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[外電] Why go away from Rondo in crunch time?

看板Celtics (波士頓 塞爾提克)作者 (其實我很帥)時間16年前 (2010/02/22 19:03), 編輯推噓16(16推 0噓 52→)
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Why go away from Rondo in crunch time? February 19, 2010 at 11:00 AM http://www.redsarmy.com/home/2010/02/why-go-away-from-rondo-in-crunch-time.html http://tinyurl.com/yebuybh 撇開傷病不談，PP這種球員有時候需要比較特別的激勵來著...... --------------------------------------------- Rajon Rondo is stepping into his own as an NBA point guard. He's easily the fastest guy on the team... the best passer on the team... and the best ball handler on the team. 基於以上這些理由...... So why, in crunch time, do the Celtics insist on going away from running the offense that works to go to a Paul Pierce/Kevin Garnett pick and roll at the top of the key? Why... when the Celtics offense is clearly at its best when Rajon Rondo penetrates and finds guys when the defense collapses... do you eliminate Rondo from the play entirely? Is it because he "can't shoot"? There are two things wrong with that. 1: He's actually shooting pretty well 10-15 feet from the basket. 2: If you put him on the wing while Pierce and KG play a 2 man game up top, Rondo's guy will just slide off and sort of play free safety... clogging the lane Pierce so desperately wants to find. Let Rondo's guy back off him at the top of the key. Let Rondo take a couple of jumpers around the free throw line. he's making those shots. Or let Rondo... the fastest guy on the court by a wide margin... penetrate and find someone. 關鍵時刻RONDO的消失是可議的。 為什麼隊長和真男人的批肯肉一定要是我們在關鍵時刻的首選？我們要知道RONDO應有的發 揮不只如此而已。 不能讓RONDO參予關鍵時刻，難道是因為他不擅長「投籃」嗎？ 但事實是──他的投籃並不壞，他能有10-15的水準，他和隊長、真男人能有更好的 配合，而非在關鍵時刻排除他，他的出手、球場上的速度和滲透能力在在都有助於球隊。 And if, after 12-14 seconds nothing develops... THEN you let Pierce and KG run the pick and roll. That's plenty of time for them to work something out. But this 4th quarter walking the ball up the floor with Paul Pierce until KG decides to come up and set the pick is killing the C's offensive flow. It's no wonder the guys suddenly aren't scoring in the 4th. They're suddenly a different team when Pierce plays point-forward and the Celtics seem content to go 2-on-5. Ray has no reason to run off any picks to get open... Perk and Rondo just stand there... and the team pretty much just settles for one shot and that's it. 和湖人的這場比賽，隊長在第四節關鍵時刻處理球處理得並不理想，一如既往的PP-KG 批肯肉，但是球在場上卻停止流動了，比賽就像變成了2對5，雷槍失去空間，PERK和 RONDO也只剩下站著而已。 What I don't know here is whether Pierce is doing this because he feels like "I'm the captain, I'm the scorer, this is my time to take over"... OR... if this is a case of "I'm tired, I can't run through the offense to get the ball and still make a move, so I'm going to take 10 seconds to gather my energy for one big burst to the basket because that's all I got right now." 我不明白隊長怎麼會變成這個樣子......(／‵Д′)／~ ╧╧ 他畢竟有身為隊長的責任，和身為得分好手的使命，讓他在關鍵時刻絕不放手 但也可能是因為他累了，所以他處理球變得更慢慢吞吞了...... (本來動作就很慢，現在又更慢了.....囧) I'm hoping its not the latter. If it is, then Doc needs to not play him 40 minutes (Doc gets a pass on last night, with Tony Allen injured and no Nate Robinson/Eddie House). If it's the former, then Pierce has to recognize that he can still be the man who takes over while still running the offense. 我希望隊長的表現不是後者，河流根本不應該讓隊長的上場時間超過40分鐘。 而關於前者，我們的隊長早就已經向世人證明過了。 Whatever the reason, you have to do what you always do to succeed. You can't suddenly turn into something else because the ripple effect is bad. I love Pierce and I think he'll still hit the clutch shots for you... but we can't sacrifice 3 other guys in the offense to guarantee that he'll be taking that shot. It's too disruptive and it does more harm than good. 無論是什麼理由，所有我們做的，都是為了成功。 我愛隊長！(真的~) 我仍然認為他在關鍵時刻是可靠的！但是我們不應該因為把球給他，而忽略場上另外三名球 員的存在。 # --------------------------------------- 感覺是一篇有絃外之音的外電~? XDDDDDD 看起來是在講球員關鍵時刻處理球的問題，其實是暗批河流??????? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.43.128.11
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02/22 19:05, , 1F
說著說著就來了XD
02/22 19:05, 1F
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02/22 19:06, , 2F
換Ray跟KG批肯肉看看,Ray目前的切入狀況很不錯
02/22 19:06, 2F
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02/22 19:08, , 3F
Rondo的高命中率的確多來自於上籃,中距離相對的仍沒
02/22 19:08, 3F
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02/22 19:08, , 4F
比較穩,實在也不太了解怎麼第四節他就像消失了一樣
02/22 19:08, 4F
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02/22 19:12, , 5F
因為PP眼殘XD 第四節除了KG看不到其他人XDDDDDDD
02/22 19:12, 5F
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02/22 19:13, , 6F
說實在的PP持球單打成功率越來越低了,傳球也不知道
02/22 19:13, 6F
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02/22 19:13, , 7F
感覺是很含蓄的狠狠批了PP一番，似乎認為他心態不對
02/22 19:13, 7F
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02/22 19:14, , 8F
在搞什麼,雖然他是GAP裡最年輕的,但我覺得他會跟GA
02/22 19:14, 8F
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02/22 19:14, , 9F
不過，作者覺得Rondo可以投10-15呎中距離，是真的嗎?
02/22 19:14, 9F
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02/22 19:15, , 10F
一同退休,他的打法越老越不易成功,除非轉型成...射手
02/22 19:15, 10F
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02/22 19:17, , 11F
PP感覺上個球季操太兇 燃燒怠盡了
02/22 19:17, 11F
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02/22 19:17, , 12F
PP的心態是一個問題 不過RONDO是否真的關鍵時刻被排
02/22 19:17, 12F
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02/22 19:18, , 13F
除才是重點
02/22 19:18, 13F
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02/22 19:19, , 14F
君不見RONDO的持球時間長短和傳球喜好問題....XDDDDD
02/22 19:19, 14F
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02/22 19:19, , 15F
上次看對拓荒者跟湖人的比賽，覺得PP整場都隱形了
02/22 19:19, 15F
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02/22 19:20, , 16F
PP最近三場 狀況實在很差
02/22 19:20, 16F
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02/22 19:23, , 17F
關鍵時刻讓Rondo處理球會被幹到爆吧
02/22 19:23, 17F
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02/22 19:24, , 18F
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
02/22 19:24, 18F
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02/22 19:24, , 19F
一直覺得PP是唯一能處理關鍵時刻的球員，不過現在...
02/22 19:24, 19F
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02/22 19:26, , 20F
KG跟RAY都太習慣避免碰撞了，實在不適合關鍵時刻
02/22 19:26, 20F
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02/22 19:26, , 21F
"處理"是不是只有他我不清楚,"執行"的就不只有他一個
02/22 19:26, 21F
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02/22 19:26, , 22F
軟豆又沒有中距離。看來只好期待跳豆了..........
02/22 19:26, 22F
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02/22 19:27, , 23F
Perk：（臭臉）
02/22 19:27, 23F
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02/22 19:27, , 24F
我覺得軟豆關鍵時刻真的是整個消失
02/22 19:27, 24F
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02/22 19:29, , 25F
要能切能傳能投，單打又夠強的人才適合,軟豆不行吧..
02/22 19:29, 25F
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02/22 19:33, , 26F
我也很愛pp
02/22 19:33, 26F
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02/22 19:40, , 27F
Perk and1：（臭臉）
02/22 19:40, 27F
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02/22 20:02, , 28F
其實07-08關鍵時刻也是這樣打阿 差別只是PP會不會進
02/22 20:02, 28F
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02/22 20:03, , 29F
而已 PP似乎也老了
02/22 20:03, 29F
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02/22 21:20, , 30F
PP這幾場處理球一整個亂七八糟 感覺隨時都要丟掉一樣
02/22 21:20, 30F
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02/22 21:23, , 31F
只能說拇指受傷影響他很大 無論投籃 傳球或是運球
02/22 21:23, 31F
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02/22 22:37, , 32F
看成這是一篇紅音的外電...
02/22 22:37, 32F
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02/22 23:14, , 33F
雷槍爛完換PP爛 PP爛完換??
02/22 23:14, 33F
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02/22 23:17, , 34F
換對手倒大楣了
02/22 23:17, 34F
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02/22 23:25, , 35F
推翻譯辛苦了
02/22 23:25, 35F
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02/22 23:40, , 36F
不過我覺得大家對雷槍的包容度真的高其他人很多
02/22 23:40, 36F
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02/23 00:06, , 37F
誰叫PP是第四節先生 XDDDDD對他期望也是最高
02/23 00:06, 37F
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02/23 00:16, , 38F
我自己是覺得雷槍就算命中率高，跑位還是很有用處
02/23 00:16, 38F
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02/23 00:17, , 39F
PP最近不僅命中率差，失誤也多，進攻像是隱形一樣
02/23 00:17, 39F
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02/23 00:17, , 40F
倒不是包容雷槍，是看比賽內容雷槍真的沒那麼爛
02/23 00:17, 40F
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02/23 00:18, , 41F
第一句打錯。應該是就算命中率"低"
02/23 00:18, 41F
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02/23 00:50, , 42F
傷病陷入低潮而已，同為98梯，VC也經歷一段慘澹時光
02/23 00:50, 42F
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02/23 00:52, , 43F
雷槍就不是這問題(傷病)，但其實也沒甚麼問題，還沒
02/23 00:52, 43F
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02/23 00:53, , 44F
發飆之前數據總是比較普通，把他表現逐月拆來看
02/23 00:53, 44F
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02/23 00:55, , 45F
上場的時間跟他的表現也沒有甚麼相關性。
02/23 00:55, 45F
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02/23 00:57, , 46F
只是因為年齡對未來不利，純以表現看，VC前一陣子早
02/23 00:57, 46F
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02/23 00:57, , 47F
該被交易一兩千次了吧，球迷還不是照挺。
02/23 00:57, 47F
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02/23 01:02, , 48F
我覺得投不進是一回事 但感覺PP最近連防守都很懶
02/23 01:02, 48F
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02/23 01:02, , 49F
畢竟正常的VC不是那個樣子，相信他不是嗎。
02/23 01:02, 49F
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02/23 01:15, , 50F
偶爾一兩場讓PP從板凳出發也是可行的
02/23 01:15, 50F
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02/23 01:16, , 51F
不管是什麼理由 只要輸球 PP都有責任
02/23 01:16, 51F
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02/23 01:17, , 52F
湖人這場 他的上場時間依然超過40分鐘......= =
02/23 01:17, 52F
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02/23 01:18, , 53F
但是傷病和疲累 都不是他身為綠血人可以有的藉口
02/23 01:18, 53F
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02/23 01:19, , 54F
看來KG自從腳傷以後 該不會垃圾話水準也下降了吧 XDD
02/23 01:19, 54F
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02/23 01:19, , 55F
現在正是KG應該要罵PP的時候
02/23 01:19, 55F
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02/23 01:20, , 56F
隊長你皮繃緊一點 最近實在欠罵呀 XDDDDDDDD
02/23 01:20, 56F
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02/23 01:22, , 57F
罵會有用嗎XD 傷病不能作為藉口，KG就應該被砲翻了吧
02/23 01:22, 57F
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02/23 01:23, , 58F
想起軟豆之前的談話，難道是在講PP嗎?
02/23 01:23, 58F
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02/23 01:23, , 59F
KG雖然表現下滑，態度還是蠻積極的...覺得PP變懶了
02/23 01:23, 59F
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02/23 12:22, , 60F
KG打球的態度真的沒話說
02/23 12:22, 60F
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02/23 20:44, , 61F
Pierce其實很少因傷請假...是那愛硬撐型的球員
02/23 20:44, 61F
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02/23 20:45, , 62F
會覺得Pierce打球怪怪的話...不用多想，一定傷滿嚴重
02/23 20:45, 62F
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02/23 20:46, , 63F
Pierce是該考慮先把傷養好了...可以先讓MD頂上來\
02/23 20:46, 63F
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02/23 20:47, , 64F
MD太久沒打球...看得出來有點生疏，讓他打久一些
02/23 20:47, 64F
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02/23 21:45, , 65F
還是快把手傷養好啦...三巨頭還需要輪到我們替他們
02/23 21:45, 65F
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02/23 21:45, , 66F
擔心嗎???
02/23 21:45, 66F
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12/10 12:22, 7年前 , 67F
看成這是一篇紅音的外電 https://muxiv.com
12/10 12:22, 67F
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04/18 20:46, 7年前 , 68F
換Ray跟KG批肯肉看 https://moxox.com
04/18 20:46, 68F
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