[外電] 賽爾提克應該追求Noel而不是表弟

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新聞出處(必填): https://goo.gl/A9vxdz 作者: Blakely 內容: When you first saw Sacramento’s DeMarcus Cousins giving the verbal business to a Sacramento columnist twice his age and half his size earlier this week, “trade ‘em to [pick a team]” came to mind. 當你這周第一次見到沙加緬度的Cousions, 和大他一倍年紀身材小他一半的當地專欄作家起了口角, "找之球隊交易他吧"的想法躍於心頭。 And when Philadelphia’s Nerlens Noel reminded us all that his value is worth more than eight minutes, yup, he needs to be sent packing as well. 當費城的Noel提醒著我們他的價值不只有八分鐘, 是的,他也需要被交易。 The Celtics have been linked with both players in the past. 過去賽爾提克就曾與這兩位球員有過傳言。 And while there’s no question each has a skill that would benefit Boston, there’s only one of these two that makes sense for the Celtics to consider. 毫無疑問的這兩位球員都能對波士頓有所貢獻, 但這兩位之中僅有一位值得賽爾提克去考慮。 It’s Nerlens Noel. 那就是Noel。 Let’s forget for a moment that he’s a Massachusetts native, which I have been told multiple times has “absolutely zero” to do with Boston’s interest in him. 讓我們暫時忘了他是麻薩諸塞州當地人, 這我已經說過好多次了, 這對球隊的考慮毫無關係。 Noel is an athletic, rim-protecting big man whose biggest knock up to this point in his career is how injuries seem to dog him at every turn. Noel是一位有運動能力籃框保護能力的大個子, 但每當他重返球場時就受傷病所困擾, 而這也是現在他職業生涯中最大的打擊。 And while no team likes the idea of players grumbling about minutes, there’s a different tone when I talk to league executives about Noel and what’s happening in Philadelphia. 沒有任何一支球隊喜歡球員抱怨他們的上場時間, 但當我對聯盟高層討論Noel和費城七六人隊所發生的事情時有些不同的想法, “I never like to hear that stuff, guys complaining about minutes publicly,” an assistant GM told CSNNE.com on Saturday. “But Philadelphia...they have too many bigs and they’re trying to make it work but you know and I know and Nerlens knows, somebody is going to get the short end of things when it comes to minutes. And Nerlens doesn’t want to be that guy. "我從不喜歡聽見這種事,一個人公開的抱怨上場時間"一位助理GM於周六告訴CSNNE, "但費城七六人......他們有太多大個子了,以及他們正設法讓它運作, 不過你知道,我知道,Noel也知道,必須有某個人減少上場時間, 而Noel不希望自己成為那個人。" The assistant GM added, “young guys don’t mind learning and not playing if the guy ahead of him is better or more experienced. They see it as paying their dues. But that’s not the case with Nerlens. He’s as good or better than all their bigs except maybe [Joel] Embiid. So he’s like, ‘why am I not playing?’ And whatever they’re telling him, it’s not what wants to hear for sure.” 那位助理GM補充說道: "年輕球員不介意學習以及如果有人比他更好或更有經驗而坐板凳, 他們認為這是理所當然的,但Noel的案子則不同, 他是不錯,或是其他大個子中除了Embiid外更好的球員, 所以他感覺比較偏向'為什麼我不能上場?' 所以不管他們對他說甚麼, 那都不會是他想聽的。" In addition to Noel, the Sixers are also trying to find minutes for Embiid, Jahlil Okafor, Dario Saric as well as Robert Covington, who has looked strong in their small-ball lineup at power forward. And while Ben Simmons is considered more of a wing player, at 6-foot-10 he too will likely see some playing in the frontcourt because of the mismatch potential he presents. 除了Noel外,七六人也想為Embiid,Okafor,Saric和Convington增加上場時間, Convington在他們打小球陣容時擔任PF表現十分亮眼, 同時Simmons多被考慮為搖擺人, 有六尺十吋的他或許會偶爾看見他出現在前場, 因為他的出現可能可以造成錯位。 In other words, Philly’s frontline isn’t going to get any less congested anytime soon. 換句話說,七六人隊的前場將人滿為患。 But the Sixers have been reluctant to trade him not only because of his talent, but also because of their track record of bigs getting hurt is pretty extensive. The last thing they want to do is part ways with a big and then find themselves experiencing a shortage up front if there are added injuries to their roster. 但七六人隊一直不願意交易他不只是因為他的天賦, 也因為過去他們的大個子傷病史其來有自, 他們最不想見到的就是放手讓一個大個子離開, 後來發現他們自己球隊因為輪替又有人受傷而人手端缺無人填補。 And as far as Cousins is concerned, the Celtics’ connection with him has been more fantasy that for real, according to a team source who indicated they have not had any talks at any time with the Kings about acquiring Cousins. 只要表弟被關注到一定程度,塞爾提克與他間的傳聞幻想多於實際, 根據球隊消息來源指出,他們從未和國王隊有任何交易表弟的討論。 That coincides with reports that the Kings have not made it known to other teams that they are interested in trading Cousins, even as all involved understand that moving him is becoming more and more inevitable. 同時消息指出國王隊從未讓其他球隊知道他們想交易表弟, 即使所有人知道交易他變成越來越不可避免。 The Celtics may not be pursuing Cousins, but if the Kings get to the point where they are willing to trade him you can bet Boston will be one of the teams they will talk to. 賽爾提克或許不會追逐表弟, 但如果國王隊有了交易他的想法, 你可以打賭波士頓會是其中一支他們會詢問的球隊。 Boston has young, up and coming talent, lots of draft picks and players whose character isn’t an issue – an important factor that will come into play if Sacramento does in fact try to trade Cousins. 波士頓擁有年輕有企圖心的球員與許多的選秀權, 球員們的品行也不是問題, 這都是如果國王隊考慮表弟時的因素。 Look, talent is not an issue here. 注意,天分在這裡不是考慮因素。 The 6-foot-11 center has lots of it. 那六尺十一吋的中鋒擁有很多天分。 But here’s the issue. 但在這裡成為了問題。 (這段話是諷刺表弟的言行舉止) As much talent as Cousins has, it doesn’t trump the trouble that seems to follow him at every turn. 雖然表弟擁有許多天分,但這似乎不會替他擺平每次惹來的麻煩。 The recent blowup he had with a Sacramento-based columnist was just the latest in a long string of bad predicaments that Cousins consistently finds himself involved with. 最近他與沙加緬度專欄作家的口角, 只是他一系列陷入的困境中最新的一個。 If all the NBA were about was securing the best talent, acquiring him would be a no-brainer. 如果全NBA球隊的目標是以天分為最佳考量, 想辦法得到他是毋庸置疑的決定。 But that’s not how this works. 但偏偏事實並不是這樣。 And for those of us who have spent some time talking with Cousins in the past, he comes across as a very likeable guy who is often misunderstood. 就我們之中過去曾與表弟對話過的人, 表弟表現出是個經常被誤解但十分可愛的人。 But as you talk to him and listen to his words and see his actions, he’s misunderstood because he consistently allows himself to be put in predicaments that don’t portray him in the most flattering light. 但如果你與他對話,聽他說話的內容,以及看他的舉動, 他的誤解是因為他經常讓自己至於危險之下, 而沒讓真實的自己出現在閃光燈下。 And he gets upset at those who call him out on it, rather than him making the obvious changes needed. 他因為自己被那些人指名而感到沮喪, 而不是因此而做出明顯改變。 He’s a talented headache waiting to be had, which is the last thing Danny Ainge or Brad Stevens wants or needs right now. 他是一個等待被需要而有天分的頭痛人物, 這是Ainge和BS現在如果希望得到他最終需要考慮的事。 This group of Celtics certainly have their flaws, but you really don’t see them play the blame game too much. 賽爾提克這支隊伍確實有他們的缺點, 但你真的不會想看到他們經常抱怨著比賽。 When a guy screws up, he knows it, usually owns it, and they move on. 當一個人搞砸了,他知道這件事實,通常會承認他,以及改進。 And the screw-ups are usually limited to what happens on the floor, not what transpires at a night club. 那些搞砸的事通常會限制在場上的表現, 而不會在夜店中表現出來。 There is no denying that the Celtics are in the market for adding a player who can provide a stronger frontline presence whether it’s better scoring or an upgrade defensively. 不得不承認賽爾提克需要在市場上尋找一個能提供幫助的前場球員, 不論是得分或是增強防守方面。 And if you know anything about Ainge, he’s always looking to get as much talent while rendering the least amount of assets which makes both Cousins and Noel palatable because their respective teams have to know by now that they’re not going to get comparable value for them via trade. 如果你了解Ainge,他總是想要用最小的成本盡可能得到有天分的球員, 這讓表弟和Noel變得更為可口, 因為他們的球隊知道現在他們沒辦法經過交易得到相符的價值。 If you’re the Celtics, you take a call from either franchise if they want to talk about these players. 如果你是賽爾提克,當他們球隊想討論這些球員你會接到他們的電話。 But as far as seriously considering a trade, there’s only one choice that can help the Celtics (it’ll be later rather than sooner), both on and off the court, and that’s Noel. 但當認真考慮交易時,只有一個選擇能夠幫助賽爾提克(放長遠來看), 不論場上或場下,那會是Noel。 心得: 翻譯不通順的地方很多請見諒, 有更好的翻譯解釋請告訴我,謝謝。 Noel,Cousions,今晚你要選哪一道呢? -- 如果還有來世,我想當一個獸人 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.43.197.87 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Celtics/M.1482065830.A.A3E.html

12/18 21:07, , 1F
Noel
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12/18 21:09, , 2F
樓下noel
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12/18 21:10, , 3F
如果把noel弄來 薪資空間可以少很多吧
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12/18 21:13, , 4F
弄Noel來要丟誰
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12/18 21:18, , 5F
倒數第二段應該是指賽隊,不是指賽迷
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12/18 21:22, , 6F
如果你是賽隊的話,你會接到來自兩支球隊的電話
12/18 21:22, 6F
謝謝技術支援 ※ 編輯: humbler (114.43.197.87), 12/18/2016 21:24:40

12/18 21:23, , 7F
如果他們想要討論交易這些球員。
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12/18 21:26, , 8F
Noel來真的馬上補強到最弱的一環
12/18 21:26, 8F

12/18 21:27, , 9F
真的以為我們有得選嗎? 隨便有一個就偷笑了
12/18 21:27, 9F

12/18 21:28, , 10F
2k要換到至少要出到一個首輪才換得到!
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12/18 21:29, , 11F
76人大概會想要smart吧..
12/18 21:29, 11F

12/18 21:37, , 12F
一個傷病史 一個情緒容易被算計 算了 有就好QQ
12/18 21:37, 12F

12/18 21:38, , 13F
題外話 G大 八卦有篇白襯衫想挑戰你的王位 護駕rrrr
12/18 21:38, 13F

12/18 21:45, , 14F
76人沒興趣吧,明年一堆高順位PG,應該不會選不到
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12/18 21:46, , 15F
七六人會用西蒙子打PG,費城翔陽隊
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12/18 21:48, , 16F
恩 選擇權不在我們身上,我們能做的事備好籌碼等待
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12/18 21:52, , 17F
基本上還是看代價啦,Noel老話一句明年RFA要的話再
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12/18 21:54, , 18F
砸也不遲
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12/18 21:55, , 19F
是說新版CBA又增添了母隊留人的優勢,這下讓選秀眼光
12/18 21:55, 19F

12/18 21:55, , 20F
跟新秀養成變更重要了
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12/18 21:57, , 21F
應該也會讓身價高的選秀仔細審視可能前往的球隊XDDD
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12/18 21:59, , 22F
新秀審視沒用阿 Simmons選前都放話不去76人了 最後
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12/18 21:59, , 23F
還不是得乖乖報到?除非真的打定注意不來NBA
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12/18 22:01, , 24F
不然選秀前放再多話 球隊硬要選你,還不是要來?
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12/18 22:02, , 25F
看吧
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12/18 22:02, , 26F
哈哈~是說那也是因為第二順位是湖人啦,如果第二順
12/18 22:02, 26F

12/18 22:02, , 27F
位是灰熊或爵士,Simmons團隊大概就懶得放話了
12/18 22:02, 27F

12/18 22:06, , 28F
Noel的賣相似乎是擺越久就越低
12/18 22:06, 28F

12/18 22:11, , 29F
記得當初是要拿 #3換 沒換成
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12/18 22:13, , 30F
搞不好最後出 Rozier +個有保護首輪 就能換到了...
12/18 22:13, 30F

12/18 22:14, , 31F
RFA的價值看合約跟球員表現阿 Harden當初換那麼大包
12/18 22:14, 31F

12/18 22:14, , 32F
不就因為他表現好?現在Noel連上場時間都分不到,各
12/18 22:14, 32F

12/18 22:14, , 33F
隊主管難免會對他的狀態抱有疑慮
12/18 22:14, 33F

12/18 22:17, , 34F
幸好沒換阿~~~
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12/18 22:18, , 35F
講實在的,這篇是C's在流口水而已
12/18 22:18, 35F

12/18 22:19, , 36F
76ers跟Kings根本不缺買家......
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12/18 22:21, , 37F
看FA有沒有機會吧 76人不知道會不會跟進Noel的報價
12/18 22:21, 37F

12/18 22:22, , 38F
真要說把後衛拿來交易 除了IT外 其他後衛76人應該也
12/18 22:22, 38F

12/18 22:22, , 39F
沒興趣 畢竟明年選秀是後衛大年
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12/18 22:23, , 40F
他們又再一次有很大的機會拿到前三順位
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12/18 22:23, , 41F
Woj有講啊,考核Noel報告後有興趣的球隊變很少
12/18 22:23, 41F

12/18 22:23, , 42F
剩下仍有興趣的出得籌碼也沒有很好
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12/18 22:24, , 43F
我從來不肖想76人也是因為這樣 76人甚麼都不缺
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12/18 22:25, , 44F
重建中的球隊就是要找那種拿石頭砸自己的
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12/18 22:25, , 45F
Ainge就是這樣 你看搶了太陽
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12/18 22:25, , 46F
76人會有兩支高順位籤 缺啥自己選就行了。76人未來
12/18 22:25, 46F

12/18 22:25, , 47F
幾年的養成會很有趣 如果沒有任何交易發生的話
12/18 22:25, 47F

12/18 22:26, , 48F
看這個陣仗 下一個我猜是魔術 不過魔術應該沒那麼笨
12/18 22:26, 48F

12/18 22:27, , 49F
海尼根建隊方向雖然怪怪的 但是手腕還是不差
12/18 22:27, 49F

12/18 22:27, , 50F
七六人的薪資之後會更有趣滴
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12/18 22:31, , 51F
76這樣不錯啊 回到Holiday ET那種全民農場模式
12/18 22:31, 51F

12/18 22:48, , 52F
kk在老鷹待好幾年了 應該也不會想走了吧
12/18 22:48, 52F

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12/19 00:43, , 54F
Yabu如果可以養成米爺就很猛了
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12/19 01:21, , 55F
內線真的很難交易來波士頓,還是等吧
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12/19 07:01, , 56F
yabu近期如同海綿吸水的進步速度,真的很讓人期待啊.
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12/19 07:01, , 57F
..
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12/19 07:03, , 58F
看新聞賽爾提克好像還有派人到上海幫助yabu成長
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12/19 07:04, , 59F
不知道zizc有沒有這種待遇XD
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12/19 09:19, , 60F
總部有情報說Noel被冰了,看來應該是有交易要發生了
12/19 09:19, 60F

12/19 09:19, , 61F
,安吉抓好時機,要起飛啦啦啦啦
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12/19 09:19, , 62F
總版
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12/19 10:21, , 63F
交易是隨時都可以嗎?
12/19 10:21, 63F

12/19 10:21, , 64F
還是要等到明年一月中?
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12/19 10:23, , 65F
ainge應該還是會等她變成自由球員再拿
12/19 10:23, 65F

12/19 10:28, , 66F
RFA經過交易後還會保有資格嗎?如果會保留那就不能
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12/19 10:28, , 67F
等自由球員了,因為76人可能不跟是因為禁區太過擁
12/19 10:28, 67F

12/19 10:28, , 68F
擠,交易到其他隊就不會有這種問題了
12/19 10:28, 68F

12/19 12:12, , 69F
RFA會保留哦 現在肯丟籌碼去換Noel的
12/19 12:12, 69F

12/19 12:15, , 70F
應該就是拿批配資格 和評估自己能力可以跟到多少
12/19 12:15, 70F

12/19 12:18, , 71F
是否保有鳥權這個我就不清楚了 請其他大大解答
12/19 12:18, 71F

12/19 13:27, , 72F
當然是會保留阿,同樣的權利義務只是換球隊而已
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12/19 13:27, , 73F
不過他這樣放話,大家還是敢交易他來喔XD
12/19 13:27, 73F

12/19 23:42, , 74F
不管是Noel或是表弟最有可能拿到的時候都是FA的時候
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12/19 23:42, , 75F
考量到明年選秀大年的情況下不管是國王或是76人我
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12/19 23:42, , 76F
認為明年他們都會賭一把選一個好PG來配合鋒線
12/19 23:42, 76F
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