[閒聊] 一篇比較Wang和Wright的文章....

看板CMWang (王建民 - 大樹哥)作者 (呆偉)時間19年前 (2005/05/31 14:44), 編輯推噓55(5508)
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原文參考網站:http://www.nomaas.org/ 左手邊有個王建民脫帽的圖,點下去就是了... 這篇文章我覺得還挺有趣的 其實也道盡了為何現在正統洋基迷幾乎一面倒希望Wang留在輪值裡,而非Wright的理由 ps.小弟外文功力其實不佳,所以只能翻出大概的意思,大大們見笑了 有任何錯誤請用力指正!! -------------------------------------------------- By Conan the Barbarian In the offseason, the Yankees decided that carrying old injury prone pitchers wasn't the way to build a team. So they decided to go young and… injury prone. I won't really bore people with the details regarding Jaret Wright's signing. What I will do though is give everyone a running account of just how much money the Yankees wasted in signing Mr. "never pitched 200 innings ever in a season" Wright. 在去年球季後,洋基瞭解到擁有一堆又老又傷的投手對未來的比賽將難以為繼,所 以決定要讓球隊年輕化以及....又傷又痛....。我就不再抨擊球隊簽下Jaret Wright 這件事了,我就讓大夥兒看看洋基在這個"從未一季投球超過200局"的老兄身上到底 浪費了多少錢。 The next few paragraphs will be a little backgrounder and comparison with Wright and the man who replaced him. Towards the end, I’ll go into the financial aspect and my running account of the foolishness of this signing. 在接下來的幾段內容將針對Jaret Wright和取代他位置的Wang做一些背景上的說明 和比較。而最後,我將會從財務的觀點說明簽下Jaret Wright這件事是多麼的愚蠢。 We all knew Jaret Wright’s history. We knew that he was an oft-injured pitcher that suspiciously had a career year under the great Leo Mazzone and backed by Atlanta’s defense. That he would be moving to the marginal at best Yankee defense and to Mel "Destroyer of pitchers" Stottlemyre we also knew. 我們都知道Jaret Wright的過去:一個經常容易受傷的投手,在勇士隊投手教練 Leo Mazzone(有投手再生工廠美名!?)的指點及隊友的防守下再攀高峰。但在 洋基不算堅強的防守以及"投手終結者"Mel Stottlemyre的麾下,Wright在隊中 可說前景堪虞。 We also knew that the Yankees’ highest level pitching prospect, Chien-Ming Wang was ready. He of the 2.01 ERA 4 K/BB and 0.97 WHIP in AAA in 2004. Add to that the fact that he dominated a very strong Japanese team in the Olympics and most everyone agreed that he at least deserved a shot. 而我們也清楚洋基體系內最被寄予厚望的投手Chien-Ming Wang早已準備妥當。他2004 年在3A繳出防禦率2.01、K/BB值4,WHIP 0.97的成績;此外,在去年奧運時面對精銳 盡出的日本隊也有精彩的表現,使得絕大多數人都認為洋基至少應該給Wang一個機會。 But the Yankees signed Wright over other pitchers that were still available and over promoting Wang. As I said, I won’t discuss what happened back then but the repercussions of it. Wright started 4 games for the Yankees in 2005 so far and produced a sparkling 9.15 ERA not even 5 IP per start and an OPS against of 1.150. Yes, against Wright, everybody on average became Barry Bonds. 但是洋基卻簽下了Wright而捨棄了其他可能的候選人,也放棄了將Wang拉上大聯盟。 我已經說,我不想再評論這個決定,我們直接來看看現在的結果為何。Wright今年到 目前為只總共先發四場比賽,平均每場比賽撐不超過五局,繳出OPS 1.15、防禦 率9.15的「耀眼」成績。沒錯,在Wright的面前,所有的打者看起來都像Barry Bonds 一樣的威猛。 When he inevitably went down with a shoulder injury, the Yankees were left with no recourse but to promote from within, and up came Wang. In 5 starts, Wang has gone 33 innings, basically a little over 6 IP per start, and an OPS against of .667. Basically everyone on average became Tony Womack against Wang. Wang has not given up a HR in his 33 innings. In Wright's 19.2 innings, he gave up 6. 當他如預料般的果真傷了肩膀進到傷兵名單後,洋基在別無他法之下,只有將Wang拉 上來。他的五次先發,至少都能投滿6局;而在33局的投球中,OPS為 .667。 在Wang的面前,每個打者變成只是Tony Womack的等級。而且在Wang 33局的投球中, 沒有被敲出任何全壘打;Wright呢?在19.2局的投球裡裡,就被轟出了6支!! For a little perspective (a quality start is a start where a pitcher goes at least 6 innings and gives up less than 3 runs) 接著看看QS這個數據:(QS是指先發投手在至少6局的投球中,失分不超過3分) Wang: 4 quality starts. Only one start with more than 3 ER, worst start 5 ER. At least 6 IP in every start. Wang:有4次quality starts。只有一次先發時單場自責分超過3,單場最多自責分是5 ,每次先發投球局數至少都投滿6局。 Wright: No quality starts. Only one start with less than 6 ER, worst start 8ER. Season high: 5.1 IP Wright:沒有任何的quality starts。只有一場比賽自責分低於6,最糟糕的一場比賽 則高達8,本季最長先發局數是5.1局。 Jaret Wright will have a salary of $5.67 million this year (of a 3 yr $21 million contract). Assuming that the Yankees expect 30 starts from Wright this year, he gets paid $188,889 per start. So, of the scheduled 9 starts of Wright’s spot in the rotation, he has only made 4 of those starts, getting paid $1.7 million in the process. That $1.7 million would have paid for 5 Chien Ming Wangs. Jaret Wright今年的年薪是567萬美元(是一紙3年2100萬美元的合約)。假設以洋基 期待他今年先發30場來計算,他每場先發可拿到$188,889元,依照原本的輪值,Wright 目前應該先發9場比賽,但他只完成4場,卻可以領到170萬美元,這個數目足足可以付 給五個王建民(還有找...) For the 59 outs (19.2 innings) that Jaret Wright has given the Yankees, he has been paid $1.7 million. Or basically, $28,813.56 per out. 洋基為了Wright先發19.2局裡造成的59個出局數,一共花了170萬美元,簡單來說,也 就是一個出局數要花掉洋基$28,813.56元。 For more perspective, During Wright’s horrible 4 inning first Yankee start when he went against Baltimore, the 12 outs that he got in that game paid him $345,000 which would have been enough to pay for Chien Ming Wang's entire 2005 salary of $316,000 with some change to spare. 再進一步來看,(以上面的計算為基礎)當Wright本季可怕的第一次先發對上巴爾的摩 金鶯隊時,這4局一共12個出局數,花了洋基34.5萬(28,813*12=345,756),這已經足 夠支付Wang一整季31.6萬的年薪,而且仍然還有的找... 各位看倌,你們覺得如何呢?? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 210.242.162.72

59.120.231.19 05/31, , 1F
這位洋基迷太強了 y
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推這篇文章.....
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"沒錯,在Wright的面前,所有的打者看起來都像Barr
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y Bond一樣威猛" XDDDD
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推~~
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140.115.200.229 05/31, , 6F
這網站裡的圖片都好有趣喔...
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59.120.231.19 05/31, , 7F
這位洋基迷可能本身是老闆對數字分析很詳細哈..
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210.69.13.1 05/31, , 8F
在Wright的面前,所有的打者看起來都像Barry Bonds
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我笑了
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利用一堆數據 很有煽動力XD
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感謝大大的翻譯啊 :) 推「在Wright的面前」
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140.113.94.192 05/31, , 13F
這篇太屌啦XD
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220.228.71.103 05/31, , 14F
「所有的打者看起來都像Barry Bonds」 :P
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推! 也感謝您的翻譯
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163.25.118.43 05/31, , 17F
翻得很好呀!!!
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140.127.70.46 05/31, , 18F
OPS是OBP+SLG
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OPS 不是被上壘率喔~~上壘率不可能超過 1.00
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我也推Bonds XDDD
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140.116.177.216 05/31, , 21F
ER是自責分 不是單場防禦率
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140.123.221.161 05/31, , 22F
利華賊或許會偷走喔!
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故意翻錯 要是照抄就好笑了XD
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※ 編輯: limoki 來自: 210.242.162.72 (05/31 15:19)

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某些"老?"球迷真的沒品,常用"一日球迷"隨便侮辱同好
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特別是在某些特定的版上...
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搞不好又有人說這是台灣鄉民過去假扮的洋基迷XD
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LOL~~
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有人又再唱雙簧了.這也唱.洋基板也唱.
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對一日球迷四個字那麼不爽..也麻煩挑好主題..
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推 翻的不錯
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推~
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謝謝你的翻譯,可以讓我轉載嗎?
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最後兩段很有煽動力xD
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利華賊會不會借用呢?請開賭盤
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不過還是超感謝你的翻譯,一股清流啊
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這篇作者真會算錢
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這篇觀點很不錯,被盜的機率不小喔
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感謝大大的翻譯^^~
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推!順便請問為啥說洋基投手教練是投手終結者呢?
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嘖 這位洋基迷莫非是數學老ㄙ
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推翻譯,大感謝!
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這篇不盜 不是記者XD
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話說回來 Tony Womack還真衰 好歹也是隊友
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原波太謙虛了 我英文是破爛
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Womack是台灣的朋友 王曹處女秀他都是隊友똠
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好個罵人不帶髒字,這種文章真過癮^^
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王建民好像是廉價勞工
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還要小心惠玲姐這個人
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Womack 當代跑代守還蠻好用, 不要叫他打擊就好
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開個賭盤來賭這篇會不會被記者盜用吧~ (逃~~)
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感謝大大的翻譯啊
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我想推"投手終結者"...
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推Barry Bonds
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推翻譯! 但內文有些事後諸葛的感覺...
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謝謝分享與翻譯
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※ 編輯: limoki 來自: 61.62.171.2 (05/31 21:48)

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推Barry Bonds
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220.134.136.221 05/31, , 58F
錢對洋基來說會是考慮重點嗎??怎麼會用錢分析?
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真是文情並茂的翻譯啊
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Womack有點可憐...被拿來比喻.....
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with some change to spare我還不知道該怎麼
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翻呢 你很棒耶 給你拍拍手^^
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sparkling ERA 9.15 真的夠很
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文章代碼(AID): #12d0V8tD (CMWang)