[外電] 拓荒者:我們打算留住Batum

看板BLAZERS (波特蘭 拓荒者)作者 (Rudy Fernandez)時間13年前 (2012/07/06 11:58), 編輯推噓47(47024)
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Trail Blazers tell Nicolas Batum they intend to keep him By Jason Quick, The Oregonian http://goo.gl/JkKQh The Trail Blazers delivered a direct and emphatic message to free agent Nicolas Batum during a downtown meeting Thursday afternoon: 在星期四下午,波特蘭制服組在與Batum的一次直接面談中,丟出了一個 直接了當的訊息: Batum will remain with the Blazers. Batum仍然會是個拓荒者。 A trio of Blazers executives, led by general manager Neil Olshey, met with Batum and agent Bouna Ndiaye and told the 23-year-old forward that they intend to keep him in a Blazers uniform no matter what other teams offer him or propose to the team in trades. 由拓荒者GM Neil Olshey帶領的三人小組,告訴Batum以及他的經紀人Ndiaye, 不管其他隊伍出多少錢,拓荒者都會跟進合約,意思就是,Batum你留定了。 "We told Nic that it is in his best interests to sign with us," Olshey said. Olshey說:我們跟Batum說留在拓荒者會是你的最佳選擇! Olshey's message was a not-so-veiled counter to Minnesota, where Batum spent three days last weekend being courted by general manager David Kahn and Timberwolves ownership. After Batum left, it was speculated that Minnesota would offer a four-year deal ranging from $45 million to $50 million, or that the Timberwolves would entertain sign-and-trade scenarios. Despite the rumors of Minnesota's offer, as of Thursday there had been no verbal agreement with Batum and Minnesota. Olshey的這番言論無疑是直接回應灰狼隊,Batum在上周末花了三天跟灰狼的GM David Kahn以及高層會談,一般猜測明尼蘇達可能會給Batum 4年 45~50M美金的合約, 或是灰狼可能會尋求先簽後換的方式來得到Batum,不過儘管有這些傳聞,Batum與灰狼 並沒有達成任何的口頭協議。 Batum is a restricted free agent, meaning the Blazers can match offers from other teams. The Blazers can also offer up to a five-year contract, whereas other teams can offer only up to a four-year deal. Players can sign an offer sheet beginning at 9 p.m. Tuesday, and teams have 72 hours to match signed offers. Batum是個受限制的自由球員,這代表著拓荒者可以跟進任何其他球隊的合約, 其他球隊最多只能給4年長度的合約,而拓荒者可以給到5年,在下禮拜二晚上開始, 受限制自由球員就可以簽下任何有空間的球隊提供的合約,而母隊則有72小時可以決定 是否要跟進。 Batum, who will leave for France on Friday, declined to comment. Calls to Ndiaye were not returned, and Kahn also did not return a phone message. 無論是灰狼GM Kahn、Batum經紀人Ndiaye,還有Batum本人,都沒有回應合約的事情。 After Batum met with Minnesota last weekend, Olshey requested a face-to-face meeting, and despite a sometimes acrimonious relationship with Blazers brass, Ndiaye agreed to the afternoon meeting at The Nines Hotel in downtown Portland. The Blazers were represented by Olshey, director of college scouting Chad Buchanan and salary cap specialist Joe Cronin. 在上周末Batum與灰狼的會談後,拓荒者GM Olshey希望能與Batum方來個面對面的會談, 儘管Ndiaye一直對拓荒者的制服組都沒甚麼好話,他還是答應了拓荒者面談的要求, 拓荒者方派出的代表有GM Olshey、球探Buchanan,以及薪資空間專家Joe Cronin。 "We appreciated the face-to-face meeting to get our message across," Olshey said. "And that message was that we intend to match any offer and we will not facilitate any sign-and-trade scenarios." Olshey說:我們很感謝有這個面對面的機會可以把我們的心意傳達給Batum,我們告訴他 我們會跟進所有報價,也不會促成任何先簽後換的交易,我們就是要留住Batum。 Viewed as a still-emerging talent, Batum averaged 13.9 points, 4.6 rebounds and 1.4 assists in 30.4 minutes for the Blazers last season. He is targeted as the Blazers' starting small forward next season, when he likely would take on a bigger offensive role while remaining one of the team's better, and more versatile, defenders. Batum目前還是被視為持續成長中的潛力球員,上球季平均每場上場30.4分鐘,13.9分, 4.6籃板,以及1.4次助攻,他被拓荒者視為是下一季的先發小前鋒,他在球隊的進攻 地位可能更為吃重,更別提他早就是球隊防守方面數一數二重要的球員了。 In January, the two sides let a deadline pass to extend Batum's contract, as the Blazers conveyed to Batum that they were committed to him, but waiting to sign him gave them greater free agent flexibility. 在一月的時候,拓荒者放過直接與Batum續約的機會,拓荒者對此的解釋是:他們仍然 會與Batum續約,只是當時不續對後續的自由市場操作會更為有利。 The Blazers have about $16.5 million in cap space to sign free agents, and they have a verbal agreement to sign restricted free agent center Roy Hibbert to a four-year, $58 million deal, provided Indiana does not match. The Blazers could land both Hibbert and Batum if Hibbert signs his offer sheet first because the Blazers own Batum's Bird Rights, meaning they can go over their salary cap to re-sign him. 此話怎麼說呢?看看現在吧,拓荒者有大約16.5M的空間可以簽自由球員,而他們已經與 溜馬的中鋒Roy Hibbert達成了4年58M的口頭協議,如果溜馬選擇不跟進的話, 那麼拓荒者就有機會可以先簽下Hibbert然後再簽下Batum,因為拓荒者擁有Batum的鳥權, 這讓他們可以不用管薪資上限的問題而簽下他。 目前的情況看起來是還蠻樂觀的,就像Olshey講的,之前不簽Batum的情況就跟去年他 在快艇時DeAndre Jordan的情況一樣,只是為了之後更加有利的情況的操作,至於Batum方 的放話我覺得幾乎都是經紀人的操作,身為經紀人他當然想要他的球員能賺越多越好, 所以才會常常抱怨拓荒者不夠尊重啦,跑去灰狼抬高身價啦之類的,但是Batum本人一直都 沒有想要離開過吧,他也說過他確定拓荒者有99%的機率會跟他續約,所以一切都是因為 薪資空間的設計。 拓荒者如果很早就跟他續約,則Batum佔有的cap hold可能就是8M 10M甚至12M,而非 現在QO的5.4M而已,這一來一往5~8M的差距就會讓我們的薪資空間下降到10M左右而已, 那麼現在可能就無力跟Hibbert報價了。 J.J.Hickson的情況我覺得也類似,拓荒者如果給他QO,那麼可運用的薪資空間也只剩 下10~12M左右,馬後炮來看,這樣也不行開給Hibbert合約,所以只好先不給他QO, 然後之後再尋求簽回他的機會。 不知道為什麼,我是還蠻樂觀的啦XD 我覺得目前的態勢看起來還蠻不錯的, 最後成型的陣容可能是 C: Roy Hibbert /Meyers Leonard/Kurt Thomas PF: LaMarcus Aldridge/J.J.Hickson SF: Nicolas Batum/Luke Babbit SG: Wesley Matthews/Elliot Williams/Will Barton PG: Damian Lillard/Nolan Smith 剛好12人 而且除了老科湯整個就超年輕,如果後場能找個老將PG來傳授經驗就最好了 (Billups殘念QQ) 希望最後結果會比我想像中的還好!!! 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07/06 12:01, , 1F
現在到底是怎樣!!!ˋˊ
07/06 12:01, 1F

07/06 12:02, , 2F
Billups 結果超便宜的!!> <"
07/06 12:02, 2F

07/06 12:26, , 3F
謝謝翻譯 真的很希望82能夠留在拓荒者阿
07/06 12:26, 3F

07/06 12:27, , 4F
Batum是我關注拓荒者的動力...
07/06 12:27, 4F

07/06 12:47, , 5F
總版說灰狼提議先簽後換 D-Will+Webster先換Batum
07/06 12:47, 5F

07/06 12:47, , 6F
pg年輕點外這陣容還不錯
07/06 12:47, 6F

07/06 12:47, , 7F
遭到拒絕..
07/06 12:47, 7F

07/06 12:54, , 8F
我還是比較喜歡Batum說~
07/06 12:54, 8F

07/06 12:57, , 9F
這代表我們留Batum 的心是堅定的.XDXDXD
07/06 12:57, 9F

07/06 13:23, , 10F
推...這陣容看來不錯!! PG令人擔心一點
07/06 13:23, 10F

07/06 13:31, , 11F
最怕溜馬說不跟 結果還是跟了 就囧了
07/06 13:31, 11F

07/06 13:33, , 12F
有留就好!!
07/06 13:33, 12F

07/06 13:37, , 13F
不太對,現在Batum的cap hold應該也是10M上下
07/06 13:37, 13F

07/06 13:51, , 14F
下季88應該大爆發
07/06 13:51, 14F

07/06 13:54, , 15F
不想把Webster領回XDD DW很好但是不想出到攻守兼具的82
07/06 13:54, 15F

07/06 14:02, , 16F
推翻譯!明年重返季後賽啦!
07/06 14:02, 16F

07/06 14:13, , 17F
才不要跟灰狼換勒
07/06 14:13, 17F

07/06 14:14, , 18F
只有我覺得貴嗎...
07/06 14:14, 18F

07/06 14:34, , 19F
推翻譯!推年輕陣容!大P呢?QQ另外希望Freeland能來~~~
07/06 14:34, 19F

07/06 14:52, , 20F
to spurs 真的嗎?可是我看blazersedge是說5.4M耶
07/06 14:52, 20F

07/06 15:34, , 21F
Batum cap hold約5.XM沒錯 新人約就算狀元cap hold也頂多
07/06 15:34, 21F

07/06 15:41, , 22F
打錯了 上面第二句請忽略 重點是cap hold約5M多...
07/06 15:41, 22F

07/06 23:31, , 23F
最新消息!!Batum變成45M/4y加外bonus到50M
07/06 23:31, 23F

07/06 23:35, , 24F
基本上消息已經明確了..拓拓會跟任何報價
07/06 23:35, 24F

07/06 23:36, , 25F
水辣如果45M/4Y直接跟辣不用想 如果打出身價50M也合理辣
07/06 23:36, 25F

07/06 23:37, , 26F
45M/4 合理 一定跟!
07/06 23:37, 26F

07/06 23:37, , 27F
但Batum的心態還是個謎..
07/06 23:37, 27F

07/06 23:38, , 28F
到底是本人?經紀人?女友? 放話不想待拓拓
07/06 23:38, 28F

07/06 23:38, , 29F
西瓜走了 加上他有先發位子應該OK吧
07/06 23:38, 29F

07/06 23:42, , 30F
另一方面溜馬還沒決定要不要跟..也預備好備胎KKman了
07/06 23:42, 30F

07/06 23:44, , 31F
還有McGee..我不想看到拓拓最後簽McGee = =
07/06 23:44, 31F

07/06 23:50, , 32F
MCGee 應該會留金塊~~!!!....跟吧~~
07/06 23:50, 32F

07/06 23:50, , 33F
82之前也説過拓荒者99%會把他留下來,如果他真的不想留
07/06 23:50, 33F

07/06 23:51, , 34F
應該就會像狗蛋這樣放話了,而不是只有經紀人説而已吧
07/06 23:51, 34F

07/06 23:55, , 35F
我可不要下季看Babbit 先發..XD..拜託了
07/06 23:55, 35F

07/06 23:56, , 36F
的確有很多來源提到82不想待..但本人倒是很低調
07/06 23:56, 36F

07/06 23:58, , 37F
Babbit真的在板凳上噴噴三分就好了XD
07/06 23:58, 37F

07/06 23:58, , 38F
尤其是這次S&T破局爆出來之後..不想待也沒選擇XD
07/06 23:58, 38F

07/06 23:58, , 39F
老實說Mcgee我覺得很ok 不會太貴而且可幫AGG很大
07/06 23:58, 39F

07/07 00:00, , 40F
總之這次拓拓的誠意的確做足了..82方面應該也很清楚了!
07/07 00:00, 40F

07/07 00:07, , 41F
McGee也是RFA..要搶也要金塊點頭 一樣不容易...
07/07 00:07, 41F

07/07 00:11, , 42F
至少Mcgee 10M我想就夠金塊考慮了 Roy可是要出到14M的
07/07 00:11, 42F

07/07 00:14, , 43F
KKman也可以考慮 不過有傷病疑慮
07/07 00:14, 43F

07/07 00:16, , 44F
好像沒消息阿拓有接觸Kaman 只有溜馬去打聽
07/07 00:16, 44F

07/07 00:17, , 45F
寧願要Mcgee阿 年輕陣容一起成長阿
07/07 00:17, 45F

07/07 00:17, , 46F
阿拓的plan b預計是McGee沒錯..一樣還沒接觸
07/07 00:17, 46F

07/07 00:18, , 47F
Mcgee有籃板有火鍋 身體素質又超優 還有天份擺在那
07/07 00:18, 47F

07/07 00:19, , 48F
阿拓不知道在有信心什麼..其他球團都有在接觸球員
07/07 00:19, 48F

07/07 00:19, , 49F
搞得我們好像大城市一樣..很怕最後空有現金阿@@
07/07 00:19, 49F

07/07 00:20, , 50F
另外尼克想利用阿拓S&T肥頓..換來TD和現金跟雜魚2枚
07/07 00:20, 50F

07/07 00:21, , 51F
McGee我可以
07/07 00:21, 51F

07/07 00:23, , 52F
尼克不會要Felton吧 我猜會跟Lin的7m+替補kidd
07/07 00:23, 52F

07/07 00:23, , 53F
可能不要TD嗎,寧願直接換選秀簽就好了~
07/07 00:23, 53F

07/07 00:25, , 54F
希望我們陣容在多一個穩定砍分的第六人~
07/07 00:25, 54F

07/07 00:26, , 55F
如果真的要Felton尼克實在沒啥菜......
07/07 00:26, 55F

07/07 00:27, , 56F
第六人就是OJ了阿!!不然搞來小AI阿 看他房子都賣又簽Nick
07/07 00:27, 56F

07/07 00:29, , 57F
若要跟尼克換,直接換選秀簽就好了
07/07 00:29, 57F

07/07 00:29, , 58F
O.J放話要比中產高(好弱XD)追求者多眾多依舊沒有阿拓XD
07/07 00:29, 58F

07/07 00:31, , 59F
被提到的太陽.火箭.溜馬.黃蜂薪資空間也都不少
07/07 00:31, 59F

07/07 00:31, , 60F
剩下沒有幾隊,缺先發控衛了,小牛??
07/07 00:31, 60F

07/07 00:31, , 61F
8M很OK阿 我實在不懂不要的意思 還有除了火箭跟溜馬剩下不
07/07 00:31, 61F

07/07 00:32, , 62F
會想花太多在這隻身上
07/07 00:32, 62F

07/07 00:33, , 63F
阿拓可以給他先發SG和錢阿阿 溜馬跟火箭可能都不行
07/07 00:33, 63F

07/07 00:42, , 64F
阿拓的思維我不懂XD 不過說實在馬修也堪用了拉
07/07 00:42, 64F

07/07 00:44, , 65F
到目前為止不知道錢到底想用在哪..大物都快撿光了
07/07 00:44, 65F

07/07 00:50, , 66F
老實說市場大物我們最需要的就是這兩隻 只要穩穩的跟就可
07/07 00:50, 66F

07/07 00:51, , 67F
然後槍吸實在是拿不到 可惜的就是尻佛變空氣了
07/07 00:51, 67F

07/07 00:58, , 68F
其實我門陣容本來就缺C 和PG..
07/07 00:58, 68F

07/07 01:00, , 69F
PG跟C這兩個位置就莫再提了..一個傷痛詛咒 一個RankA
07/07 01:00, 69F

07/07 01:03, , 70F
Claver要回來!看數據像是2000萬(R.Lewis)....
07/07 01:03, 70F

07/07 03:14, , 71F
管別人怎麼酸,別人酸我們就不選了嗎,當然要選c.pg啊!!
07/07 03:14, 71F
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