[討論] 一個關於Game 5近距離觀察的外電

看板Cavaliers (克里夫蘭 騎士)作者 (=\)時間15年前 (2010/05/13 03:07), 編輯推噓7(7020)
留言27則, 11人參與, 6年前最新討論串1/1
ESPN的專業魔人Hollinger寫的 ESPN11個球評裡面我比較喜歡他,主要是他很認真, 不像有些球評有些名氣(因為曾是球員)就狂打免錢嘴砲 不過這篇寫的針針見血,把我腦袋中想的都具體化了, 騎士迷要有心理準備,看完大概會知道為啥game6要贏是要奇蹟的... Actions speak louder than words. 行動會說話。 And although the words coming out of Cleveland in the wake of Tuesday night's crushing 120-88 Cavaliers loss to the Boston Celtics in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference semifinals haven't been terribly revealing, a rewatch of the game tape shows what might have caused what my editor, Royce Webb, calls the "LeBacle." 雖然game5之後的賽後發言看不出什麼蛛絲馬跡, 不過當我重新好好把比賽再看一便後,連我的編輯都看得出來, 並且戲稱這叫做「LeBacle」(用LBJ的名字和障礙組成的新單字) Let me start by saying that the Cavs have several problems right now other than LeBron James. They gave up 70 points in the second half Tuesday, for crying out loud. The frontcourt pairing of Shaquille O'Neal and Antawn Jamison is defensively suspect, a problem exacerbated by their limited playing time together (just four games before the playoffs.) 不過我得先說Cavs的問題不止有LBJ。他們在下半場讓對手狂掃70分 也說明了他們問題很多。基本上我認為大歐和Jamison是防守問題所在 畢竟他兩再季賽只打了四場比賽。 The fact that Mo Williams is getting lit up like a Christmas tree in front of them isn't helping, either. I'm also wondering whether Anderson Varejao's back is hurting more than he has let on. And Mike Brown is flailing right now -- that Boobie Gibson cameo Tuesday night was a cry for help. 而讓防守問題更嚴重的是毛威,他就像是聖誕樹上的棒棒糖一樣, 讓對手舔了又舔。我甚至懷疑大V的傷勢也比我們知道的嚴重許多。 而MB已經沒有對策了,從他讓Boobie上場就可以知道。 With all that said, if James had gone off for his usual 34-8-7 in Game 5, we'd be having a very different conversation this morning. The primary reason the Cavs looked so awful is that the man who dominated the league in the regular season did virtually nothing of note Tuesday night. (In a testament to how dominant he'd been coming into the game, he still ranks first in playoff player efficiency rating.) 當然即使如此,如果LBJ可以來個普通的34-8-7的數據,這個早上 人們談論的可就完全不是這麼一回事了。騎士之所以看起來那麼糟 的主因在於那個在季賽主宰了整個聯盟的男人在禮拜二晚上基本上 毫無存在感。(要知道他有多麼可怕嘛?即使經歷了禮拜二的爆爛 表現,他的PER還是季後賽第一名。) The obvious question is: Why? Was his elbow bothering him that much? Was he sick? Did he just check out of this one? 所以迫切大家想知道的問題就是:為什麼?他的手肘傷勢真的影響甚鉅? 他生病了嘛?還是他只是提早打卡下班了? We haven't been given many answers, so instead of words, let's look at actions. And what the actions scream from the hilltops is that both LeBron and his opponents knew something was wrong right from the opening tip. 我們沒有聽到什麼答案,所以與其從談話中找蛛絲馬跡,讓我們從 比賽的表現來看。而我分析的結果是不止LBJ,他的對手也知道問題所在 並且打從比賽一開始就沒打算放過這個機會,這是非常顯而易見的。 When I rewatched the game this morning, several things stood out to me. 讓我一一來分析。 First, James couldn't make a jump shot. He tried 11 jumpers and made only one of them. Every miss was short -- most of them well short -- and a couple drifted off to the right. I suppose this could have happened just by chance, but a far more likely cause is that his elbow was bothering his shot. 第一,LBJ這場比賽毫無跳投能力。他外線試了11次,只投進一球。 每一球都短了,大多數都是差很多。而且有不少球都偏右。當然你 也可以爭執說這一場球他就是不準罷了,但是更有可能的原因是他 的手肘影響到他的跳投甚鉅。 Two other data points buttress that conclusion. First, James passed up several other opportunities to shoot open jumpers. Most notable was an isolation against Paul Pierce in the second quarter. James jabbed, and Pierce flinched backward a step and a half, leaving a clear opening to rise up for the uncontested J from 18 feet. Instead, James froze. He reset; Pierce got back into position; and James eventually drove into traffic and nearly threw away a pass. 另外兩個數據分析也證明了這一個結論。LBJ這場比賽有幾個空檔跳投 他都選擇不投。最明顯的是第二節他單打包皮,LBJ佯衝後製造了一個和 包皮間的大空檔,但是LBJ僵了一下,之後選擇重新組織,被恍過的包皮當然 也回來站定位。LBJ這球最後選擇切入而且差點失誤作結。 That was just one play, but I counted several others in which James had a clear opening for the jumper and turned it down. One could argue this was a reaction to his cold shooting, but that has never stopped him before. Instead, I would surmise that he knew his elbow limited his effectiveness as a jump shooter. 這只是其中之一罷了。我還看到好幾次類似的空檔LBJ都不出手。 當然你要說這只是他手感冷所以不想投外線,然而這可從來不曾 阻止過LBJ手感冷時的出手。而我的結論是他自己知道手肘的傷 讓他不能有效跳投了。 It appears the Celtics knew this, too. What stood out while watching LeBron's screen-and-roll possessions, particularly in the second half, was how far under the screen Pierce was playing. It was far enough that he was just meeting James at the other side near the foul line to cut off his driving lane. This should have led to a profusion of wide-open J's that even an average outside shooter like James could have easily exploited. Instead, he went 1-for-11 on jumpers. 證明這一點的是普賽也知道這一點。很明顯的就是他們戰術的改變。 尤其是下半場,你可以看到包皮守LBJ的擋切時時退的多遠。遠到 他可以在LBJ切入時正好在籃下阻止你切入的路徑。這距離也足夠讓 任何一個普通級的射手(就像LBJ)也可以輕易投入外線。然而今天 LBJ只有1-11的外線命中率。 James didn't shoot, but he didn't drive, either. Rather, he passed up a lot of opportunities to make plays. What really stood out in the rewatch was how many pick-and-roll plays ended with James creating no advantage and ultimately passing the ball to a teammate who wasn't open. By my count, this happened a whopping 13 times. 另一點是LBJ沒有跳投,但是他也沒有切入。他錯失了很多進攻的機會。 重看比賽最讓我感到錯愕的是有好多球擋切過後LBJ並沒有製造出任何 機會,而且最終傳球到一個沒有空檔的隊友手裡。我算了一算,這種 狀況一共出現了有13次之多! This, to me, was the most disturbing part about James' Game 5 performance. The pick-and-roll should be able to create some kind of opportunity for James to either score or pass to a wide-open teammate, but when the Celtics offered him jumpers, he reacted by giving up on the play entirely. Cleveland's supporting cast members aren't good enough to create plays on their own without LeBron first creating an advantage for them -- everybody knows this. But too often Tuesday night, a play ended with somebody such as Anthony Parker or Delonte West trying to score one-on-one against a set defense. 這就是最讓我感到難受的一點。擋切戰術應該可以輕易讓LBJ進攻 或是可以傳給空檔隊友,但是當普賽放投不放切時,他竟然放棄 了兩種機會(跳投或傳給空檔)。騎士隊的其他人沒有辦法自己 做出一個好的機會如果LBJ沒有先把機會做給他們,大家都知道這一點。 但是更多時候我們看到的是球最後落在AP或是West手裡單槍匹馬對付 Boston已經準備好的防守陣式。 As a result, a funny thing happened, something I doubt has happened many times in Cleveland: The Cavs' offense was dramatically more effective when James wasn't involved in the play. 結果就是,一個好笑的事情發生了,一個我懷疑在騎士從來沒有過的事: 騎士隊的進攻在LBJ沒有參與時反而比較有效率。 Throughout the first quarter, the Cavs ran plays for Williams and O'Neal to get them involved. This is standard operating procedure for Cleveland, and it produced a respectable 23 points and a three-point first-quarter lead. 這在第一節就可以看出來,騎士用毛威和大歐來讓他們熱開。 雖然這是騎士一貫的開場打法,但是這也讓他們在第一節領先。 It's hard to remember, but Cleveland actually led by eight at one point early in the second quarter. The Cavs pulled James for a two-minute rest and couldn't score. When he came back, they ran nearly every play through him until the middle of the fourth quarter … and still couldn't score. Cleveland scored only 51 points in 2½quarters, with nearly every play going through James in the form of a screen-and-roll. 雖然你可能已經忘了,不過騎士在第二節還領先過八分。騎士之後 讓LBJ休息了兩分鐘,但是卻得不了分。等他回來後,他們試著讓 LBJ來主導進攻,然而上述的事情就是我所觀察到的,他們還是得不了分。 騎士隊在接下來的兩節半只得了51分,即使中間LBJ參與了不少次擋切。 Even at that, the scoring plays tended to be the rare exceptions that weren't for James: post-ups for Shaq, screen-and-rolls for Williams, even an open-court basket-and-1 for Zydrunas Ilgauskas when the Celtics botched a trap at the end of the first half. 事實上,這些分數多數來自一些LBJ不參與的進攻裡,譬如大歐的低位, 毛威的擋切跳投,甚至大Z的那次籃下空檔上籃進算。 Thus, the most logical conclusion is that the elbow was a major factor and that it affected LeBron mentally as much as physically. We have one other data point to support us: his track record in this series. Since Game 5 of the Chicago series, James' effectiveness has correlated directly with how much rest he had between games. 所以最合理的解釋就是LBJ的手肘對他不管是身體上還是心理上都成 了一個負擔。我還有另一點可以佐證,就是他在系列賽中的表現。 他的效率跟他休息的天數成完全正相關。 Witness: Games 2, 4 and 5 came with just one day of rest; in those three, he shot 0-for-13 on 3s and 17-for-47 overall. Games 1 and 3, on the other hand, had an extra day of rest beforehand, which seemed to allow his elbow to feel much better: In those two contests, he was a one-man wrecking crew, making 26 of 46 shots from the floor and scoring 73 points. Needless to say, those were the two Cleveland wins in this series. 在game2, 4, 5裡,LBJ只有一天休息,這三場比賽他的三分球 0-13, 總共17-47。Game 1和3裡,他多了幾天休息,也似乎讓他的手肘好不少, 這兩場比賽裡,他又成為我們知道的LBJ,26-46,總共得73分。 當然不用我們多說,騎士也贏了這兩場比賽。 What it all means for the Cavs is rather worrisome because Thursday's must-win Game 6 (8 p.m. ET, ESPN) comes on one day's rest again. The silver lining is that Cleveland would have two days off before Game 7, which means it probably would have something closer to a 100 percent LeBron for a potential rubber match. Unfortunately, the Cavs won't get past Game 6 unless James either attacks the basket with much more conviction or finds a way to sink a few jumpers despite the balky elbow. 而這個結果下來就會產生讓所有騎士迷擔心的事情,因為game6也只有 休息一天的機會。騎士的優勢是如果有第七場,那有兩天休息機會,或許 足夠讓我們看到一個比較正常的LBJ。很不幸的,這個情況並不會發生, 除非LBJ突然找到能讓自己在手肘疼痛下還能正常發揮的方法。 ===================================== 文章最後說的我在之前的討論也提到 ,我只是在想如果LBJ放棄game 4,直接不打 然後改拼game5和game 7,或許還有點機會, 而且我覺得隊友會比較知道狀況,而不是讓LBJ在場上,卻做一些他 正常時候不會做的事情,讓隊友也很confuse,譬如幾個傳球, 我覺得隊友根本沒有料到他會傳,但是我覺得當LBJ傳給沒有空檔 的隊友時,這兩場比賽我覺得真的都是在求救的感覺, game6要贏真的要有奇蹟,尤其普賽現在清楚知道Cavs的弱點何在 game6只會讓這個缺點更提早顯現出來 其實我想最不爽的是LBJ本人吧,不過又不能表現出來,也處在滿可憐的狀況 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 164.67.139.55

05/13 03:17, , 1F
另外我重新看了一下記者會,我覺得情況真的不妙,LBJ不喜歡人
05/13 03:17, 1F

05/13 03:17, , 2F
家說三道四,也喜歡強調自己言出必行,他的記者會回答讓我覺
05/13 03:17, 2F

05/13 03:18, , 3F
得他是在對自己回答,一會兒說檯面下的原因不是理由,一會兒
05/13 03:18, 3F

05/13 03:18, , 4F
說普賽也很強,一會兒又說自己手感冷還是搶了一些板和助攻也
05/13 03:18, 4F

05/13 03:19, , 5F
不無小補(有點對照之前他說會用其他方式幫助球隊的感覺)唉
05/13 03:19, 5F

05/13 03:26, , 6F
實在很想看到Cavs眾將官們多些篤定的眼神,就如同
05/13 03:26, 6F

05/13 03:27, , 7F
如同魚住被攆下場時,他們心裡想著「我們還有仙道」
05/13 03:27, 7F

05/13 03:32, , 8F
明天的G6一定要贏下...希望有奇蹟發生....Cavs GO
05/13 03:32, 8F

05/13 03:33, , 9F
另外有一點LBJ不敢講受傷得原因就是,他若講我受傷且傷得
05/13 03:33, 9F

05/13 03:33, , 10F
很嚴重,接下來整個系列賽將會失焦,整個媒體最大的興趣
05/13 03:33, 10F

05/13 03:34, , 11F
不會是誰輸誰贏而是LBJ您下一季會待在騎士嗎???這樣球員,
05/13 03:34, 11F

05/13 03:35, , 12F
教練跟球迷都會一起崩潰...
05/13 03:35, 12F

05/13 03:37, , 13F
現在只希望G6 其他人可以跳出來帶領騎士贏球
05/13 03:37, 13F

05/13 03:37, , 14F
到G7之前 LBJ的狀態可能都沒辦法好轉吧..
05/13 03:37, 14F

05/13 03:45, , 15F
LBJ不只是LBJ阿,他代表很多人的託付跟商業利益
05/13 03:45, 15F

05/13 03:45, , 16F
LBJ受傷,慘叫最大聲的應該是Nike吧
05/13 03:45, 16F

05/13 03:48, , 17F
看到這篇真的很X 奇蹟來了過了普賽又如何呢?
05/13 03:48, 17F

05/13 03:49, , 18F
要過魔術要好幾個奇蹟 爭冠也要奇蹟 哪來這麼多奇蹟
05/13 03:49, 18F

05/13 03:50, , 19F
LBJ放著給他爛算了 同心協力痛快的打一場好好休息吧
05/13 03:50, 19F

05/13 04:12, , 20F
用「放著給他爛」這種字眼,話說的重了點
05/13 04:12, 20F

05/13 07:02, , 21F
放著給他爛太誇張,kuofish兄還處於憤怒的階段 ~_~
05/13 07:02, 21F

05/13 08:24, , 22F
05/13 08:24, 22F

05/13 08:49, , 23F
雖然情勢看起來非常不樂觀,但仍然抱持著希望!!
05/13 08:49, 23F

05/13 09:30, , 24F
推薦這篇文章!!! 求神給奇蹟給騎士戰術 給奇蹟給LBJ!!!
05/13 09:30, 24F

05/15 23:41, , 25F
LBJ牠媽原來是隻死PUMA 難怪生出這個懶趴沾屎的逼機狗雜種!
05/15 23:41, 25F

12/10 00:38, 6年前 , 26F
家說三道四,也喜歡強調 https://daxiv.com
12/10 00:38, 26F

04/18 19:19, 6年前 , 27F
另外有一點LBJ不敢講 http://yofuk.com
04/18 19:19, 27F
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