【John Sickels】ATL 2013 Top 20 prospects

看板Braves作者 (嘴砲型的效率)時間13年前 (2012/11/09 14:57), 編輯推噓6(6019)
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相關說明及原文網站http://tinyurl.com/d8je5oq 有夠慘~~ 連B+的都沒有 而且直接把Graham跳到Teheran前面去了...XD 1) J.R. Graham, RHP, Grade B: I really like him and I'm actually more confident that he'll reach his ceiling than Teheran will reach his, which is why I've got him a shade above Teheran although Teheran is younger. Plus stuff, very athletic, good statistical profile add up for me. 2) Julio Teheran, RHP, Grade B: I think this is a generous grade, but given his youth I also think his problems are fixable as long as there is not an underlying health issue. Choosing between Teheran and Graham at #1 on this list is a very tough call. 3) Alex Wood, LHP, Grade B-: Borderline B. Unconventional but it works, had some excellent outings and should move quickly through the system. This grade may go up a notch but I have a couple more things to review first. 4) Luke Sims, RHP, Grade B-: Borderline B. Seems like a very solid high school pitching prospect to me. I really don't see ace upside, but project him as a solid mid-rotation guy if it all comes together, if he stays healthy, etc. 5) Zeke Spruill, RHP, Grade B-: For me, his stock is unchanged from last year but the thinner nature of the system moves him up the standings. Still see him as a number four/back-end starter but I think he needs a full year in Triple-A. 6) Sean Gilmartin, LHP, Grade B-: Solid command guy but upside is relatively limited and I also see him as a number four starter. But that's not an insult. Will be ready sooner than Spruill. 7) Nick Ahmed, SS, Grade B-: I like him better than the pure stats. Solid glove, solid baserunner, might start showing more power at some point, makeup a plus. 8) Mauricio Cabrera, RHP, Grade B-: Needs to refine breaking ball and sharpen command, but pitched well in the Appy League and has one of the highest upsides in the system. Candidate to move well up the list in 2013. 9) Tommy La Stella, 2B, Grade B-: I love this guy: pure hitter with superb plate discipline/contact skills, gap power, and underrated glove. Unconventional approach turns some scouts off and we do need to see him at higher levels, but he should not be underestimated. 10) Jose Peraza, SS, Grade B-: Impressive tools, especially on defense, and his ability to make contact stands out. Early in his career, grade could go considerably higher in a year or two. On pure tools, would rank higher than La Stella, but also has a greater chance of failure. 11) Aaron Northcraft, RHP, Grade B-: Doesn't excite scouts, but K/IP shot way up this year and he gets a huge number of ground balls, all markers of a significant sleeper. 12) Cody Martin, RHP, Grade B-: Borderline C+: Control artist out of Gonzaga was part of very successful Lynchburg rotation. 13) Evan Gattis, OF-C, Grade C+: Borderline B-. I have really struggled with this grade. I believe in the bat, but at age 26 it is difficult to grade and rank him. You can make a case to place him as high as 7th with a B- grade. This is quite preliminary and I may bump him up by book time. 14) Edward Salcedo, 3B, Grade C+: Would rank higher on pure tools, but continues to hamper himself with a poor approach at the plate. Arizona Fall League scouts noted indifferent effort on defense and generally weak instincts all-around. Young enough to improve substantially but there is a lot of work to do. 15) William Beckwith, 1B, Grade C+: Doesn't receive a lot of attention outside of Braves circles, but an interesting player. Good athlete for his size, left-side power, plate discipline needs some work but someone to watch closely. 16) Christian Bethancourt, C, Grade C+: Another guy who would rank higher on pure tools. Very impressive defense but his bat is awful and several sources regard it as hopeless. Saving grace is youth. He could be a late-bloomer but that might be seven years from now. 17) David Hale, RHP, Grade C+: Live arm, continues to make incremental progress harnessing it. Could see him in the majors in '13 as emergency starter or in the bullpen. 18) Luis Merejo, LHP, Grade C+: Could plausibly rank as high as 11th depending on how you want to balance risk/upside/distance from the majors. Bargain signing at $65,000, not a big guy but looked solid in rookie ball low 90s, throws strikes, and has a promising breaking ball. 19) Navery Moore, RHP, Grade C+: Live arm from Vanderbilt, still adding polish to his game after injury-plagued college career. Step forward possible in '13. 20) Todd Cunningham, OF, Grade C+: I like the speed and defense, another guy who could easily rank eight or nine spots higher. Lack of power keeps him from being a premium prospect but he could have a long career as a fourth outfielder. 21) Josh Elander, C, Grade C+: This might be too low. I like his bat, not sure about the glove. 22) Joey Terdoslavich, 1B, Grade C+: Not as bad as he looked in Triple-A, but it will be hard to find a place to play him. OTHERS: John Cornely, RHP; Brandon Drury, 3B; Carlos Franco, 3B; Ryne Harper, RHP; Ross Heffley, 2B; Nathan Hyatt, RHP, Juan Jaime, RHP; Kyle Kubitza, 3B; Matt Lipka, OF, Mark Lamm, RHP; Joe Leonard, 3B; Connor Lien, OF; Gary Moran, RHP; David Peterson, RHP; Carlos Perez, LHP; Williams Perez, RHP; Cory Rasmus, RHP; Wilson Rivera, RHP; Patrick Scoggin, RHP; Gus Schlosser, RHP. I really struggled with this organization and have spent more than a week trying to rank these guys. But at some point I have to give up trying to make it perfect and just publish the damn thing. This system has thinned out but it isn't as bad as I thought it was on my first look-thru. The top six are pretty clear to me (although I've gone back and forth on Graham/Teheran at the top), but after that you can come up with a few dozen ways to plausibly rank these guys. Many, many of the grades are borderline calls, right in the B-/C+ zone, and I expect some of these grades will change by the time the book is ready to publish. I again emphasize that grades are always a shorthand. The organization still has considerable depth in pitching. Although nobody here has a perfect profile, the Braves have more arm depth than a lot of systems. Hitting is much thinner. There are guys with very impressive tools (Salcedo, Bethancourt) who can't hit, or at least they haven't hit yet. Braves partisans think they will, but sources outside the organization are much more doubtful, especially about Bethancourt. There are some guys who can hit (Beckwith, La Stella in particular) but who don't have plus tools. Gattis is a real quandary from an analytical perspective due to his age, but the more I study him, the more I like him. Looking at the 2012 draft, I like the one/two pitching punch of Luke Sims and Alex Wood at the top. I also like eighth round pick Dave Peterson as a reliever who could move quickly through the system, as could 13th round pick Nathan Hyatt and 15th round pick Alex Wilson. I am much less impressed with the hitting. The Braves drafted several athletes with questionable bats. Third round pick Bryan de la Rosa has very impressive defensive tools behind the plate, but was helpless against rookie ball pitching. Scouting reports about his bat from non-Braves sources are just as bad as his numbers. He's young enough to improve but it will take a lot of time if it happens at all. Fourth round pick Justin Black is a toolsy outfielder from Montana; like de la Rosa, both stats and scouting reports about his hitting skills are negative at this point and he's already 19, which makes a difference when plotting out his risk/reward curve. I saw fifth round pick Blake Brown play at the University of Missouri. The story is similar here: great athlete, good tools, but looked lost at the plate in college, unable to handle below average breaking balls. I see no objective or subjective reason to expect a quick turnaround in pro ball. I am much more impressed with sixth round pick Josh Elander, another college guy I'm very familiar with. He is much more polished than Brown and has a decent set of tools himself although it remains to be seen if he's a catcher or an outfielder. I also think 12th round outfielder Connor Lien should be watched very closely. He is raw and has some issues with his hitting approach, but I think he has a better chance than de la Rosa or Black to figure out what he's doing. He's still a five-year project though. 16th round pick Fernelys Sanchez needs to get further past his spring leg injury before we can get a valid read on either his tools or skills. 18th round pick Ross Heffley isn't toolsy but performed well making a direct jump to Low-A and will likely end up being a better baseball player than several of the athletes drafted ahead of him. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 210.69.124.39 ※ 編輯: Roawen 來自: 210.69.124.39 (11/09 14:58)

11/09 15:03, , 1F
今年比較不一樣的是尾段講了好多2012選秀的心得
11/09 15:03, 1F

11/09 16:03, , 2F
你可以把今年的去年的比較一下, 就知道為什麼沒有B+
11/09 16:03, 2F

11/09 16:09, , 3F
那我改成說:竟然還有12個B字頭的 真是慶幸 慶幸啊!!
11/09 16:09, 3F

11/09 16:13, , 4F
比較正面的地方應該是明年可以上來幫忙的就有不少人
11/09 16:13, 4F

11/09 16:14, , 5F
Teheran, Graham, Gilmartin, Gattis, Hale
11/09 16:14, 5F

11/09 16:16, , 6F
的確現在是沒甚麼很高影響力的prospects, 不過去年
11/09 16:16, 6F

11/09 16:17, , 7F
那張單子前四名, 畢業兩個, 交易一個, 一個退步
11/09 16:17, 7F

11/09 16:19, , 8F
Graham如果能再磨練他的滑球/變速球, 天花板再往上
11/09 16:19, 8F

11/09 16:19, , 9F
抬也是很有可能. 這才是他第一個職業的完整球季
11/09 16:19, 9F

11/09 16:22, , 10F
倒是這份單子對Spruill, Gattis跟Northcraft的預測
11/09 16:22, 10F

11/09 16:23, , 11F
比我想像中的樂觀
11/09 16:23, 11F

11/09 16:26, , 12F
遠程來說Cabrera, Peraza, Wood跟Sims都還蠻有看頭的
11/09 16:26, 12F

11/09 16:27, , 13F
如果季後沒簽下Bourn/Upton/Swisher的話, 多一個1S簽
11/09 16:27, 13F

11/09 16:46, , 14F
我是感覺Sickels一向對勇士蠻友善 畢竟他是偏數據派
11/09 16:46, 14F

11/09 16:47, , 15F
如果勇士這農場被BA,BP這種重視talent,tools的來評
11/09 16:47, 15F

11/09 16:49, , 16F
應該會很慘...
11/09 16:49, 16F

11/09 16:56, , 17F
如果說Sickels對勇士農場評價較友善, 而這群prospect
11/09 16:56, 17F

11/09 16:56, , 18F
也真的可以長起來, 那代表的是他的預測是對的
11/09 16:56, 18F

11/09 16:57, , 19F
而不是過於樂觀吧.
11/09 16:57, 19F

11/09 17:26, , 20F
不會啦..重視talent跟tools的..Selcedo&Bethancourt
11/09 17:26, 20F

11/09 17:26, , 21F
就爬上來了..而且今年的農場慘也算是預料中事
11/09 17:26, 21F

11/09 17:27, , 22F
畢竟名單裡面一狗票都是這兩年選進的
11/09 17:27, 22F

11/09 17:27, , 23F
我們這兩年也不是什麼高順位的選秀.
11/09 17:27, 23F

11/09 17:49, , 24F
1Lineup裡面還有三個明年開季還是23歲的主力
11/09 17:49, 24F

11/09 18:11, , 25F
不過Terdoslavich真的很尷尬..1B被Freeman卡住了
11/09 18:11, 25F
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