[Rumor] Ray Allen <===> Kevin Martin

看板Celtics (波士頓 塞爾提克)作者 (Puff Gasoft)時間16年前 (2010/02/08 21:11), 編輯推噓40(40030)
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新聞出處(必填):http://0rz.tw/VfweT http://0rz.tw/FFq87 作者:Ken Berger Celtics, Allen on trade clock Few grand conclusions can be drawn from February NBA games. But in this case, the Celtics' latest disappointing loss only underscored what has been a poorly kept secret among NBA executives for weeks: Ray Allen's time in Boston is likely coming to an end. Thanks to a non-competitive third quarter, the Celtics fell to Orlando 96-89 on Sunday, dropping them to third in the East behind the Cavs and Magic. The struggling Celtics still have three games against Cleveland to prove they haven't fallen from elite status. But after going 1-3 against Orlando and 0-4 against Atlanta, the Celtics have reached a crossroads in their bid to milk one more championship banner out of the Allen-Paul Pierce-Kevin Garnett era. Don't bet on every member of the Big Three being around beyond the Feb. 18 trade deadline. Though team president Danny Ainge has publicly ridiculed the Allen trade reports, several NBA executives told CBSSports.com that the Celtics have been actively trying to parlay Allen's $19.7 million expiring contract into an asset that could keep them in the mix during the upcoming playoffs and also help them for the next several seasons. The most recent inquiry, sources say, involved Sacramento sharpshooter Kevin Martin, who'd be a good fit with Boston's remaining core. Kings officials might be talked out of their reluctance to deal Martin if they could pry a prolific big man out of a third team brought into the discussions or in a separate transaction before the deadline. The bottom line is that Ainge, who saved his job by pulling off the perfect storm of trades that yielded Allen and Garnett three years ago, has made it clear in private conversations that he's "not going back to the abyss," according to one person familiar with the discussions. "Danny has said, 'I can't go back to square one where we were prior to the Garnett deal,'" the person said. "At the All-Star break, they’re going to look in the mirror and say, 'Cleveland got better, we can't beat Orlando, and we can't even beat the Hawks. We’re not going to win it this year.'" If the Celtics kept Allen and let his contract come off the books, they'd still be over the cap this summer with no avenues besides sign-and-trades to acquire a starting shooting guard. That's why Boston also has expressed interest in the Bulls' Kirk Hinrich, an excellent defender and ball-handler who would give the Celtics a starting two guard next season at $9 million and in 2011-12 at $8 million. The Bulls' motivation would be cap relief. The Kings, who are not planning to be big free-agent shoppers this summer, aren't seeking to acquire cap space alone. They want assets -- and the Celtics don't have a young big man to offer. The Bulls, who almost certainly will move Tyrus Thomas, might need to be invited into that conversation to satisfy everyone's needs. Whatever avenue they pursue, the Celtics don't want to go into this summer with no cap flexibility and no assets that could be used to keep them among the elite. Before Ainge struck the 2007 draft-related deal for Allen and then plucked Garnett from Minnesota with the help of former teammate Kevin McHale, the Celtics had just endured a 24-win season and hadn't been out of the first round since 2002-03. Ainge and Doc Rivers were on the brink of getting fired until the perfect remedy presented itself -- and the Celtics parlayed the Allen and Garnett deals into their 17th NBA title. "Kevin McHale's out of the league," one rival executive said, only half-joking. "So they're not going to be able to recreate that deal again." The period leading up to that was so grim that nobody in the organization wants to revisit it. The best way to avoid such a scenario would be to part ways with Allen. It wouldn't be starting over. Instead, it would be a bold attempt to have a chance against Cleveland, Orlando, and Atlanta in the playoffs and avoid going back to the depths of rebuilding. Would you trade Ray Allen for Kevin Martin? 72% Yes ████████ 902 votes 27% No ███ 349 votes -- ┌這篇文章讓您覺得?────────────────────────────┐ │ │ 一"一 \ / >\\\< ╯ ╰ ∩ ∩ ▁ ▁_< ㄧ ㄧ+ │ ε Δ ╰╯ 北七 亂喔 害羞 莎笅 爽啦 哭爸 XD 科科 └───────────────────http://www.wretch.cc/album/sulicon──┘ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.136.56.219

02/08 21:15, , 1F
險路勿近啊~不過我們真的需要個妹妹頭殺手...
02/08 21:15, 1F

02/08 21:15, , 2F
順便把Rando一起打包換evans吧..
02/08 21:15, 2F

02/08 21:24, , 3F
完了
02/08 21:24, 3F

02/08 21:27, , 4F
rumor愈來愈多了 看來今年說不定會成真…
02/08 21:27, 4F

02/08 21:40, , 5F
唉~希望三巨頭不要拆夥啊 阿炮走就超惋惜的
02/08 21:40, 5F

02/08 21:54, , 6F
no.........
02/08 21:54, 6F

02/08 21:55, , 7F
KM太玻璃人了吧 風險頗高的投資
02/08 21:55, 7F

02/08 22:01, , 8F
乳摸講不完~無止盡的迴圈!等成真再說~
02/08 22:01, 8F

02/08 22:07, , 9F
72% 是C's官網投票的結果嗎...orz
02/08 22:07, 9F

02/08 22:10, , 10F
ray不要走!走了我就沒動力早起看比賽了............
02/08 22:10, 10F

02/08 22:11, , 11F
Martin健康的話 進攻可期待 防守會是洞
02/08 22:11, 11F

02/08 22:12, , 12F
不過只拿到Martin...也不太想換 應該還有更棒的交易
02/08 22:12, 12F

02/08 22:14, , 13F
加個Casspi好了...慢慢想XD
02/08 22:14, 13F

02/08 22:18, , 14F
NO!!!!!!!!
02/08 22:18, 14F

02/08 22:29, , 15F
完了
02/08 22:29, 15F

02/08 22:37, , 16F
如果ray得走 希望能把ray送去強隊 想看他打季後賽
02/08 22:37, 16F

02/08 22:39, , 17F
老實說 如果好好用ray能撐至少2-3年 像hill那樣
02/08 22:39, 17F

02/08 22:41, , 18F
希望看到的是他光榮退休 不是被遺棄而淡出NBA
02/08 22:41, 18F

02/08 22:50, , 19F
有看到三方交易換來Igoudala 這我還比較能接受
02/08 22:50, 19F

02/08 22:53, , 20F
會有乳摸不意外 第三節先發打這麼爛 全部都該被幹譙
02/08 22:53, 20F
danielprince:轉錄至看板 NBA 02/08 23:19

02/08 23:19, , 21F
強隊怎麼可能給C's他們強的原因...
02/08 23:19, 21F

02/08 23:21, , 22F
不好巴= = 哭哭 這樣都不想看了
02/08 23:21, 22F

02/08 23:29, , 23F
Martin太容易受傷了....
02/08 23:29, 23F

02/08 23:38, , 24F
問題在ray換他沒話講 退化的明明是kg 要動也動他
02/08 23:38, 24F

02/08 23:44, , 25F
KG的約到後年 交易價值沒ray的到期約高
02/08 23:44, 25F

02/08 23:51, , 26F
剛剛看了一下KM的薪資才10M左右 不會只有一換一
02/08 23:51, 26F

02/08 23:52, , 27F
有可能引進第三隊變三方交易
02/08 23:52, 27F

02/08 23:52, , 28F
如果可以用馬刺的暗黑兵法的話...
02/08 23:52, 28F

02/09 00:05, , 29F
換KG C's的防守體系就垮了
02/09 00:05, 29F

02/09 00:08, , 30F
內文有提到會拉別人來三方交易的方案
02/09 00:08, 30F

02/09 00:39, , 31F
不要吧...防守真的是個洞阿...
02/09 00:39, 31F

02/09 00:57, , 32F
不要鬧 KM是有當過等球射手嗎? 來了還不是跟Ray一樣
02/09 00:57, 32F

02/09 00:58, , 33F
嚴重懷疑那民調的公正性....
02/09 00:58, 33F

02/09 01:26, , 34F
快換吧!我已經快對超賽沒信心了~
02/09 01:26, 34F

02/09 01:51, , 35F
kg就算在退化 他還是整個防守體系的重點=_=
02/09 01:51, 35F

02/09 02:59, , 36F
KM頗為玻璃
02/09 02:59, 36F

02/09 10:07, , 37F
..............
02/09 10:07, 37F

02/09 10:09, , 38F
好爛的Rumor
02/09 10:09, 38F

02/09 10:24, , 39F
哦耶 一起床就聽到好消息 希望這是真的 不會是rumor
02/09 10:24, 39F

02/09 11:01, , 40F
BOS賠大了
02/09 11:01, 40F

02/09 11:43, , 41F
樓上我覺得大賺耶 34歲的Ray換26歲的KM,哪裡虧大了?
02/09 11:43, 41F

02/09 11:48, , 42F
大賺阿 可是我不太喜歡他 = ="
02/09 11:48, 42F

02/09 12:46, , 43F
印象中 KM的防守積極度不如雷槍
02/09 12:46, 43F

02/09 12:57, , 44F
小馬汀算是一個洞吧
02/09 12:57, 44F

02/09 13:05, , 45F
這種乳摸都看看就好
02/09 13:05, 45F

02/09 13:16, , 46F
這摸其實不錯
02/09 13:16, 46F

02/09 13:19, , 47F
但是換ㄗㄍㄐ就差不多絕緣了 著眼未來 ...
02/09 13:19, 47F

02/09 14:14, , 48F
KM防守不算好吧
02/09 14:14, 48F

02/09 14:53, , 49F
Ray在BOS做的犧牲,竟換來季中交易?! 好樣的...
02/09 14:53, 49F

02/09 14:55, , 50F
除非換來LBJ,不然沒有換Ray的可能
02/09 14:55, 50F

02/09 15:06, , 51F
OK!我只能看國王比賽了
02/09 15:06, 51F

02/09 15:52, , 52F
其實還好啦~對BOS來講與其今年這樣跌跌撞撞,作個交易
02/09 15:52, 52F

02/09 15:52, , 53F
把球隊未來的核心給建立起來,會在三巨頭年老之後省掉
02/09 15:52, 53F

02/09 15:53, , 54F
一段痛苦的重建期,這也是Ainge不想再碰到的~
02/09 15:53, 54F

02/09 15:54, , 55F
只是與其現在換 寧願等暑假
02/09 15:54, 55F

02/09 16:11, , 56F
我想BOS高層主要是著眼於Ray到期約的交易價值,何況暑
02/09 16:11, 56F

02/09 16:12, , 57F
假BOS的薪資也滿了,搶不到什麼魚~
02/09 16:12, 57F

02/09 16:32, , 58F
走了的話也有板友要搬家了=_=
02/09 16:32, 58F

02/09 16:52, , 59F
幹 換小馬丁還不如換VC 至少還是三巨頭 而且VC也只剩
02/09 16:52, 59F

02/09 16:53, , 60F
跳投了 剛好是賽對想要的~
02/09 16:53, 60F

02/09 17:54, , 61F
這成真的可能性有多少??
02/09 17:54, 61F

02/09 23:47, , 62F
換VC來幹麻 墊底嗎
02/09 23:47, 62F

02/09 23:48, , 63F
個人偏好不要換等明年找自由球員
02/09 23:48, 63F

02/09 23:49, , 64F
不過如果真要換 我覺得小AI>KM>>>>>>VC
02/09 23:49, 64F

02/09 23:59, , 65F
但是ANGIE是很大膽+奸的經理 猜不到他想什麼XDD
02/09 23:59, 65F

02/10 02:49, , 66F
VC算了 支持版主的論點
02/10 02:49, 66F

02/10 23:36, , 67F
換 VC,乾脆留著 Ray 還強多了= =
02/10 23:36, 67F

02/11 11:15, , 68F
暑假薪資上限就算不調降,BOS也沒有空間找大牌的FA~
02/11 11:15, 68F

12/10 12:21, 7年前 , 69F
我想BOS高層主要是著 https://noxiv.com
12/10 12:21, 69F

04/18 20:45, 7年前 , 70F
no......... https://moxox.com
04/18 20:45, 70F
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