奪影帝也可
05/03 13:48, 24F
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05/03 13:49, , 25F
影帝
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05/03 13:53, , 26F
儉樸彌彌最愛說別人彌彌
05/03 13:53, 26F
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05/03 13:55, , 27F
被陰了就陰回去阿 只會跟記者講一堆話有用嗎= =?
05/03 13:55, 27F
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05/03 13:55, , 28F
影弟～～影弟～～影弟～～
05/03 13:55, 28F
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05/03 13:56, , 29F
這種都是記者跑去問的 誰會這麼無聊硬要找記者說
05/03 13:56, 29F
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05/03 14:01, , 30F
都是黑俠彌彌
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05/03 14:01, , 31F
長得醜演技當然要好，實力派影帝當之無愧!
05/03 14:01, 31F
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05/03 14:04, , 32F
LBJ就NBA的C羅阿，可以去歐洲踢足球了
05/03 14:04, 32F
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05/03 14:05, , 33F
演的很辛苦耶 吹個惡意過分嗎
05/03 14:05, 33F
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05/03 14:07, , 34F
黑了一狗票人還敢說別人黑 臉皮子彈都打不穿
05/03 14:07, 34F
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05/03 14:12, , 35F
影弟無誤
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05/03 14:16, , 36F
令人作嘔排行第一的大弟
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05/03 14:17, , 37F
靠 引來高潮科謎...
05/03 14:17, 37F
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05/03 14:22, , 38F
自己反串的挺爽
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噓
05/03 14:24, , 39F
黑火黑哨又愛演
05/03 14:24, 39F
噓
05/03 14:29, , 40F
熱火隊為了贏得總冠軍甚麼招都用上去了 假摔不意外
05/03 14:29, 40F
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05/03 14:31, , 41F
影帝 犯規沒錯 但是演戲不是要吹技術犯規嗎?
05/03 14:31, 41F
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05/03 14:32, , 42F
奇怪 幹嘛不去採訪LBJ本人 問這個小咖當花邊新聞
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05/03 14:33, , 43F
有阿 LBJ說了:"當下很痛 不過我已經沒事囉"
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05/03 14:34, , 44F
我回的原文內原PO就有放了
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05/03 15:15, , 45F
單次算強硬犯規非惡意 裁判是之前已經有火氣而警告吧
05/03 15:15, 45F
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05/03 15:15, , 46F
火迷：你看錢的手向前了。 球員跟教練：……
05/03 15:15, 46F
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05/03 15:34, , 47F
有些人睜眼說瞎話 不意外...
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05/03 15:59, , 48F
一堆人怎不去實際測試一下 這樣被打到有多痛
05/03 15:59, 48F
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05/03 16:06, , 49F
奧斯卡最佳________
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噓
05/03 16:11, , 50F
不易外
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05/03 16:11, , 51F
這麼骯髒的動作
05/03 16:11, 51F
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05/03 16:12, , 52F
哪有一個乾淨的掩護是把拐子跟重心整個架出去
05/03 16:12, 52F
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05/03 16:12, , 53F
實在是顯而易見的骯髒
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噓
05/03 16:12, , 54F
盧卡斯明明就被LBJ飛過去 然後耿耿於懷-.-
05/03 16:12, 54F
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05/03 16:13, , 55F
LUCAS其實真的不用管 他的麻煩比別人多太多了
05/03 16:13, 55F
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05/03 16:14, , 56F
某場對公鹿就用過這招了裁判也沒吹
05/03 16:14, 56F
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05/03 16:15, , 57F
拳王也是冒著手受傷的危險對LBJ這麼做的好嗎
05/03 16:15, 57F
噓
05/03 16:29, , 58F
Is LeBron tryingto win a ring or an Oscar最佳頻論
05/03 16:29, 58F
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05/03 16:33, , 59F
LBJ不是人稱生化人嗎 怎麼這麼弱不禁風阿~
05/03 16:33, 59F
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05/03 16:34, , 60F
真的 LBJ當時的掩護真的好骯髒 尻飛Lucas
05/03 16:34, 60F
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05/03 16:35, , 61F
被John Lucas打爆也不用這樣偷偷報復人家
05/03 16:35, 61F
噓
05/03 16:42, , 62F
火迷 摸毛犯規
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噓
05/03 17:05, , 63F
假摔王無誤 ZZZZZ
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05/03 17:35, , 64F
敢罵LB＿　小盧要黑了
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05/03 17:50, , 65F
LBJ：I don't respond to nobodies
05/03 17:50, 65F
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05/03 19:42, , 66F
卡卡瘦乖乖當個娘娘吧。這命中率也敢有發言權
05/03 19:42, 66F
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05/03 19:43, , 67F
LBJ那球上半身沒動；拳王勒?科科，重心整個向前傾
05/03 19:43, 67F
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05/03 19:45, , 68F
他是被LBJ飛天神灌耿耿於懷。有人看過那麼乾淨的飛人
05/03 19:45, 68F
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05/03 19:46, , 69F
灌籃，還不會TOUCH到的嗎？答案：LBJ
05/03 19:46, 69F
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05/03 20:29, , 70F
以及拿光頭范當標準，就已失公允，他尼克前教頭捏!
05/03 20:29, 70F
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05/03 20:30, , 71F
他有可能說「拳王二級犯規判得真是太好了，M起來」嗎
05/03 20:30, 71F
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