[外電] An advanced look at Keith Bogans

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連接 http://bullsbythehorns.com/?p=2590 有錯請指正 An advanced look at Keith Bogans K.C. Johnson of the Chicago Tribune wrote a piece about Keith Bogans that, essentially, absolves Bogans of his poor shooting and lack of scoring. 來自Chicago Tribune的K.C. Johnson寫了一篇文章基本上用來來幫Bogans漂白有關他糟糕 的命中率和缺乏得分手段的部分。 In doing so, Johnson cited Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau, who said: ”He’s always found a way either to start or be in the rotation for very good teams. If he’s guarding you, you know he’s guarding you. He’s going to make you work. He’s a physical player. He’s been shooting the 3 well. That’s critical for us. Keith gives you toughness. That’s important in this league. It’s a big part of being a good defensive team. And he does his job every day. Every day.” Johnson引用教練Tom Thibodeau的說法:"他總是能夠在好的球隊中獲得先發或是進入球隊 輪值陣容的機會。如果他在防守你,你會感受他的防守。"他會讓你不得不動起來。身體對 抗出色的球員。擁有好的三分。對我們來說至關重要。Bogans展現了他的堅韌。這在聯盟 中是很重要的。能為一支好的防守球隊提供很大的作用。他每天都在作他的工作。每一天 。" I get what Johnson and Thibs are saying, and I agree that PPG isn’t the best measure of a player’s worth. Still, out of curiosity, I went to Basketball-Reference and used the Play Index to compare the advanced statistics of all NBA guards who have started at least 35 games this season. Here are Bogans’ stats and rankings out of the 46 guards who qualified: 我明白Johnson and Thibs說的,我也明白場均得分不是衡量一位球員最好的方法。但是, 出於好奇,我到Basketball-Reference上利用Play Index比較了所有至少先發35場的NBA後 衛中的進階統計數據。下面是Bogans同另外46位後衛比較後各項數據的排名: Player Efficiency Rating: 7.1 (46th) 球員效率值 True Shooting Percentage: .510 (42nd) 真實命中率 Effective Field Goal Percentage: .500 (26th) 有效命中率 Offensive Rebound Percentage: 1.6 (33rd) 進攻籃板率 Defensive Rebound Percentage: 10.2 (18th) 防守籃板率 Total Rebound Percentage: 6.1 (23rd) 總籃板率 Assist Percentage: 9.5 (41st) 助攻率 Steal Percentage: 1.3 (38th) 抄截率 Block Percentage: 0.5 (19th) 阻攻率 Turnover Percentage: 12.7 (20th) 失誤率 Usage Percentage: 10.4 (45th) 進攻效率 Offensive Rating: 104 (41st) 進攻效率指數值 Defensive Rating: 103 (7th) 防守效率指數值 Offensive Win Shares: 0.3 (44th) 進攻勝利貢獻值 Defensive Win Shares: 1.3 (21st) 防守勝利貢獻值 Total Win Shares: 1.6 (43rd) 總勝利貢獻值 Win Shares Per 48 Minutes: 0.092 (34th) 每48分鐘勝利貢獻值 For the heck of it, here are his shooting stats among the 46 qualifying guards: 沒有什麼原因,順便列列一下他的命中率排名。 Field Goal Percentage: 38.1 (44th) 投籃命中率 Three-point Percentage: 33.6 (34th) 三分命中率 Free Throw Percentage: 59.1 (45th) 罰球命中率 Most notable, I suppose, are the shooting stats, which reveal that Bogans is one of the worst shooters among starting guards, and his dead-last ranking in PER, which provides a general measure of efficiency and productivity. 最引人矚目的,我想事關於投籃的統計數據,說明 Bogans是這群後衛中最差勁的射手, 他最終死在了PER上,一項衡量效率和產能的的統計數據,排在了最後一位。 He’s good at defense, though, hence the seventh-place ranking in Defensive Rating. Interestingly enough, Derrick Rose ranks fourth in that area (just behind Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo and Dwyane Wade) despite his ongoing (and possibly undeserved) reputation as a bad (at worst) to average (at best) defender. For the record, Rose also ranks second (behind Paul and just ahead of Wade and Rondo) among these 46 starting guards in Defensive Win Shares. (A lame apology to Derrick Rose http://0rz.tw/xY3ri) 他的防守不錯,雖然,他的防守效率指數值排在第七位。非常有趣的是,Derrick Rose排 在第四位(位于Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo 和Dwyane Wade之後)儘管他不斷(也許也被冤為) 被歸為是介於差勁(最差的情況)到平均(最好的情況)防守者。在防守勝利貢獻值一項, Rose排在第二位(位于Paul之後,在Wade 和Rondo之前)。 But, hey, what do advanced stats mean, anyway? 所以說,這些進階統計數據究竟說明了什麼? D-Ratings, Defensive Win Shares and even possession-specific data from Synergy Sports Technology aren’t admissible if you choose to disregard them. And, as Jake in Minnie pointed out in yesterday’s comments, PER certainly has its fair share of flaws, which sheds at least some doubt on the importance of Bogans’poor rating in that area. ( Synergy Sports Technology 一文 http://0rz.tw/7ID2u PER certainly has its fair share of flaws 一文 http://0rz.tw/tWysx 上面這篇是嗯...專家等級的文章 有興趣的可以看看 ) Synergy Sports Technology 並不受理防守指數值,防守勝利貢獻值和特定的數據如果你 選擇忽略它們。還有,如Jake昨天在Minnie上的評論指出的,PER確實在公平分配方面存在 者瑕疵,這也揭示了一些關於Bogans在這些項目中糟糕的排名方面重要的疑問。 So, at least for now, as much as some Bulls fans my not like it (and many of us do not), Thibs is going by the most basic statistics of all: wins and losses . 所以,目前為止,雖然有越來越的公牛球迷不喜歡(我們許多人則不),Thibs還是會依照最 簡單的統計來帶領球隊前進:勝利和失敗。 --

死都要用 Keith Bogans 先發....XD
嗯XDDD 且讓我們繼續看下去 有空再找時間翻一下 A lame apology to Derrick Rose 這篇 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 122.117.16.132

02/03 10:05, , 1F
CJ Watson可以當籌碼的說 我們可以先簽J-Will當替補PG
02/03 10:05, 1F

02/03 12:26, , 2F
CJ是很穩定的替補 Bogans是很好的鎖(稱得上大鎖?)
02/03 12:26, 2F

02/03 12:27, , 3F
個人覺得現在球隊狀況很好 應該不需要改變(等諾亞回來)
02/03 12:27, 3F
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