[外電] Solve the Bulls SG woes, start not-B …

看板ChicagoBulls (芝加哥公牛)作者eertllams (Tree666)時間14年前 (2010/12/28 05:24)推噓5(5推 0噓 1→)

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網路blogger Doug Thonus 針對Bogans已經發了很多篇文章 http://tinyurl.com/2ehllrh 這是Doug這篇文的原文連結他的論點都是討論把Brewer, Korver 或是CJ Watson拉到先發陣容去 Brewer的活動能力, Korver跟Rose同時在場上會比較好（因為Rose容易吸引包夾) 甚至CJ上去也比Bogans好～這些觀點在公牛討論區應該都是老調了但是教練不是我們教練為啥一直先發Bogans真正原因也很難說!! 下面的討論有指出會一直用Bogans打先發是因為 Thibodeau 喜歡有多人輪替 (就像他曾在Boston一樣) 他也喜歡Brewer跟Korver能在板凳上來給予對方痛擊跟CJ比起來 Bogans也是比較硬朗又很少失誤的後衛 (如果一直不進不能算是失誤的話) 我個人傾向於讓Brewer打先發把 Bogans的時間分給CJ跟Brewer CJ還是打替補好點不然陣容太矮 Korver的運動能力一般打先發不適合然後有個網友參與討論建議不只拿掉Bogans的時間更要把Deng的時間減少然後分析 Brewer跟 CJ多打的好處我讀完覺得算是不錯得論點以下為他的comment: RoadWarrior said: With the Bulls 0-5 against teams with winning records n the Eatern conference the question begs: does this team have the pieces to make a playoff run i.e get past the first round and possibly o the ECF? Answer: not if what were thought of as major pick ups C.J Watson, Kyle Korver, and Ronnie Brewer don't give you some serious production. Right now Korver(who I was not excited about when we picked him up - thought he was overrated) is giving you the identical numbers he did the last couple of seasons. But the same can not be said of Ronnie Brewer and certainly not what is looking like a dud(offensively) in C.J. Watson. Looking at Deng he looks like he's losing steam. His scoring is certainly down. Instead of playing him 38 mpg(minutes per game) why not try pulling what the Lakers did the last two seaons(when they won two world championships) with Lamar Odom. In both those season Odom averaged about 29mpg. While scoring 9-10 ppg(on high efficiency/FG%) with 9 boards per game. That is very good production, but also saves energy for outbursts in many games where they really need him. I think the same strategy could work with Deng. 他認為可以參考湖人隊使用Odom的方法與其讓Deng繼續打一場約38分鐘不如只讓Deng打30分鐘左右 Deng看起來是很累了讓他休息一些時間讓他可以專心防守還有在緊要關頭出來得分 Ronnie Brewer and C.J.(Watson) both average about 25-26 mpg, and correspondingly produce about 10ppg on high FG%. With Deng's minutes going down to say 32mpg that gives Ronnie some time at SF, and frees up minutes for C.J. at the two. Of course Bogans has to be taken out of the regular rotation seeing spot minutes only to keep him engaged when needed for foul trouble, injurie, etc. If we can simply get C.J. and Ronnie up their historic levels(with both still basically young players) then that's an extra 12ppg(?) with two very solid defenders on the floor. granted C.J is undersized, but he stays in front of his man very well from what I've seen/I've been impressed with his defensive effort/ability. 目前(Brewer + CJ) 總共每場上場36.2分鐘拿11.3分如果可以把 Deng的時間減少一點再把Bogans的時間(18.5 mpg)拿掉公牛只需要 Bogans在有人受傷或是犯規麻煩的時候再去頂頂那也許可以把 Brewer + CJ的得分多提高個12分左右後面讚揚 CJ一對一的防守很不錯很少失去位置不用擔心他的身材會被打點 ( 這個從我本季觀看CJ表現我還滿同意的 ) Then you have a Bulls/Lakers team strength effect with C.J., and Ronnie emerging with more production on a nightly basis, and others when they(including Deng) are in zone mode individually lifting the team. It's troubling to me that Thibs has let this pattern of offensive stagnation continue for so long clinging to high minutes for Deng while lowered time for known producers over the ineffective Bogans. The fact that he's applied no player minutes adjustment algebra so to speak to this situation to up production/chemistry to me is not a good sign. And when comparisons of Thibs/Bogans situation mirror Duhon/Skiles that definitely does not bode well for Thibs as we know Scott had/has his limitations offensively. Side note: I have to believe there is a better way for Korver to get open shots without all the crazy running through multiple screens to get open. If a defender is pinned to him then Boozer, Rose, or somebody else on the floor should be able t make them pay for that commitment. And Korver honestly does get many open looks on some nights, and surprisingly bricks them. Looking at his career numbers they absoluetly suggest role player/ not starter to me. Again, if C.J. and Ronnie get 25-26 minutes or above I think the chances for their production increasing not just on a per minutes basis, but exponentially as their history/career numbers show. 上面最後一段就是延續剛剛的討論繼續解釋我的總結一直過度使用一個球員沒有好處球員容易受傷關鍵時刻有心沒力不能把現有在名單的球員好好利用那也會造成很多後遺症好比說年輕球員無法累積上場經驗而從球賽得到進步指望交易也要看Paxon能端出啥好菜給別隊 Bogans在他得生涯裡面一直都是稱職的替補球員因為他有經驗有防守失誤不多但是一直把他放在先發陣容他佔得時間跟低得分(18分鐘 4分) 對球隊也許沒有傷害但是也沒有幫助 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 131.193.22.210