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[閒聊] Braves are paying the price and What

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原文發表在The Atlanta Journal-Constitution By Michael Cunningham 一般來說 ajc 的文章複製網址貼到browser，通常第一篇可以看得到啦…. https://tinyurl.com/hjsdbfux 內文就不多提了，我想說的就是….. What if …… In a multi-universe, AA renewed the contract of FF prior to the 2021 season desp ite of the financial difficulty raised by the Covid-shortened 2020 season…….. The difference between the annual salaries of these two players is just a few mi llion….. sign….. ———————————- Braves paying the price for committing long-term to Marcell Ozuna 050622 Atlanta: Atlanta Braves left fielder Marcell Ozuna reacts as he leaves th e field as the Braves’ lost to the Milwaukee Brewers 6-3 at Truist Park on Frid ay, May 6, 2022, in Atlanta. (Jason Getz / Jason.Getz@ajc.com) Caption Credit: Jason Getz / Jason.Getz@ajc.com MIKE CHECK BLOG By Michael Cunningham, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution 2 hours ago Josh Donaldson was great for the Braves as a short-term rental in 2019. He produ ced big numbers as a hitter, was sharp at third base and energized the clubhouse with his amiable cockiness. General manager Alex Anthopoulos decided that, as a long-term investment, Donaldson was too risky. The Braves aren’t in the habit of give contracts of multiple years to older players. Explore More AJC coverage of the Braves Donaldson signed for big money with the Twins. To replace his bat in the lineup, Anthopoulos signed Marcell Ozuna. He also was great as a short-term rental, exc ept it turned out he wasn’t that. Anthopoulos signed Ozuna to a four-year, $65 million contract in February 2021, with a team option to pick up a fifth year. There’s a near-zero chance that $16 million option will be exercised when the t ime comes. The Braves probably wish they could get out from under what’s left o f Ozuna’s $16 million salary this season and the $32 million due over the next two. Anthopoulos made an exception to his usual practice by signing Ozuna to tha t contract. All signs indicate it’s going to cost the Braves for a while. Ozuna has played in 92 of 207 possible games since the start of last season (all statistics are before games this weekend). He’s hit .222 with a .280 on-base p ercentage over that time with a minus-0.5 Fangraphs Wins Above Replacement. Ozun a has more strikeouts (88) than hits (80) during that span. His .657 on-base plu s since the start of 2021 would be sixth-worst in the majors if he had enough at -bats to qualify. There’s no sign of a turnaround for Ozuna. This season he’s hitting .231. Only 54 major leaguers are doing worse. Ozuna’s .270 on-base percentage is better t han just 19 players. Ozuna is not hitting the ball nearly as hard as he did two seasons ago, he’s swinging at more pitches outside of the strike zone and he’s walking less often. There’s no silver lining in sight for Ozuna. Sign up for AJC’s Braves Report for latest news on your team SIGN UP I agree to the Visitor Agreement and Privacy Policy. Ozuna’s 2020 season is looking like a 60-game outlier rather than a sign of his resurgence. That was the risk when Anthopoulos signed Ozuna to a long-term deal . Ozuna had been an All-Star with the Marlins, solid with the Cardinals and then great with the Braves. Anthopoulos re-signed Ozuna based on the premise that he ’d produce like he did for Miami and the Braves. Instead, Ozuna now is one of t he worst everyday players in MLB. During 2020 spring training, Ozuna said he hoped to stick with the Braves for lo nger than one season. That seemed unlikely. The Braves were stacked with good, y oung talent in the outfield. Ronald Acuna was the 2018 NL Rookie of the Year and a 2019 All-Star. The top prospects in the organization then were outfielders Cr istian Pache and Drew Waters. All three were better fielders than Ozuna. Ozuna’s big season in 2020 meant he was going to get a long-term deal in free a gency. It didn’t seem as if the Braves would be the team to pay. They declined to do it with Donaldson. He singed with the Twins for $92 million over four year s. Donaldson wasn’t nearly as good for Minnesota as he was with the Braves. The Twins traded Donaldson to the Yankees in March and he’s been pretty good this season. Ozuna was 30 years old after the 2000 season, not 33 like Donaldson was after hi s Braves’ tenure. The designated hitter was coming to the NL soon. That would m ean the Braves could get Ozuna’s bat in the lineup while keeping him out out th e field. But Ozuna still didn’t seem to be the veteran that Anthopoulos would c ommit future years to sign. The decision to do so immediately went south for Ant hopoulos. Ozuna was struggling to produce when he went on the injured list in May 2021. So on after that he was arrested on allegations of domestic violence. Later, MLB pl aced him on administrative leave while it investigated. The league retroactively suspended Ozuna for 20 games, but he avoided further discipline. That seemed to be a break for the Braves, but Ozuna has become a big drag on the lineup. Spending on free agents can be very inefficient. Anthopoulos usually limits the risk by sticking to short-term deals. That’s a prudent approach for a GM who wi ll never be able to spend Dodgers or Mets money and who inherited a strong farm system. Before Ozuna, the strategy worked for Anthopoulos. Anthopoulos signed left-hander Dallas Keuchel during the 2019 season. Keuchel we nt on to compile the second-best ERA among Braves starters. Donaldson led the Br aves in WAR during the 2019 season. Anthopoulos signed right-hander Charlie Mort on to a one-year extension in September. Morton hasn’t been as good this season as he was in 2021. If he doesn’t turn things around, then at least the Braves won’t have to pay him beyond this season. Ozuna’s contract is a blunder that won’t be so easy to undo. Now the question is whether Ozuna’s salary will become dead weight for a payroll that can’t aff ord much of it. Among Braves players, only Morton ($20 million) is making more than Ozuna ($16 m illion) this season. Ozuna’s $16 million salary for 2023 is third-highest for B raves players under contract behind Matt Olson ($21 million) and Acuna ($17 mill ion). If Ozuna can’t start producing then the options are bench him and essenti ally eat his salary, designate him for assignment and eat his salary or trade hi m while (likely) eating a lot of his salary. I’ll never say a player can’t be traded. I learned that lesson in the summer o f 2012 when ex-Hawks general manager unloaded Joe Johnson’s onerous contract. B ut it’s hard to see Ozuna having much value on the market. Ozuna is 31 with one really good season back in 2017 and has a domestic-violence arrest on his ledge r. The Braves are pretty much stuck hoping that Ozuna somehow becomes at least a solid major leaguer again. Every GM makes mistakes. Anthopoulos hasn’t made many big errors while engineer ing several shrewd moves. Signing Donaldson to a one-year deal was one of them. Replacing him with Ozuna on a similar deal was another. Then Anthopoulos broke t he pattern of short-term deals to re-sign Ozuna. That mistake is still costing t he Braves. -- A Historic moment... May 30, 2003 Atlanta 5, NY Mets 2 at Shea Stadium Winning Pitcher - Greg Maddux (4-5) Losing Pitcher - Tom Glavine (5-5) SV - John Smoltz(20) HR - C. Jones (9, off Glavine) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.36.194.63 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Braves/M.1653695887.A.488.html
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05/28 10:42, 2年前 , 1F
當初情況不明下，續了Ozuna就表示沒想留FF啊
05/28 10:42, 1F
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05/28 10:49, 2年前 , 2F
應該不是這樣吧？
05/28 10:49, 2F
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05/28 11:01, 2年前 , 3F
2020差一點就打進WS,續約ozuna拼2021很合理
05/28 11:01, 3F
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05/28 11:04, 2年前 , 4F
應該不表示Ozuna和FF只能留一個。而且今年也證實我
05/28 11:04, 4F
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05/28 11:04, 2年前 , 5F
們報給FF的價格是合理的，沒有被Ozuna卡到預算。
05/28 11:04, 5F
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05/28 11:06, 2年前 , 6F
單純就是Ozuna太貴了 要是他一年6M球迷還會GGYY嗎
05/28 11:06, 6F
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05/28 11:13, 2年前 , 7F
Ozuna這張約就是莫名啊，從簽下去就沒人叫好
05/28 11:13, 7F
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05/28 12:12, 2年前 , 8F
事前沒人知道疫情什麼時候結束，更不用說預算大漲
05/28 12:12, 8F
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05/28 12:13, 2年前 , 9F
所以蛹蛹最早開給FF的合約就是疫情價
05/28 12:13, 9F
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05/28 12:14, 2年前 , 10F
光想想看如果今年預算比2020持平或略低...
05/28 12:14, 10F
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05/28 12:14, 2年前 , 11F
就能知道簽下Ozuna這個約對FF續約的影響了
05/28 12:14, 11F
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05/28 12:25, 2年前 , 12F
當初市場上好的外野手數量不多，加上我們不碰Boras
05/28 12:25, 12F
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05/28 12:25, 2年前 , 13F
的客戶，能選擇的不多，而且他當年打的很好，簽他
05/28 12:25, 13F
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05/28 12:25, 2年前 , 14F
還算合理，壞就壞在給太多年了....
05/28 12:25, 14F
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05/28 12:27, 2年前 , 15F
然後沒想到的是....當初不想留Duvall，現在外野反
05/28 12:27, 15F
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05/28 12:27, 2年前 , 16F
而是沒Duvall不行....
05/28 12:27, 16F
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05/28 12:53, 2年前 , 17F
倒是覺得2021簽歐租沒錯，可能被他2020的成績
05/28 12:53, 17F
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05/28 12:54, 2年前 , 18F
給迷惑了，事實上誰都嘛知道完整球季他打不出那
05/28 12:54, 18F
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05/28 12:55, 2年前 , 19F
是說連續兩年FA市場都是外野不行，今年底應該會改
05/28 12:55, 19F
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05/28 12:55, 2年前 , 20F
觀了
05/28 12:55, 20F
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05/28 12:55, 2年前 , 21F
60場的成績。
05/28 12:55, 21F
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05/28 12:56, 2年前 , 22F
季前也有寫手說要送他走不是不行，但要幫吃薪水啊
05/28 12:56, 22F
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05/28 13:07, 2年前 , 23F
簽歐豬不是不行，不過那個時候市場上沒有明顯競爭者
05/28 13:07, 23F
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05/28 13:08, 2年前 , 24F
如果出一兩年約留他OK，出到64/4就有點...
05/28 13:08, 24F
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05/28 13:09, 2年前 , 25F
就像如果看到Rosa去年季後賽鬼神就給他四年大約
05/28 13:09, 25F
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05/28 13:09, 2年前 , 26F
應該也不會有人覺得OK吧?!
05/28 13:09, 26F
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05/28 13:15, 2年前 , 27F
而且當時市場上可能根本沒有其它報價
05/28 13:15, 27F
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05/28 13:34, 2年前 , 28F
他2020時29歲，拿到銀棒和雙冠王，他會只簽短約？
05/28 13:34, 28F
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05/28 13:37, 2年前 , 29F
費城那個去年進AS，然後也29就拿到上億合約
05/28 13:37, 29F
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05/28 13:39, 2年前 , 30F
他們兩個的OPS+基本上是相差無幾的啊！
05/28 13:39, 30F
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05/28 13:52, 2年前 , 31F
費城那位是指Castellanos？他是好選擇沒錯，記得他
05/28 13:52, 31F
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05/28 13:52, 2年前 , 32F
是Boras的客戶...所以...沒簽他不意外，不過他簽的
05/28 13:52, 32F
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05/28 13:52, 2年前 , 33F
約跟Ozuna好像差不多..
05/28 13:52, 33F
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05/28 13:54, 2年前 , 34F
他簽5年1億耶...
05/28 13:54, 34F
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05/28 13:54, 2年前 , 35F
5年 1億.....嗯，有點差距...
05/28 13:54, 35F
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05/28 13:54, 2年前 , 36F
歐租是4年65M
05/28 13:54, 36F
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05/28 13:55, 2年前 , 37F
AA鐵了心就是不碰Boras的客戶
05/28 13:55, 37F
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05/28 13:58, 2年前 , 38F
比起歐租，應該要擔心還沒在勇士打一場球時就
05/28 13:58, 38F
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05/28 13:58, 2年前 , 39F
直接續長約的Olson.
05/28 13:58, 39F
還有 29 則推文
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05/28 16:32, 2年前 , 69F
arris II 都要收成，我看起來是沒那麼快
05/28 16:32, 69F
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05/28 17:13, 2年前 , 70F
還不是續約了Rosario了嗎？
05/28 17:13, 70F
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05/28 17:14, 2年前 , 71F
會覺得有排擠應該是阿酷受大傷
05/28 17:14, 71F
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05/28 17:15, 2年前 , 72F
不續大佛是因為他的低BA和Price
05/28 17:15, 72F
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05/28 17:28, 2年前 , 73F
2020年Ozuna簽約的時候無從得知疫情什麼時候結束，
05/28 17:28, 73F
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05/28 17:28, 2年前 , 74F
如果2021季賽幾乎不開放觀眾入場的話，2022 payrol
05/28 17:28, 74F
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05/28 17:28, 2年前 , 75F
l就會比現在要低非常多
05/28 17:28, 75F
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05/28 17:36, 2年前 , 76F
只能說不是誰都願意買單短約，JD也不願意了啊
05/28 17:36, 76F
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05/28 17:39, 2年前 , 77F
以當時當然看不見未來的事，但2020續歐租
05/28 17:39, 77F
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05/28 17:40, 2年前 , 78F
沒不合理，大家也知道他應該打不出那60場的高效
05/28 17:40, 78F
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05/28 17:41, 2年前 , 79F
會討論這個無非是他從去年就打太爛，然後又無法
05/28 17:41, 79F
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05/28 17:42, 2年前 , 80F
讓他佔著DH這爽缺XD
05/28 17:42, 80F
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05/28 17:45, 2年前 , 81F
事實上如果歐租是因為守備而影響攻擊...
05/28 17:45, 81F
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05/28 17:46, 2年前 , 82F
那真的無話可說了XD
05/28 17:46, 82F
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05/28 19:25, 2年前 , 83F
如果又想到19年被歐豬阻斷季後賽之路就會更加不爽
05/28 19:25, 83F
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05/28 19:25, 2年前 , 84F
不甘心了….
05/28 19:25, 84F
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05/28 22:06, 2年前 , 85F
竟然直接開箱Harris II !!!!!
05/28 22:06, 85F
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05/28 22:07, 2年前 , 86F
左打版歐豬上場！
05/28 22:07, 86F
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05/28 22:07, 2年前 , 87F
（只是論其長相和揮擊準備啦）
05/28 22:07, 87F
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05/28 22:09, 2年前 , 88F
AA之前特別跑去看他比賽果然是有原因的
05/28 22:09, 88F
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05/28 22:21, 2年前 , 89F
Waters被跳過了..XD
05/28 22:21, 89F
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05/28 22:25, 2年前 , 90F
看Harris 24的split 今年打左投很慘
05/28 22:25, 90F
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05/28 22:29, 2年前 , 91F
被Rush了
05/28 22:29, 91F
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05/28 22:34, 2年前 , 92F
從2A直接上
05/28 22:34, 92F
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05/28 22:35, 2年前 , 93F
這個不被rush 一定是老天爺特別施予極大的恩惠了
05/28 22:35, 93F
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05/28 22:35, 2年前 , 94F
174 PA 39K 17 BB
05/28 22:35, 94F
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05/28 22:37, 2年前 , 95F
對戰左投只好讓右手版Harris (歐豬）上場了
05/28 22:37, 95F
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05/28 22:53, 2年前 , 96F
左打真的很缺 剛才才發現限制13個投手的政策要延後
05/28 22:53, 96F
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05/28 22:54, 2年前 , 97F
今天過後多帶一個position player又落空了 不然把
05/28 22:54, 97F
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05/28 22:55, 2年前 , 98F
Tromp叫上來 讓Contreras可以比較多時間打DH也不錯
05/28 22:55, 98F
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05/28 23:04, 2年前 , 99F
看資料上Harris 是左右開弓...
05/28 23:04, 99F
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05/28 23:11, 2年前 , 100F
如果Harris 賴著不下去 水哥就可以重返榮耀榮登我
05/28 23:11, 100F
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05/28 23:11, 2年前 , 101F
勇 #1 prospect
05/28 23:11, 101F
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05/28 23:18, 2年前 , 102F
然後被交易XD
05/28 23:18, 102F
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05/28 23:29, 2年前 , 103F
Waters就算交易掉也是蔥花一把啦...
05/28 23:29, 103F
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05/28 23:43, 2年前 , 104F
外野太破爛，所以提前call up?
05/28 23:43, 104F
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05/28 23:44, 2年前 , 105F
反正其他人也很爛，至少防守升級
05/28 23:44, 105F
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05/28 23:59, 2年前 , 106F
本勇過去22位 M-Braves 直升球員
05/28 23:59, 106F
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05/28 23:59, 2年前 , 107F
05/28 23:59, 107F
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05/29 00:06, 2年前 , 108F
有一半以上算是有成功的生涯
05/29 00:06, 108F
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