[轉錄]Re: Selecting the All-Decade team

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※ [本文轉錄自 MLB 看板] 作者: broken543 (沒多少時間好殺) 看板: MLB 標題: Re: Selecting the All-Decade team 時間: Sat Dec 19 16:40:29 2009 另外一個作家下了不同標題,排出來第一棒嚇到我 Batting 1st: Carlos Delgado, 2000, 1B Batting 2nd: Sammy Sosa, 2001, RF Batting 3rd: David Ortiz, 2007, DH Batting 4th: Barry Bonds, 2001, LF Batting 5th: Alex Rodriguez, 2007, 3B Batting 6th: Alex Rodriguez, 2001, SS Batting 7th: Joe Mauer, 2009, C Batting 8th: Jeff Kent, 2000, 2B Batting 9th: Jim Edmonds, 2004, CF 底下是全文 http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/news/story?id=4753827 標題:An all-decade, all-value lineup card By Erik Manning FanGraphs.com This week on ESPN.com, writers and editors will be looking back at the past decade in baseball -- and looking ahead to the future. Today, Erik Manning of FanGraphs attempts to create the ultimate lineup in terms of value and production from 2000 through 2009. This should be fun. Over the past decade, fans have witnessed some astonishing offensive performances. We've been spoiled by Joe Mauer's 2009, which was one of the best seasons by a catcher ever. Alex Rodriguez hit more than 50 home runs as a shortstop -- twice. We've seen the crowning of a new home run king. Historic stuff. You could assemble a dream lineup from some of these single-season achievements, so why not indulge in a little fantasy? There are plenty of stats we could look at to determine who had the best season at each position, but a good catch-all number is weighted Batting Runs above Average. It's based on a FanGraphs stat called wOBA, which sums up a player's production in a single number. One thing to be aware of before we get started with the actual lineup: All these guys are, for the most part, middle-of-the-order hitters. Don't get too hung up on actual batting order. Most studies of batting order show that even using the optimal 1-9 slotting, you're going to gain only one or two wins. Here we go now with the ultimate all-decade, all-value, all-production lineup. In case you doubt its value before we begin, consider this: If we plug this lineup into David Pinto's lineup analysis tool, we learn the dream team you'll discover below would score an average of nine runs per game. That means a team with this lineup could have the woeful 2003 Detroit Tigers as its pitching staff and still win 115 games. Ready? Let's go. Batting first: Carlos Delgado, 2000, 1B Whew. This was a close one. Delgado's greatest competition, surprisingly, was not Albert Pujols -- it was Jason Giambi. Giambi won the MVP in 2000 and was slightly better in 2001, hitting for an insane .342/.477/.660 line. Giambi's 2001 is just a sliver better than Delgado's in terms of batting runs above replacement -- 102.8 BRAR to 102.6 -- but the edge goes to Delgado because he started every game at first base. Giambi played 17 games as the A's DH. Delgado hit .344, drew 123 walks and slugged for an absurd .664; he would hardly be your prototypical leadoff hitter, but in 2000 he did have a healthy .470 on-base percentage. Batting second: Sammy Sosa, 2001, RF While Slammin' Sammy is remembered best for the summer of '98, this was Sosa's finest season. Unfortunately, no one outside of Chicago seemed to notice, because of what Barry Bonds was doing in San Francisco. Not only did Sosa top 60 home runs for the third time, but he also enjoyed career highs in batting average (.328) and walks (116). Batting third: David Ortiz, 2007, DH When you think Ortiz, you probably think "clutch" first. This wasn't his most clutch season, but it was arguably his most productive; he hit 54 homers in 2006, but in 2007 he hit .332 instead of .287 and posted a similar slugging percentage. Batting fourth: Barry Bonds, 2001, LF His single-season slugging, on-base percentage, walks and home runs from '01 are simply untouchable, barring an unforeseen superhero coming onto the scene. Batting fifth: Alex Rodriguez, 2007, 3B A-Rod hit .314/.422/.645 with 54 homers and ran away with the MVP; he enjoys the distinction of setting single-season home run records for two different positions (shortstop and third base). Batting sixth: Alex Rodriguez, 2001, SS This certainly might pose a logistical challenge, as human cloning hasn't yet reached this level of sophistication. Seriously, though, the only competition for A-Rod was A-Rod. 2002 Rodriguez and 2001 Rodriguez were very close. He hit more homers in '02 (57) but hit for a higher average with more doubles in 2001. He had 82 batting runs above replacement in 2001, 80 in '02. Batting seventh: Joe Mauer, 2009, C Mauer was like vintage Mike Piazza with the bat -- and he won a Gold Glove to boot. Mauer finally had his long-anticipated power breakout (28 homers) and hit for an astounding .365 batting average. Babe Phelps is the only catcher to qualify for a batting title with a higher average, and he only had 319 at-bats back in 1936 for the Dodgers. One can only wonder what Mauer would have done had he not missed the entire month of April. Batting eighth: Jeff Kent, 2000, 2B Kent won the MVP, edging out his teammate Barry Bonds even though Bonds actually had the better season. Bonds had more wins above replacement, 8.7 to 7.9. Kent set personal bests in a number of different categories, including slugging (.596) and on-base percentage (.424). Even in this age of offense, you do not often see this type of production from a middle infielder. You could argue he was more of a first baseman posing as a second baseman, but regardless, this was quite a remarkable season. Batting ninth: Jim Edmonds, 2004, CF Edmonds, Scott Rolen and Pujols formed "MV3" in this year -- each player had an MVP-caliber performance in 2004 and the Cardinals won 105 games, only to be swept by the Boston Red Sox in the World Series. Edmonds hit .301 despite striking out 150 times, but he slugged .643, drew 101 walks and won his fifth consecutive Gold Glove. Erik Manning is the founder of Future Redbirds and a contributor to FanGraphs. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 173.89.0.104

12/19 16:41,
!!!掉嘎多
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12/19 16:41,
A-Rod分身?
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12/19 16:43,
明年a-rod去站2b 馬上2b又一個a-rod 這個他恐怕有6個位置
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12/19 16:47,
他在玩全民打棒球嗎?
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12/19 16:48,
只要是打擊 A-ROD守哪 哪個位置一定都有他啊= =
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12/19 16:49,
噢不對 1B跟LF就搶不贏了XD
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12/19 16:49,
我正想回bonds...XD
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12/19 16:50,
推2004的Edmonds~
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12/19 16:50,
棒子如果站一壘跟DH也沒人搶得過他啊
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12/19 16:50,
不過Bonds就算站CF應該也可以用棒子補回來防守部份..XD
12/19 16:50

12/19 16:50,
見鬼了~ 沒普神????
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12/19 16:51,
OF*3+DH+1B統統給他完就好了..我還是覺得一個人只能入選一次
12/19 16:51

12/19 16:51,
比較妥當一點
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12/19 16:52,
我是想說搞不好A-ROD搞不好可以接球說...
12/19 16:52

12/19 16:52,
不然1~5棒都是Bonds 投手應該會變成余祥銓...XD
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12/19 16:54,
投手改老克 SPRPCL老克對上1-9棒子 應該有看頭
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12/19 16:54,
我查了一下 2000年的Delgado OBP.470,SLG.664,OPS 1.134
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12/19 16:55,
普神還真的沒有整季總合這麼威過
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12/19 16:57,
恩 感謝樓上解答 另外 余祥銓的梗 我不懂..
12/19 16:57

12/19 16:57,
樓上 會崩潰
12/19 16:57

12/19 17:00,
只看OPS 那00年的Helton 1.162更高 看OPS+ Pujols有三年比
12/19 17:00

12/19 17:00,
Delgado的181更高
12/19 17:00

12/19 17:15,
好歹屌哥也是砲..
12/19 17:15

12/19 17:28,
A-rod:我好友伍茲說應付不來,我只好分身幫他一下
12/19 17:28

12/19 17:33,
難得有個明星隊沒普神..
12/19 17:33

12/19 17:35,
我想看巔峰的兒子佩卓面對老衲棒子、阿肉等人!
12/19 17:35

12/19 17:43,
Pedro有對決過A-Rod
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12/19 17:49,
兩個阿肉XDD
12/19 17:49

12/19 17:49,
借轉阿肉板
12/19 17:49
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