[News] Offseason Outlook: Toronto Blue Jays

看板Blue_Jays作者 (Sudba tseloveka)時間17年前 (2008/10/04 11:14), 編輯推噓18(18043)
留言61則, 10人參與, 最新討論串1/1
http://tinyurl.com/3lbanl Next up in our Offseason Outlook series, the Blue Jays. Here's the roster: C - Rod Barajas - $2.5MM (club option) C - Curtis Thigpen - $400K 1B - Lyle Overbay - $7MM 2B - Aaron Hill - $2.59MM (cleared for physical activity in October?) SS - Marco Scutaro - $1.1MM 3B - Scott Rolen - $11MM IF - John McDonald - $1.9MM IF - Jose Bautista - $1.8MM+ IF/OF - Joe Inglett - $400K LF - Travis Snider - $400K CF - Vernon Wells - $10MM RF - Alex Rios - $5.9MM DH - Adam Lind - $400K SP - Roy Halladay - $14.25MM SP - Jesse Litsch - $400K+ SP - Dustin McGowan - $404K (shoulder surgery July '08) SP - Casey Janssen - $404K (shoulder surgery March '08) SP - David Purcey - $400K RP - B.J. Ryan - $10MM RP/SP - Scott Downs - $3.75MM RP - Jesse Carlson - $400K RP - Jason Frasor - $1.125MM+ RP - Brian Tallet - $640K+ RP - Jeremy Accardo - $400K RP - Brandon League - $400K+ Other bullpen candidates: Brian Wolfe - $400K, Shawn Camp - $412K+ Other rotation candidates: Scott Downs, Ricky Romero, Brett Cecil I have the Jays with about $80MM committed plus arbitration raises to Bautista, Litsch, Frasor, and League. After that they'll still be under $85MM. The Blue Jays entered '08 with a $98MM payroll, so they should have over $13MM+ to spend . '09 payroll will apparently be "appropriate, but not significantly higher" than in '08. Let's start with the rotation. Looks shaky, which shows you how quickly starting pitching depth can evaporate. The Jays will need one of McGowan and Janssen to return successfully from shoulder surgery, or for Downs to convert successfully back to starting. They'd look a lot better with another veteran starter. But do the math - if payroll stays the same the Jays will barely be able to squeeze in A.J. Burnett at $15-18MM. I don't see Burnett remaining with the Jays. The Blue Jays had a below-average offense in 2008. Maybe full seasons of Wells , Lind, Hill, and Snider can remedy that. The clearest position to upgrade via free agency is shortstop, where Rafael Furcal is tempting. A DH type like Milton Bradley, Jason Giambi, or Raul Ibanez could work if the Jays don't mind sitting Snider or Lind. Toronto seems to have a surplus in the bullpen, though not as much if Downs goes to the rotation. If he stays in the pen, J.P. Ricciardi should aggressively shop Ryan. Ryan at two years, $20MM looks decent in a weak closer market. That'd free up $10MM in '09 payroll without weakening the team much. With that the Jays might be able to afford Furcal plus a free agent starter. Even then they'd need a lot of things to go right to snag a playoff spot in 2009. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.5.3

10/04 13:17, , 1F
我覺得還是從農場養球員比較划算。
10/04 13:17, 1F

10/04 14:06, , 2F
不想要Furcal
10/04 14:06, 2F

10/04 17:30, , 3F
其實打線不受傷的話. 應該還是可以看阿.
10/04 17:30, 3F

10/04 22:47, , 4F
我覺得我們需要的是大砲 不是先鋒 雖然Furcal很強
10/04 22:47, 4F

10/04 22:47, , 5F
可是畢竟不是最需要的
10/04 22:47, 5F

10/05 03:52, , 6F
我對打線的補強感到悲觀...真的像Manny之類巨砲不但付不起
10/05 03:52, 6F

10/05 03:54, , 7F
簽太多年又把payroll綁死...那以後除非payroll增加 可以用
10/05 03:54, 7F

10/05 03:57, , 8F
金太少 那後幾年都不用補了吧...
10/05 03:57, 8F

10/05 04:00, , 9F
上面提到的Bradley這些"假巨砲" 突然變爛那也不意外...
10/05 04:00, 9F

10/05 04:02, , 10F
反正就是無法確定你買到什麼... 但如果決定要賭的話最好是
10/05 04:02, 10F

10/05 04:04, , 11F
短約就好... 如果能基本薪資低加incentive那最好...
10/05 04:04, 11F

10/05 04:07, , 12F
但是市場上應該沒有那麼好康的事... 所以大概就是死路一條
10/05 04:07, 12F

10/05 04:12, , 13F
我希望不管怎樣 don't give in to BIG and LONG contracts
10/05 04:12, 13F

10/05 04:14, , 14F
大不了不補 繼續賭賭看現有的打線會不會大爆炸...
10/05 04:14, 14F

10/05 04:17, , 15F
這個lineup表現得實在跟可以做到的差太多了...如果我們相信
10/05 04:17, 15F

10/05 04:20, , 16F
司馬季主的話...那麼期待一下物極必反應該也不太過份
10/05 04:20, 16F

10/05 04:22, , 17F
其實SP的補強也一樣 亂簽長約來不如不簽...
10/05 04:22, 17F

10/05 04:24, , 18F
JP的眼光那麼差 乾脆不要有什麼動作 等著被火就好了...XD
10/05 04:24, 18F

10/05 04:29, , 19F
只能期待: 整隊大爆發,老闆增資 不然就是農場的玻璃變鑽石
10/05 04:29, 19F

10/05 14:26, , 20F
同樣的打線成績要比今年差很難啦...除非整隊中邪
10/05 14:26, 20F

10/06 15:53, , 21F
怎麼沒有 Macum??
10/06 15:53, 21F

10/07 04:23, , 22F
對於補強打線,我也不看好;不是由於JP,而是市場的FA大物我
10/07 04:23, 22F

10/07 04:26, , 23F
們買不起。至於數年前的簽AJ,BJ;拿到Glaus和Overbay不知道算
10/07 04:26, 23F

10/07 04:27, , 24F
是誰的功勞?
10/07 04:27, 24F

10/07 04:33, , 25F
明年的打擊成績應該會回勇;Wells,Rios和Overbay有20HR的打
10/07 04:33, 25F

10/07 04:36, , 26F
績能力,加上Hill和Lind的年輕棒子,Rolen和Barajas的約10HR
10/07 04:36, 26F

10/07 04:37, , 27F
輔佐,打擊成績可以期待。反而是要留意在傷患出現的時候的安
10/07 04:37, 27F

10/07 04:38, , 28F
排:今年有Lind和Inglett的冒起,分擔了一些本來是大痛和Reed
10/07 04:38, 28F

10/07 04:40, , 29F
Johnson的貢獻;如果明年有類似的問題時候誰來頂替。
10/07 04:40, 29F

10/07 04:41, , 30F
Lind和Purcey也是Wells和Litsch休整時冒起的。明年我們農場
10/07 04:41, 30F

10/07 04:43, , 31F
能不能提供後備打擊力。
10/07 04:43, 31F

10/07 04:46, , 32F
但現在Gaston,JP和另外九名球員(BJ,Halladay,Wells,Overbay
10/07 04:46, 32F

10/07 04:48, , 33F
等)的約在2010賽季后到期,看來是臨尾大推的成分居多。
10/07 04:48, 33F

10/07 04:52, , 34F
更正:不包括wells(版主:為何不能修改留言?)
10/07 04:52, 34F

10/07 10:02, , 35F
我不知道耶,我沒改過啥設定
10/07 10:02, 35F

10/07 10:04, , 36F
修改留言應該是發文者本人可以修改
10/07 10:04, 36F

10/07 10:04, , 37F
推文的話聽說是不能修
10/07 10:04, 37F

10/07 13:13, , 38F
最近我在幻想JJ Hardy跟Saltalamacchia 剛好酒人跟遊騎兵
10/07 13:13, 38F

10/07 13:13, , 39F
都缺投手 不知道有沒有機會換到.
10/07 13:13, 39F

10/07 13:18, , 40F
問題是我們也缺投手吧...一堆傷兵... ~"~
10/07 13:18, 40F

10/07 13:28, , 41F
Salty來要放哪? 捕手? 一壘? DH?
10/07 13:28, 41F

10/07 13:28, , 42F
倒是哈滴可以拼拼看
10/07 13:28, 42F

10/07 15:46, , 43F
要換Salty應該就順手把Barajas丟出去吧 有穩定的C也
10/07 15:46, 43F

10/07 15:46, , 44F
是好事 不過Hardy應該還是比較前面的選擇
10/07 15:46, 44F

10/07 15:46, , 45F
我們農場可能沒深到兩個人都撈得下來
10/07 15:46, 45F

10/07 17:01, , 46F
簽下AJ是Arnsberg的功勞 簽下哈迪那今年打出的Inglett
10/07 17:01, 46F

10/07 17:01, , 47F
不就沒有任何意義了?
10/07 17:01, 47F

10/07 18:43, , 48F
怎會沒意義?
10/07 18:43, 48F

10/07 18:44, , 49F
Hill短期不會回來 他可以守2B
10/07 18:44, 49F

10/07 22:11, , 50F
說真的,我想Hill守遊擊
10/07 22:11, 50F

10/07 23:05, , 51F
Hill還不知道要多久才能回到場上,即使回到場上,也不知道多
10/07 23:05, 51F

10/07 23:05, , 52F
久才能恢復應有的身手
10/07 23:05, 52F

10/07 23:52, , 53F
Hill怎麼了阿?
10/07 23:52, 53F

10/08 00:55, , 54F
Salty和Hardy都還年輕 可以被球團控制很久 要換的話對方也
10/08 00:55, 54F

10/08 00:57, , 55F
會要同樣年輕的投手 而且是有潛力沒開發出的...
10/08 00:57, 55F

10/08 00:58, , 56F
但我們哪來這樣的可以換?
10/08 00:58, 56F

10/08 01:06, , 57F
我覺得就跟這篇說的一樣 看來BJ我們手上少有的籌碼...
10/08 01:06, 57F

10/08 01:09, , 58F
而且牛棚應該比較健全 所以真有好的deal那交易吧
10/08 01:09, 58F

10/08 01:11, , 59F
不過我不是說要拿BJ換Salty或Hardy 是一般而言
10/08 01:11, 59F

10/08 04:01, , 60F
我們也有一票年輕的好投手吧 並且BJ跳了就沒法用來換
10/08 04:01, 60F

10/08 04:02, , 61F
不對 夜深了 我把BJ看成AJ......= =
10/08 04:02, 61F
文章代碼(AID): #18vj-poM (Blue_Jays)
文章代碼(AID): #18vj-poM (Blue_Jays)