[Wang] Scouting Yankee Prospect #11
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剛剛看到版友分享了很棒的心得，從一開始小王在小聯盟的受傷、復出、被重新倚重，
一直到找到新的武器球主宰了三A聯盟，最後順利登上大聯盟，
想到的最近在洋基討論版上看到的版友PO出的一篇值得在現在小王站穩大聯盟後
細細品味的潛力新秀評估文章，
相信看完了這篇文章的內容，大家除了會對小王有更大的信心之外，
也可以看出大聯盟球探與球評的功力之深:)
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By: Frankie Piliere
Date: Feb 7, 2005
原文出處 http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=325&p=2&c=350213
(點進去還可以看到兩張小王的可愛照片，跟現在比真的瘦很多~"~)
The Yankees inked Chien-Ming Wang to a $1.9 million deal back in 2000 but he
was temporarily setback by arm problems. Wang came back with a strong 2004
campaign to put himself back on the prospect map. It's this reason that he's
our Yankee's prospect #11. (Free Preview of Premium Content)
洋基球團在2000年時以一紙US$190萬的合約簽下了王建民，
但小王卻一度被手臂問題困擾，在2004年，小王終於以堅實的表現宣告他的復出，
並重新讓他成為球團注目的潛力新秀。
也是這個原因使他成為了洋基淺力新秀排行榜的第11名。
Vital Statistics:
Name: Chien-Ming Wang
Position: Starting Pitcher
DOB: March 31, 1980
Height: 6' 3"
Weight: 200
Bats: Right
Throws: Right
Of course, for obvious reasons, Chien-Ming Wang was surrounded by nothing but
hype after the Yankees signed him to his monster contract for a player that
never played a Major League game. It was another Evil Empire victory as the
Yankees had once again out bid the Braves, Rockies, Mariners, Red Sox,
Diamondbacks and Orioles for his services. But for Wang, he wouldn't have it
any other way. "The chance to compete in U.S. baseball is my greatest dream,
particularly by joining the Yankees, who have won 25 World Series titles,"
Wang told Baseball America through an interpreter. "I am so excited I can't
sleep." Here is what the Yankees coordinator of Pacific Rim Scouting, John
Cox had to say about Wang as he spoke with Baseball America. "We're very
proud of Wang," Cox said. "He's got size, almost a perfect delivery, great
arm speed and we expect big things from him." "Most pitchers when faced with
losing a run will let the pressure influence their delivery. That's not the
case with Wang," Cox said. "Our scouts noticed that Wang's delivery becomes
faster the tighter the jam. He throws his best pitches when the game
is on the line."
當然很明顯的，當洋基球團以如此驚人的高價合約簽下了從來沒在大聯盟打過球的小王，
我們所能看到的除了一樁有可能的詐欺以外看不到其他的可能性。
當我們看到洋基再一次競標勝過勇士、落磯、水手、紅襪、響尾蛇、金鶯，
這充其量只是另一件邪惡帝國的勝利而已，但小王卻沒想太多，
"能有這個機會在美國的棒球場裡競爭是我所夢寐以求的，尤其是加入洋基，
那是個已經獲得25個世界冠軍頭銜的球隊！""我已經興奮到睡不著覺了！"
小王透過翻譯說。
負責環太平洋地區球探工作的John Cox跟Baseball America談到了小王，
"我們都很為小王感到驕傲，"Cox說，"他具有很好的體格、完美的投球動作、
極佳的手臂速度、我們對小王有非常大的期待" "大部分的投手面對了失分的危機時
投球的動作都會被這種壓力所影響，在小王身上我們卻完全看不到這項影響"Cox說
"我們的球探發現了當壘上有人的危機越大時，他的投球就越快，而當比賽
趨近於緊繃時，他投的最好。"
"Tiger" Wang would begin his quest for his ultimate goal of making it to the
Major Leagues in 2000 when the New York Yankees assigned him to the Staten
Island Yankees. "Growing up in Taiwan, I had heard so much about the Yankees
but had never even seen them on TV," Wang told SLAM! Sports. "I watch Roger
Clemens on TV whenever I can, he's amazing." He already was as hyped as
possible and his prospect glow became even more blinding as he performed
beautifully in his first professional season. For the season, he tossed 87
innings, striking out 75 batters and compiling an impressive 2.48 ERA.
當洋基球團在2000年簽下他到Staten Island打球時，"老虎"王就開始他往最終的目標
上大聯盟打球的第一步，"雖然在台灣長大，我卻已經聽過了大部分的洋基球員，
卻從來沒有在電視上面看過他們，"小王告訴SLAM! Sprts，"只要我有機會我一定會
看Clemens投球，他真是太驚人了。"他的確已經夠興奮的了，而當小王在他的第一個
職業生涯球季以87局的投球，三振了75個打者，並拿下了2.48的自責分率時，
他的潛力已經慢慢的發光發熱耀眼。
However, things came to a screeching halt when Wang was forced to undergo
major arthroscopic surgery on this right shoulder. This would cause him to
miss the entire 2001 season and would end up being a major setback for the
righthander. But, he returned to Staten Island in 2002 and absolutely
dominated. In 12 games, he went 6-1 with a minuscule 1.72 ERA while striking
out 64 batters as well. Not to tarnish his great 2002 season but it was
obvious that Wang was playing below the level he should be at and that fact
was that he still did not have his full strength back in that shoulder. That
chink in his armor would be exposed in a big way as he would jump all the way
to AA Trenton and have a very pedestrian season in which he compiled a 4.65
ERA. However, one can't fault Wang for this. It is well documented that when
healthy, Chien-Ming Wang can consistently hit 95 MPH on the radar gun. But
during the 2003 season in Trenton, he struggled just to throw 90 MPH. This
was not a fully recovered Wang and the organization was fully aware of that.
然而，事情卻產生了重大的轉折，小王被迫進行一項在他右肩膀的主關節鏡手術，
這項手術可能讓他錯過了整個2001年球季，同時也是他職業生涯裡一項莫大的挫折，
但，在2002年他又回到了Staten Island而且完全的主宰了球場，在十二場出賽裡，
繳出了6勝1敗以及極低的1.72自責分率，同時也三振了64名打者，
並不是要貶低他在2002年的表現，而是很明顯的，小王只是在低於他該比賽的層級
比賽而已，且事實上，他仍然沒有完全的找回他受傷前肩膀該有的力量，
這個在他身體上的小瑕疵將會受到更大的檢驗當他一路跳到了2A層級Trenton，
而的確，他繳出了毫不起眼的一季，有4.65的自責分率，
但，沒有人可以以此來挑剔小王，根據過去的紀錄顯示，假如小王保持健康，
他可以持續的丟出在測速槍顯示95英里的速球，但在Trenton的2003球季，
他的球速只能在90英里上下，這代表著小王並沒有完全的康復，而球團對此也相當關心。
Despite the disappointing 2003 season Wang, he had some off season
accomplishments that breathed new life into him as well. Wang pitched for the
Taiwan Baseball Team in the Asian Games and as the apparent ace of the staff,
leading them to a berth in the 2004 Olympics in Athens. Either way, Wang
would have to repeat in AA Trenton in 2004. He came back strong in 2004 as he
did a solid job for the Thunder. He posted a solid 4.05 ERA to go along with
a 6-5 record. Another impressive statistic was that Wang struck out 90
batters while walking only 26. He also ate up 109 innings for Trenton. This
performance was more than enough to earn a promotion to AAA Columbus in late
July.
雖然小王在2003年度過了一個令人沮喪的球季，在季後他仍然達到了某些成果，
而這些將為他的生涯帶來一絲新的希望。小王在亞錦賽披上台灣戰袍扮演了隊上了
王牌先發，成功帶領中華隊一路殺進雅典奧運，僅果如此，小王在2004年還是必須
從2A Trenton出發，在2004年他用堅強的表現告訴球隊他的確回來了，
他繳出了穩定的4.05自責分率，並取得6勝5負的戰績，另一個讓人印象深刻的數據是，
他在三振了90名打者的同時只保送了26名，他也為球隊吃下了109局的投球局數，
這樣的表現已足夠讓他獲得往更高層級挑戰的機會--在七月下旬向3A Columbus報到。
Suddenly it happened. Chien-Ming Wang once again became the guy that they
once thought he would be. It may have gradually began in AA Trenton but it
was obvious when he pitched for the Clippers. All of a sudden, he was that
big time pitcher that the Yankees thought he would be. He is throwing 96 MPH
again with that good slider and incredible command. However, it is probably
more so that we just forget that, after undergoing the serious surgery that
he did, the recovery time for returning to complete form is over two years.
Well, the real Chien-Ming Wang is back and the Yankees are thrilled, with
good reason. In Columbus, Wang compiled a 2.01 ERA and posted a 5-1 record.
The lanky righty has a chance to make the big club at some point in 2005
after his dominating performance at AAA last season.
突然就這麼發生了，王建民再一次的成為那位大家都覺得他應該會成為的好投手，
也許在2A就可以觀察得出來但在3A的投球裡卻更加明顯，突然間，
他成為了一名洋基球團認為他應該成為的強力投手，小王再次投出了96英里的速球，
加上一顆好的滑球以及驚人的壓制力，然而，也許我們忘記了一點，那就是，
當一位投手進行了像小王一樣那麼重大的手術，復原的時間是要花超過兩年的。
無論如何，真正的王建民已經回來了，洋基球團也相當興奮，因為在Columbus，
小王繳出了2.01自責分率以及5勝一敗的成績。
由於在上一季在3A如此具有壓制力的表現，這位瘦長的右投手在2005年的某個時候
將會有機會上大聯盟挑戰。
Repertoire. Fastball, Splitter, Slider, Changeup.
Fastball. To put it simply, "Tiger" Wang throws smoke. Although he went
through periods of inconsistency after shoulder surgery, he is now back to
the hard throwing righty that the Yankees signed. In his first season back,
he lost some of his confidence in his naturally explosive four seam fastball,
trying to fool hitters too much with his off speed stuff. But, once he earned
to trust his naturally electric heater, his success increased immensely in
2004, especially when you have a fastball that ranges anywhere from 92-95
MPH, touching 97-98 MPH on several occasions. But, the thing that impresses
teammates and coaches about Wang is that there have been multiple cases in
which he's been noted as reaching velocities of 97 MPH in the eighth inning.
He has a pure power fastball and has finally bought into attacking the zone
with it. That was the difference in him in 2004.
球種：快速直球、叉指球、滑球、變速球
速球：簡而言之，"老虎"王有驚人的速度，雖然在進行了肩膀手術之後有時候會不穩定，
他現在已經回復了以前那位洋基所簽下的強力右投手的特色，在手術後第一個球季，
小王對於他充滿了爆炸性力量的四縫線速球一度失去了信心，只想要用他的變化球
來愚弄打者，但一旦重新找到了對於自己充滿爆發性的火球的的信心，
在2004年他立刻獲致了極大的成功，尤其當你有一顆球速在92-95英里有時候會飆到
97-98英里的速球的時候，但，在這當中最讓教練團還有隊友印象深刻的是，
好幾次在比賽過程即使到了第八局，小王的球速有好幾次都達到了97英里。
小王有一顆具有力量的速球，並且也成功的讓這個速球能夠投進好球帶，
這就是他能夠在2004年有如此不同表現的原因。
Other Pitches. Once again, no one could ever accuse Chien-Ming Wang of having
a shallow repertoire. He has a good slider but as of now, it is not an
overwhelming pitch. But, it is enough to make a right handed hitter reach
over the plate to set up a fastball pounded in on the hands. He also
possesses a decent changeup but he does not use it all that often. Out of all
his pitches, though, the one he does business with is his splitter. When, he
is on, it is is nearly unhittable. If he can keep it consistent, it will be
his biggest weapon against lefty hitters.
其他球種：再一次的，沒有人可以挑剔小王擁有的球路太少，因為他有一個不錯的滑球，
雖然並不是一個具有絕對壓制力的球路但在引誘設定速球打擊的右打者揮擊已經足夠，
他也有一顆不差的變速球但並不常使用，綜觀小王的投球，其中個管用的球路就是
他的快速叉指球，當他找到這個球路的感覺，幾乎沒有打者打得到這顆球，
如果小王能夠保持這個球種的穩定性，這會是他未來面對左打者最大的武器。
Pitching. A power pitcher? You bet he is. Wang has a smooth, loose, quick arm
action that produces of a live fastball that explodes on the plate. He used
to be far more tentative but he turned the corner in 2004. In AA, he
struggled a bit with lefties but he seemed to improve upon that problem as
the season unfolded. His command and control is a plus attribute along with
his strikeout potential. The only chinks he has in his armor is his ability
to stay healthy and retire lefty hitters. Other than that, he shows you why
the Yankees gave him the big bucks. Wang has frontline stuff, but he needs to
develop more consistency.
投球：一個強力投手？你一定認為他是。小王有一個滑順、快速的繞臂動作
讓他可以投出一個在本壘板附近產生突然改變的速球，這是在2004年突然產生的現象。
在2A時，小王對於對付左打者有些頭痛，但這個問題在球季展開之後，似乎慢慢解決了，
他的壓制力還有控球力的改進將會讓他的三振能力更加發揮出來，
綜觀而言，這位投手唯一個瑕疵只有健康以及解決左打者，除此之外，
他已經展現了為何當初洋基球團以重金簽下的理由，小王擁有足以上火線的武器，
但他必須有更佳的穩定性。
Projection. Wang has the electric stuff to sit atop a big league staff.
However, can he consistently get left-handed hitters out? That will be the
key. But, either way, he is going to make a superb middle-of-the-rotation
starter, at minimum. However, if he can find a way to retire lefties, he will
be more of a frontline starter. "Tiger" Wang has strikeout potential to go
along with great control. Righties look foolish off him but getting lefties
out will be the key to his future.
推測：小王有閃亮的資質讓他能站上大聯盟，然而，能否持續的讓左打者出局是一個關鍵
但，無論他能不能辦到，他至少都將成為一個傑出的二或三號先發，如果他還能
找到讓左打者出局的方式，他會是一個更前面的先發投手。
"老虎"王具有三振打者的潛力但他必須有更佳的控球，右打者面對他顯的愚蠢，
但讓左打者出局會是他未來生涯的關鍵。
ETA. 2005. Yes, Wang is about the only true pitching prospect that is ready
for big league action right now. But, will he get his chance? We'll see. If
Kevin Brown or any other pitcher on the Bronx Bomber staff should falter or
get injured, Wang should be the first to get the call. So, it is safe to say,
considering the aging Yankee staff, that we can expect to see the tall
righthander break in at some point in 2005.
預測上大聯盟時間：在2005年，是的，
小王是所有潛力新秀裡面唯一一個已經準備上大聯盟的投手，
但，他能夠得到這個機會嗎？我們等著瞧，如果Kevin Brown或是其他洋基投手
表現不穩定或是受傷，小王會是第一個叫上大聯盟的人，所以，
我們可以很肯定的說，考量到洋基球隊老化的選手群，我們可以期待這位高大的
右投手在2005年球季的某個時刻上大聯盟。
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看完了這篇文章各位鄉民有沒有會心一笑的感覺，所有裡面所預測到的狀況在現實裡面
幾乎都發生了，老化的洋基投手群受傷或是表現失常，小王上大聯盟，
擁有了站穩球隊3-4號先發的能力，由於控球能力的不足而使的三振數少，
再加上沒辦法保持健康的狀態使得在2005年球季沒辦法完整打完，
對左打者的壓制力還不夠好使得他沒辦法成為一個球隊的第一、二號先發，
但第三號先發已經綽綽有餘...
這些預測的語句都是在2005年二月所寫下來的，根據的不是胡亂的猜測而是審慎的評估，
仔細的觀察，以及對於球員的了解，
我實在很佩服寫這篇文章的作者，能夠如此的掌握一個球員的狀態，做最準確的預測，
當然，小王的堅持與努力所展現出來的傑出表現才能夠讓球探有如此的預測，
一切的一切都是進行式，我們可以持續的觀察下去，
看著小王在大聯盟的任何一處發光發熱，最後，我要引用小王的一句話，
"我從來不認為自己是個明星，我只是個投手"
我說----------------"雖然你不承認你是明星，但在眾鄉民心裡，你早已是明星"
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05/21 02:43, 143F
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05/21 03:26, , 144F
05/21 03:26, 144F
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05/21 04:09, , 145F
05/21 04:09, 145F
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05/21 04:37, , 146F
05/21 04:37, 146F
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05/21 05:49, , 147F
05/21 05:49, 147F
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05/21 08:15, , 148F
05/21 08:15, 148F
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05/21 09:24, , 149F
05/21 09:24, 149F
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05/21 10:38, , 150F
05/21 10:38, 150F
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05/21 11:20, , 151F
05/21 11:20, 151F
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05/21 12:06, , 152F
05/21 12:06, 152F
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05/21 12:07, , 153F
05/21 12:07, 153F
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05/21 12:13, , 154F
05/21 12:13, 154F
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05/21 12:14, , 155F
05/21 12:14, 155F
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05/21 12:36, , 156F
05/21 12:36, 156F
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05/21 13:43, , 157F
05/21 13:43, 157F
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05/21 13:57, , 158F
05/21 13:57, 158F
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05/21 15:03, , 159F
05/21 15:03, 159F
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05/21 15:35, , 160F
05/21 15:35, 160F
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05/21 16:10, , 161F
05/21 16:10, 161F
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05/21 16:31, , 162F
05/21 16:31, 162F
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05/21 17:04, , 163F
05/21 17:04, 163F
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05/21 19:53, , 164F
05/21 19:53, 164F
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05/21 20:01, , 165F
05/21 20:01, 165F
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05/21 22:26, , 166F
05/21 22:26, 166F
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05/22 01:30, , 167F
05/22 01:30, 167F
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05/22 01:45, , 168F
05/22 01:45, 168F
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05/22 02:40, , 169F
05/22 02:40, 169F
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05/22 05:56, , 170F
05/22 05:56, 170F
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05/22 09:47, , 171F
05/22 09:47, 171F
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05/22 12:26, , 172F
05/22 12:26, 172F
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05/22 12:50, , 173F
05/22 12:50, 173F
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05/22 16:33, , 174F
05/22 16:33, 174F
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05/22 16:34, , 175F
05/22 16:34, 175F
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06/02 01:22, , 176F
06/02 01:22, 176F
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