[外電] 解放尼克隊的進攻--瓜瓜突破效率聯盟居首

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本文有很多籃球專用術語,我不是很擅長,如果有問題,還請大家多多指正。 謝謝~~~ 來源 : SI.com (體育畫報) 文章連結 : http://tinyurl.com/9qwbl2k Synergy Sport資料庫 http://www.synergysportstech.com/ -------------- New stats on Carmelo Anthony, Amar’e Stoudemire could unlock Knicks’ offense 瓜瓜和阿罵的最新統計資料可能解放尼克隊的進攻端 It’s common for players and coaches to tell reporters how simple basketball is at its core: you move the ball around, and you try to throw it in the basket. They’re oversimplifying things, of course, since any game with 10 men moving in patterns around the floor can be pretty complex to sort out. Sometimes even fundamental decisions are difficult, including: Where should the five guys on a team be when it starts a given offensive possession? Who belongs on which slice of the court? 球員和教練通常告訴記者,籃球的核心是很簡單的,你運球移動,試著將球投進 籃框裡。當然,他們把事情太過簡化了,任何球賽,在場上有十個人,他們在球 場上移動的模式可能變得相當複雜,難以釐清。某些時候,甚至是基本的決定都 很困難,包括:這五個同一支球隊的隊員在發動一波進攻攻勢時,誰應該在哪個 位置?誰該在球場上的哪個斜線? The Knicks’ wild 2011-12 season provides a window into this question. Charles Oakley can talk all he wants about how Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire need to play better defense – he’s right — but the basic fact that defined New York’s crazy season, and the one that will define its future, is this: New York scored only 98.5 points per 100 possessions with Anthony, Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler on the court together. That’s a mark that would have tied Toronto for 25th in points per possession, per NBA.com’ s stats tool. The Knicks spent most of the season as one of the league’s 10 worst offensive teams and one of its 10 stingiest defensive teams. If the offense doesn’t improve, especially when all the high-priced stars play together, the Knicks have a limited ceiling. 尼克隊瘋狂的2011-12賽季,對於這個問題開啟了一扇窗戶。查理斯‧歐克利可以 談論他希望瓜瓜和阿罵需要更好的防守-他是對的-但描述尼克隊瘋狂的球季 基本因素,而且這個因素將決定尼克的未來就是:在瓜瓜、阿罵、拳王同時在場上, 尼克隊在100次進攻中,只得了98.5分。如果進攻端沒有改進,特別是所有高價球星 同時在場上,尼克隊的成就將很有限。 Last season, New York became one of 10 teams to purchase a multi-camera system from STATS, LLC that tracks every movement in an NBA game — of the players, the ball, the referees, etc. As I’ve written before, you can use it to measure player speed, the height of the ball on a particular rebound, how well a player shoots from a precise position on the floor, how well he shoots after one or two dribbles and lots of other things. Plucking out the useful data and making on-court adjustments based on it will be a giant challenge for the growing number of teams subscribing to a system that provides more information than any one person can handle. 上一季,尼克隊是NBA十支購買了多重攝影機系統的球隊之一,它能從多角度測試 球員、籃球、甚至是裁判等等。就像我以前介紹過的,你可以使用它來測量球員 的速度、測量某個特定的籃板球彈起的高度,球員在某個位置的出手命中率,或 是球員在運球一、兩次後出手的命中率等等。從中擷取有用的資料,根據這些資 料在場上做調整,對引進這系統的球隊而言是一個巨大的挑戰,它可以提供比任 何人所能掌握的更多資料。 But there is useful data in there, including info that does more than simply confirm what we already know (i.e., Tony Parker is fast, or Kevin Durant shoots better immediately after the catch than he does after a few dribbles). One thing that seems handy to know: How do particular players function when they stand in a certain area, or catch the ball there? And how do their teams function in those situations? 通過這些測試,我們已經知道聯盟速度最高的球員(例如:趴車速度很快,雷帝接 球之後立即出手的命中率高於運球後再投籃)。顯而易見的是:某個球員站在某個 特定的區域,或帶球到那裡後,他如何行使他的職責?其他隊友在這樣的情況下, 該怎麼運作? The folks at STATS gave SI.com exclusive access last week to two reports, produced for subscribing teams, that touch on this issue. The first is a report on dribble drives, tracking every time a player took the ball from an area more than 20 feet away from the basket and dribbled it to within 10 feet of the hoop. The second focuses on elbow touches — on which players receive the ball most often there, and what they do with it once they get it. 統計公司上星期向《體育畫報》透露了兩個引進這套系統球隊的相關報告。第一是 運球突破的效率,追蹤球員每次將球從離籃框20尺開外的區域,運至離籃框10尺之 內的區域;第二個焦點放在圓弧接觸──球員在肘區接球後,如何處理球。 Two Knicks-related findings leap out: 與尼克隊相關的兩個發現如下: ‧ Of all players who drove the ball at least 40 times in camera-recorded games last season, Anthony proved to be the most efficient of anyone in the league. The Knicks scored 1.66 points per possession on trips that included an Anthony drive (from 20 feet out to 10 feet in) at any point in the possession. Anthony shot the ball on 55 percent of those drives (53 total, in 17 recorded games), a pretty normal figure for a top player at any position. He drew fouls on 25 percent of his drives, one of the half-dozen highest numbers in the sample of 91 players that STATS sent along. (Among players who piled up more than a token number of drives, only James Harden drew fouls more often.) Anthony shot a hair better than 60 percent from the floor on driving attempts. 在上一季所有出現在攝影機40次以上的球員中,瓜瓜是聯盟中效率最高的。只要有 瓜瓜突破的進攻(從20英尺到10英尺的距離),尼克隊平均能得1.66分。在這些突 破中,瓜瓜的出手率為55%(在17場比賽中突破後投籃53次),這個數字對於任何 位置的頂尖球員來說相當普通。其中有25%的突破造成了犯規,這個數字在91位受 測球員中名列前茅。(在這些突破次數超過一定數字的球員中,只有雷霆的哈登造 成了較高的犯規次數。)從場上突破進攻中,瓜瓜的命中率高於60%。 But here’s the thing: Despite all those touches and more isolation plays than any player in the entire league (as a share of his total possessions, per Synergy Sports), Anthony only pulled off only 3.1 drives per game in the sample size. That mark was equivalent to the numbers for Chandler Parsons and Luol Deng, a bit below those for Kevin Durant (3.6) and Paul Pierce (3.7) and about half to one-third of the number that most point guards recorded. 但這裡有一點:雖然接球後比聯盟裡任何球員使用了更多的單打(根據Synergy Sports資料庫的統計),瓜瓜平均每場只突破3.1次,這與錢德勒‧帕森斯和公牛 隊的魯蛋相似,而稍低於雷帝(3.6次)和保羅‧皮爾斯(3.7次),只有最多的後 衛的三分之一左右。 ‧ Anthony shot the ball nearly half the time that he touched it at the elbow, and he ranked No. 1, again, in points per possession recorded on all of his elbow touches. (Side note: This is an imperfect stat, since it considers the points a player produces after every elbow touch, even ones in which he passes the ball as the first ingredient in a long possession. Powerforwards touch the ball at the elbow more than anyone, with Marc Gasol, Kevin Love, Pau Gasol, Greg Monroe and LaMarcus Aldridge leading the league in touches per game, but they pass the ball about 75 percent of the time, per STATS. Their points per possession numbers by this measure are thus artificially low; Marc Gasol, for instance, shot 57 percent from the elbow but has a very low points per possession number). Anthony shot a whopping 62 percent on shots taken after an elbow touch, one of the highest numbers in the league. ‧在肘區接球時,瓜瓜有一半的時候會投籃,居聯盟第一。(註:這並不是個完 整的數據調查,大前鋒在肘區接球的次數比別人更多,像小嘎獸、小愛、大嘎獸、 Greg Monroe、LaMarcus Aldridge等,他們在肘區接球後有75%會傳球,根據統計數 據。他們在每次進攻得到的分數在這樣的統計方式下因而不自然的偏低;例如小 嘎獸,在肘區接球後57%機率會投籃,但在每次進攻所得到的分數很低。)瓜瓜 在肘區接球後投籃的命中率能達到62%,在聯盟中名列前茅。 Taken together, these stats tell us that Anthony is an enormously powerful force when he attacks the basket from far outside. Watch video of all his shot attempts within five feet of the rim, as I did via NBA.com’s fantastic stats database, and it’s easy to see why. Melo loves to drive from the deep wing area, especially from the left side, where he is dynamite at faking right and squeezing along the left baseline for a right-handed lay-up. (His dependence on right-handed finishes can get him in trouble on the left side if a shot-blocker is around). He’s deadly driving from the elbow areas, with a tendency to go left and a first step too good for almost every defender — especially the power forwards who defended him late in the season, a subject we’ll pick up again later. 整合這些統計資料告訴我們,當瓜瓜從遠處攻擊籃框時,他是個強而有力的進攻 武器。觀看他在籃框五呎內每次投籃進攻的錄影帶,就像我透過NBA.com的數據資 料庫所做的一樣,很容易看出理由為何。瓜瓜喜歡從翼區深處突破,特別是從左 邊,在那裡他就像炸藥一樣,做右邊的假動作,在左邊底線處爭奪籃板,左手上 籃。(他用右手完成進攻可以讓他擺脫左邊的麻煩,尤其是當附近有人防守時)。 他在肘區繞到左邊踏出第一步,幾乎每個防守者都難以防守他致命的突破—特別 是在季賽末期,大前鋒防守他的時候,等等我們會再來談這個主題。 And even more interesting: Anthony is quite a polished pick-and-roll scorer when he starts from above the three-point line and has space to get going. He flies around that pick, and when a big man help defender meets him at the foul line, Anthony has a go-to move that few can stop. He sort of fakes a right-to-left crossover before pulling the ball back to his right and powering to the hoop. 更有趣的是:瓜瓜在三分線附近時的擋拆非常有效,在他突破之後,如果罰球線 附近有大個子來補防,他一般會做個假動作,從右向左胯下運球,然後再把球交 到右手,最後攻擊籃框。 On one hand, this confirms some obvious stuff: Isolation 20-footers are bad; attacking the rim is good. But it also raises very thorny questions about how the Knicks’ offense should look, especially after the Olympics, when Anthony thrived as a spot-up shooter behind the shorter FIBA three-point line. 一方面,很明顯可以肯定的是:在20英呎處單打不好;在肘區邊緣進攻很好。但這 當中仍然有很多爭議之處,尼克隊的進攻端應該看看,特別是在奧運之後,當瓜瓜 在FIBA三分線成為策應投籃很準的射手。 Where should Anthony be in New York’s pet sets? How should he arrive at those places? How do the Knicks encourage him to take the right kinds of shots? 瓜瓜在紐約最佳的定位?他應該要怎麼達到哪些要求?尼克隊如何鼓勵他做出 最佳的投籃? A related item: Stoudemire touched the ball at the elbow much more frequently than Anthony did, nearly seven times per game compared to 3.75 for Anthony, one of the 10 highest numbers in the league. He also shot the ball on 42 percent of those possessions, a very high number. There was just one problem: He was ineffective. Stoudemire shot a middling 46 percent on those elbow possessions and turned the ball over at a pretty high rate. Stoudemire is actually a decent passer when he catches above the foul line and has time to survey the floor, but he’s not near the Gasols’ level and can’t regularly punish defenses — or invigorate offenses — with his high-post passing. 一個相關的資料:阿罵是在肘區接球比瓜瓜次數要多,幾乎平均每場達七次, 瓜瓜則是3.75次,他是全聯盟在此接球最多的10位球員之一。阿罵的出手率為42%, 數值很高。唯一的問題是:他的效率不高,在肘區區的命中率是中等的46%,而且 經常會出現失誤。在罰球線接球之時,阿罵的傳球能力實際上並不強,他必須花 時間去了解球場,但他並不像嘎獸的等級,沒有辦法常常得到防守罰球──或是 鼓舞進攻端──在他的高位傳球上。 And though Stoudemire has a useful mid-range jumper, it fell off last season, and he had trouble shooting from the elbow when he had to catch the ball on the move. (An aside: That 46 percent mark isn’t terrible; Kobe Bryant shot 41 percent after catching at the elbow, and he shot much more often than either Knick did — on a whopping 57 percent of the possessions of which he caught the ball there. But Bryant almost never turned the ball over, and he’s obviously a very skilled passer.) 雖然阿罵有著很好的中距離跳投,但上一季不管用了,而且當他必須移動接球時 ,他在肘區線投籃的命中率有了麻煩。(註:46%命中率看起來不太糟;老大在 肘區線接球的命中率為41%,而他比尼克隊的投籃次數要高──他在那裡接球後 有57%會發動進攻攻勢。但老大幾乎不會失誤,他顯然是個很有技巧的傳球者。) The Knicks had no time to build a complex NBA offense last season, and injuries to both Anthony and Stoudemire at different times made the task even more difficult. They relied on plenty of basic sets: high pick-and-rolls with Chandler as the most common screener, and sets in which players would be stationed at each elbow and in each corner, with Stoudemire and Anthony functioning from either spot. A lot of those wayward Stoudemire jumpers came after he cut from the corner, took a screen and caught the ball at the elbow for a catch-and-shoot jumper on the move. 尼克隊上一個賽季還沒有建立一個複雜的NBA進攻體系,瓜瓜和阿罵相繼受傷也影響了 他們的戰績。他們依賴著基本的設定:拳王經常性的擋拆戰術,大量掩護,球員在 肘區和每個角落,瓜瓜和阿罵在其中之一的點。從角落切入後阿罵大量出其不意的 跳投、掩護、和在肘區接球就投的跳投移動。 The offense didn’t work, for lots of reasons. This data might indicate that one reason was a collective failure to place every player in the “correct” spot on the floor at the right times and in the right proportions. The Knicks know about all of this data, and I suspect it played some role in Stoudemire’s training (with the team’s permission/encouragement) with Hakeem Olajuwon on low-post moves earlier this month. New York subscribed to the system midway through the season, so a disproportionate number of Anthony’s drives — plays successful enough to rank him No.1 in multiple categories here — took place during that late-season stretch during which Stoudemire was injured and Anthony shifted to power forward. 在季賽大多數時候,進攻端是不管用的。這分資料暗示著一季收集的失敗,每個球 在球場上正確的地點和次數,在正確的部位。尼克隊知道這全部的資料,我懷疑這 或許影響了阿罵的訓練課程(在球隊的許可/鼓勵之下),八月初他和大夢做低位 的移動訓練。透過這一季,尼克隊在季中啟用這套系統,所以瓜瓜使用了數量不自 然的突破──讓他成功的在這個領域當中取得領先──在季賽末阿罵受傷,瓜瓜轉 職擔任大前鋒之時。 Having one less big man on the floor opened up those driving lanes and ensured the Knicks had an extra long-range shooter when the defense collapsed. Again: This is the data asking — not answering, but asking — fundamental questions about how the Knicks’ offense should work. I can’t wait to see how New York answers them. 當防守端不管用時,如果尼克隊少了一個為他們拉出空間的大個子,而且外線也 沒射手的話,他們的進攻能怎麼辦呢?另一方面:依資料提出問題──並非回答, 只是提問──關於尼克隊的進攻端怎麼運作的基本問題。我迫不及待看尼克隊怎 麼回答這些問題了。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc)

09/02 09:16, , 1F
推推~感謝翻譯,真的好長,可以轉去尼克版喔,那邊對那些專
09/02 09:16, 1F

09/02 09:17, , 2F
業術語了解的人可能比較多 XD
09/02 09:17, 2F

09/02 09:36, , 3F
看完後發現十支有裝的隊伍至少有雷霆,馬刺,湖人,超賽,
09/02 09:36, 3F

09/02 09:37, , 4F
灰狼之類的 XDD 不知道還有誰 XD 是說多重角度的攝影機原來
09/02 09:37, 4F

09/02 09:38, , 5F
還有這功能,我還以為只是用來剪不同角度的影片放官網給球
09/02 09:38, 5F

09/02 09:40, , 6F
迷看的 XDD 不過竟發現原來上賽季的瓜就是顆突破效率瓜XD
09/02 09:40, 6F

09/02 09:42, , 7F
好酷的設備 XD 突然好想看多重角度的瓜 XDDD
09/02 09:42, 7F

09/02 09:44, , 8F
正在編修中,等修好了會轉過去... :D
09/02 09:44, 8F

09/02 14:38, , 9F
推啊~~~這就是專業!!(推眼鏡)
09/02 14:38, 9F

09/02 16:23, , 10F
這篇好長...看完了推~
09/02 16:23, 10F

09/03 00:07, , 11F
好長 而且不懂的地方有點多 只好推瓜瓜了(咦
09/03 00:07, 11F

09/03 00:18, , 12F
重點就是:(推眼鏡)10支球隊裝這系統,瓜是其中突破效率最高
09/03 00:18, 12F

09/03 00:19, , 13F
和媒體與球評強調的角度不同,強調尼克需要更有效率的進攻
09/03 00:19, 13F

09/03 00:20, , 14F
尼克內部已經得到了這些數據,期待下一季的修正與改進
09/03 00:20, 14F

09/03 00:24, , 15F
感謝o大的摘要XDDD 可以偷偷問肘區是哪裡嘛XD
09/03 00:24, 15F

09/03 06:39, , 16F
http://tinyurl.com/93h3yh7 看圖解應該是指罰球線兩端點
09/03 06:39, 16F
※ 編輯: osape 來自: 118.169.134.32 (09/03 06:43)

09/03 08:40, , 17F
瓜瓜~~瓜瓜
09/03 08:40, 17F
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