[外絮] B/R 各隊隊史最佳的二當家

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The Best 2nd Option in Every NBA Team's History Atlanta Hawks: Cliff Hagan No. 2 option behind: Bob Pettit Boston Celtics: Kevin McHale No. 2 option behind: Larry Bird Brooklyn Nets: Brook Lopez No. 2 option behind: Deron Williams Charlotte Hornets: Alonzo Mourning No. 2 option behind: Larry Johnson Chicago Bulls: Scottie Pippen No. 2 option behind: Michael Jordan You could bet the bank this one was coming. Scottie Pippen is the greatest No. 2 of all time. Period. As the GOAT, Michael Jordan got his deserved glory, but Pippen suffocated the other team's best player every night and ran the offense when MJ let him. Without Pippen, Jordan becomes stuck in the wilderness. Pippen's length, vision, IQ, and versatility changed basketball. He could switch onto anyone 1 through 5 and give 'em a gauntlet. On offense, he forever etched "point forward" into the nomenclature. People like to reduce him to Robin, but no Robin never averaged near-triple-doubles in the championship round. Pippen dropped a cool 20.5 points, 9.2 rebounds and 7.7 assists per game in the 1993 Finals. For reasons only Pippen can answer for, giving him his due is messy. He's spent years post-career cutting at Jordan and muddying the legacy he helped build. Everyone remembers the 1.8 seconds in '94 when he wouldn't check back in. That ego was always there, but it doesn't diminish his greatness. 這個結果毫無懸念,Scottie Pippen就是史上最偉大的「二當家」毫無爭議。作為籃球 之神Michael Jordan獲得了他應得的榮耀,但Pippen每晚都能鎖死對方球隊的最佳球員, 並在Jordan讓權時主導進攻。沒有Pippen,Jordan恐怕會深陷迷失之中。 Scottie Pippen的身體天賦、場上視野、籃球智商與全能風格改變了籃球運動。他能從1 號換防到5號位,給對手製造巨大麻煩。在進攻端,他將「控球前鋒」這個詞永遠地載入 籃球術語。人們總愛把他比作羅賓,但從沒有哪個羅賓能在總決賽階段繳出接近大三元的 數據,在1993年總決賽Pippen場均能穩定貢獻20.5分、9.2個籃板和7.7次助攻。 出於只有Pippen自己才清楚的原因,給予他應得的讚賞總是伴隨著爭議。退役後這些年他 不斷抨擊Jordan,也讓自己曾參與締造的輝煌歷史變得模糊。所有人都記得1994年的那個 1.8秒他拒絕重新上場,那種自尊心一直都在但這不會削弱他的偉大。 Cleveland Cavaliers: Kyrie Irving No. 2 option behind: LeBron James Has any second option ever had a more memorable moment than Kyrie Irving? We're talking about the shot over Steph Curry, Game 7, 2016 Finals. That's a legacy bucket. Cleveland's ark. A reminder sometimes it's Robin who saves Gotham. Forget the flat-Earth jokes for a second. Without Kyrie, the Cavs don't get that 2016 title. Cleveland and Golden State developed a legendary rivalry in the second half of the 2010s. Every possession felt like two men fighting over a knife in the mud. In the trenches, there was no better co-star for James to go to war with than Irving. But Irving never wanted to be anyone's No. 2, and maybe that's why it worked for just long enough. Just like LeBron's first Cleveland tenure, Irving needed to leave to find his own path. He was the initial domino, followed by LeBron bolting to L.A. with the Cavs championship window slamming shut behind them. But that doesn't erase what he did for the city. His "shot" gave Cleveland its first parade in half a century. 有哪個二當家的經典時刻,能比Kyrie Irving更令人難忘?我們要說的正是2016年總決賽 第七戰,他在Steph Curry面前投進的那一球,那記足以載入史冊,更提醒著人們:有時 拯救高譚市的正是羅賓。先把地平說的玩笑放到一旁,沒有Irving,騎士隊拿不到2016年 的總冠軍。 2010年代後半段,克利夫蘭騎士與金州勇士締造了一段傳奇對決。每一次攻防回合,都 像兩人在泥沼裡搶一把刀般激烈。在這樣的戰壕中,對LeBron James來說,沒有比Irving 更合適的戰友。但Irving從來不甘於做任何人的二當家,或許正因如此,他們的合作才能 恰好維持那段時間。 就像LeBron James第一次效力克利夫蘭那樣,Kyrie Irving也需要去開闢屬於自己的道路 。他是引發連鎖反應的第一塊骨牌,緊接著James轉戰洛杉磯,騎士隊的奪冠窗口也隨之 關閉。但這絲毫無法抹去他為這座城市所做的一切:他的那記致勝球,為克利夫蘭帶來了 半個世紀以來的第一場冠軍遊行。 Dallas Mavericks: Jason Terry No. 2 option behind: Dirk Nowitzki Denver Nuggets: Jamal Murray No. 2 option behind: Nikola Jokic Detroit Pistons: Joe Dumars No. 2 option behind: Isiah Thomas Golden State Warriors: Steph Curry No. 2 option behind: Kevin Durant Yeah, it sounds insane—Steph Curry a second option? But in the Warriors' Kevin Durant years, that's exactly what he was. The most dangerous shooter in history willingly bent his game to let Durant cook. Most superstars in that position would've bristled, demanding the ball. Curry did the opposite. Look at the numbers to see the balance. In 2017, Curry put up 26.8 points, 8.0 rebounds and 9.4 assists per game against Cleveland—an almost triple-double pace. The following year, in 2018, Durant won another Finals MVP, but Curry still averaged 27.5 points, 6.0 rebounds and 6.8 assists, including a Finals-record nine made threes in Game 2. And here's the kicker: He sacrificed a chunk of his own legacy to do it. But the trade-off made him sharper. Playing next to Durant forced Curry to weaponize his off-ball movement to the extreme, to become an even more relentless off-ball sprinter, a more dangerous decoy, a more complete player. When Durant left, Curry took the throne back without hesitation and won his first Finals MVP in 2022. 沒錯,這聽起來很不可思議,Steph Curry曾甘願當副手? 但是在Kevin Durant效力勇士的那些年裡,事實正是如此。這位史上最具威脅的射手主動 調整自己的打法,為Durant的發揮創造空間。大多數處於這個位置的超級巨星可能會心生 不滿,要求更多球權但Curry卻選擇了相反的做法。 看數據可見兩人的平衡:2017年對陣騎士隊時,Curry場均能得到26.8分、8籃板和9.4助攻 ,幾乎達到大三元水準。到了2018年,儘管Durant再度奪得FMVP,但Curry仍場均27.5分、 6籃板、6.8助攻,其中在總決賽第二戰還投進9記三分球,刷新總決賽單場三分命中紀錄。 更關鍵的是:他為此犧牲了自己職業生涯裡的一部分榮耀。但這份交換卻讓他變得更強, 與Durant並肩作戰的經歷,使Curry將無球跑動發揮到極致,他成了更不知疲倦的無球者、 更具威脅的進攻誘餌、更全面的球員。 當Durant離開後,Curry毫不遲疑地重新坐上王座,並在2022年拿下自己的首個FMVP。 Houston Rockets: Ralph Sampson No. 2 option behind: Hakeem Olajuwon Indiana Pacers: Pascal Siakam No. 2 option behind: Tyrese Haliburton Los Angeles Clippers: Blake Griffin No. 2 option behind: Chris Paul Los Angeles Lakers: Kobe Bryant No. 2 option behind: Shaquille O'Neal Game 4 of the 2000 NBA Finals. Overtime. Shaquille O'Neal, the most dominant force in basketball, had just fouled out. Without Shaq, the Lakers were supposed to fold. That's when a 21-year-old Kobe Bryant, limping on a bum ankle, looked around and decided the game was his. This was the moment that transformed him from sidekick to co-star. The Mamba went to work. Pull-up jumpers with a hand in his face. Floaters in the lane. A cold-blooded midrange dagger after crossing up Jalen Rose. He hit four shots in the final minutes, each one an explicit affirmation that the Lakers weren't giving this away. The Pacers tried to trap him, body him, make him feel the weight of Shaq's absence. But Kobe didn't blink. He rose into the teeth of the defense with both fists clenched. When the horn finally sounded, he had 28 points—eight of them in overtime—sealing the win that gave L.A. a 3-1 stranglehold on the series. Shaq would recall the moment after fouling out with 2:33 left and the Lakers clinging to a 112-109 lead, saying that Kobe told him,"Don't worry about it." 2000年NBA總決賽第四場延長賽階段。當時籃球界最具統治力的球員Shaq O’Neal剛剛犯 滿畢業。少了Shaq的湖人隊本應崩盤,但21歲的Kobe Bryant拖著受傷的腳踝,決定接管 這場比賽。 就是這個時刻,讓他從搭檔搖身一變成為聯合主角。The Mamba隨即展開行動:面對防守 球員貼身干擾仍完成急停跳投,在禁區內命中拋投更在晃開Jalen Rose後冷靜投進一記中 距離致命一擊。最後幾分鐘,他連續命中四球,每一球都在明確宣告:湖人隊絕不會放棄 這場勝利。 溜馬隊曾試圖對他進行包夾、上身體對抗,讓他感受到缺少Shaq的壓力,但Kobe絲毫沒有 退縮。當終場哨聲響起時,他全場拿下28分,其中8分來自延長賽,憑藉這表現湖人隊以3 比1在系列賽中取得壓倒性優勢。 Shaq事後回憶,當比賽還剩2分33秒湖人隊僅以112比109微弱領先,他因犯滿離場時, Kobe只對他講了一句:「別擔心。」 Memphis Grizzlies: Marc Gasol No. 2 option behind: Zach Randolph Miami Heat: Dwyane Wade No. 2 option behind: LeBron James Milwaukee Bucks: Oscar Robertson No. 2 option behind: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Minnesota Timberwolves: Karl-Anthony Towns No. 2 option behind: Anthony Edwards New Orleans Pelicans: David West No. 2 option behind: Chris Paul New York Knicks: Walt Frazier No. 2 option behind: Willis Reed Oklahoma City Thunder: Russell Westbrook No. 2 option behind: Kevin Durant Orlando Magic: Penny Hardaway No. 2 option behind: Shaquille O'Neal Philadelphia 76ers: Julius Erving No. 2 option behind: Moses Malone Phoenix Suns: Amar'e Stoudemire No. 2 option behind: Steve Nash Portland Trail Blazers: Terry Porter No. 2 option behind: Clyde Drexler Sacramento Kings: Mike Bibby No. 2 option behind: Chris Webber San Antonio Spurs: Tony Parker No. 2 option behind: Tim Duncan Toronto Raptors: Kyle Lowry No. 2 option behind: Kawhi Leonard Utah Jazz: John Stockton No. 2 option behind: Karl Malone Washington Wizards: Bradley Beal No. 2 option behind: John Wall 來源:https://reurl.cc/W8Rz0D https://x.com/BleacherReport/status/1995231260852289845 心得:簡短列出BR提到的四個二當家Pippen、Irving、Curry、Kobe 灰狼不是KG時期比較意外 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.231.95.158 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1764675765.A.A24.html ※ 編輯: kakala99 (36.231.95.158 臺灣), 12/02/2025 19:46:57

12/02 19:44, 56分鐘前 , 1F
這什麼超級釣魚文 好好笑
12/02 19:44, 1F

12/02 19:47, 53分鐘前 , 2F
笑死
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12/02 19:47, 53分鐘前 , 3F
看到勇湖就開始期待推文了
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12/02 19:47, 53分鐘前 , 4F
廢文王id不意外
12/02 19:47, 4F

12/02 19:48, 52分鐘前 , 5F
我看到魚餌了,好想咬一口
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12/02 19:48, 52分鐘前 , 6F
B/R 文章正常發揮
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12/02 19:48, 52分鐘前 , 7F
勇士 釣魚場
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12/02 19:48, 52分鐘前 , 8F
KI二當家真假 那大當家是誰 LOVE嗎?
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12/02 19:48, 52分鐘前 , 9F
大膽 下面開始默背格林公式 一人一城警告
12/02 19:48, 9F

12/02 19:49, 51分鐘前 , 10F
勇士 FMVP 是二當家?
12/02 19:49, 10F

12/02 19:49, 51分鐘前 , 11F
海釣場
12/02 19:49, 11F

12/02 19:50, 50分鐘前 , 12F
這什麼釣魚文….
12/02 19:50, 12F

12/02 19:50, 50分鐘前 , 13F
勇士那個是下跪的傭兵連二當家都不配 二當家應該是
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12/02 19:50, 50分鐘前 , 14F
四爺
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12/02 19:51, 49分鐘前 , 15F
看到Curry就end了
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12/02 19:51, 49分鐘前 , 16F
最後一擊是KI投的 所以他才是大當家
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12/02 19:51, 49分鐘前 , 17F
KG時期馬大少 槍西 鎖喉手都待不久
12/02 19:51, 17F

12/02 19:52, 48分鐘前 , 18F
舊金山永遠的大巴司機
12/02 19:52, 18F

12/02 19:52, 48分鐘前 , 19F
KD勇,沒毛病
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12/02 19:52, 48分鐘前 , 20F
curry 中肯
12/02 19:52, 20F

12/02 19:53, 47分鐘前 , 21F
KD拿2FMVP基本上沒什麼有太多意見的吧,都在吵15
12/02 19:53, 21F

12/02 19:53, 47分鐘前 , 22F
KD勇,KD擺在前面,確實是老大沒錯
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12/02 19:54, 46分鐘前 , 23F
巫師隊的兩個有點好笑...
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12/02 19:55, 45分鐘前 , 24F
看到咖哩就笑了
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12/02 19:55, 45分鐘前 , 25F
釣魚場 ̄▽ ̄||
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12/02 19:56, 44分鐘前 , 26F
Amare第一,Nash第二?笑死
12/02 19:56, 26F

12/02 19:56, 44分鐘前 , 27F
雷霆也是釣啊,不寫去年冠軍時期
12/02 19:56, 27F

12/02 19:57, 43分鐘前 , 28F
KI二當家有問題嗎?好奇什麼人會質疑
12/02 19:57, 28F

12/02 19:58, 42分鐘前 , 29F
Mourning behind LJ?? Zo應該不會同意
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12/02 19:58, 42分鐘前 , 30F
雷霆拿冠是拿冠 但是二當家沒贏龜龜吧?
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12/02 19:58, 42分鐘前 , 31F
這個排名騎士、勇士、湖人的老大老二都應該反過來
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12/02 19:58, 42分鐘前 , 32F
,有看球的都懂誰是真的對球隊貢獻最大的
12/02 19:58, 32F

12/02 20:02, 38分鐘前 , 33F
還不錯笑 給推
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12/02 20:03, 37分鐘前 , 34F
呵呵
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12/02 20:03, 37分鐘前 , 35F
噓太陽的是英文好到看不懂behind嗎?
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12/02 20:04, 36分鐘前 , 36F
同隊FMVP 2>0,沒毛病
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12/02 20:04, 36分鐘前 , 37F
魚餌我咬!
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12/02 20:05, 35分鐘前 , 38F
把老大跟咖喱擺在老二 這兩個再怎樣也不會輸Pippe
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12/02 20:05, 35分鐘前 , 39F
n吧==
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12/02 20:06, 34分鐘前 , 40F
它暴龍就選拿冠那年的,雷霆當然也該選奪冠年
12/02 20:06, 40F

12/02 20:07, 33分鐘前 , 41F
這篇同時存在咖哩、KD、老大、歐肥,該世界大戰了
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12/02 20:08, 32分鐘前 , 42F
KD當咖哩的老二 笑死 不要丟人現眼
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12/02 20:10, 30分鐘前 , 43F
副手咖實至名歸
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12/02 20:10, 30分鐘前 , 44F
咖哩二當家? 鯊魚時期kobe二當家沒毛病
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12/02 20:11, 29分鐘前 , 45F
KD+JDub,KD+龜。哪個適合二當家。
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12/02 20:13, 27分鐘前 , 46F
這篇會戰起來吧 哈哈哈哈
12/02 20:13, 46F

12/02 20:18, 22分鐘前 , 47F
超好笑
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12/02 20:19, 21分鐘前 , 48F
看到咖哩成為二當家快笑死
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12/02 20:19, 21分鐘前 , 49F
我沒有釣
12/02 20:19, 49F

12/02 20:20, 20分鐘前 , 50F
刷咖哭狸就是媒體認證的二當家 提醒:B/R把哭狸排
12/02 20:20, 50F

12/02 20:20, 20分鐘前 , 51F
在第10 Kobe第11
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12/02 20:22, 18分鐘前 , 52F
kobe當時確實是二當家 這就算老大迷也不會否認
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12/02 20:22, 18分鐘前 , 53F
歐肥當時的數據完虐Kobe吧 沒啥爭議
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12/02 20:22, 18分鐘前 , 54F
是把新聞當threads 在用喔
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12/02 20:22, 18分鐘前 , 55F
Gasol弟 二當家? 他才是灰熊老大吧
12/02 20:22, 55F
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