[外電] Can the Bulls win with Keith Bogans?

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http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_110321.html Can the Bulls win with Keith Bogans? Bulls.com's Sam Smith takes a look at the last 20 champions with their fifth scorer, his average, the team’s average points scored in the regular season and rank in the league By Sam Smith | asksam@bulls.com | 03.21.11 | 9:45 a.m. CT I’ve heard this about whether you can win a title with Keith Bogans, which is jumping ahead a bit for a group without a first round playoff series win. Perhaps the better question might be how did the Spurs win a title with Fabricio Oberto starting and averaging four points, or the Lakers with A.C. Green starting and averaging five points. 我曾聽過關於你是否可以在陣容裡有Bogans的情況下拿到總冠軍的問題，顯然這樣的討論對於一群連季後賽第一輪都還沒開始打的人來說有點太早了。也許比較適當的問題會是馬刺過去是怎麼樣在以Oberto先發且每場拿下四分或湖人在A.C葛林先發平均拿五分的情況下獲得冠軍。 Bogans has come under the most scrutiny of the Bulls players this season for basically a part-time player averaging about 17 minutes per game, and frankly, shooting a respectable 35.8 percent on threes, his primary offensive responsibility. It is above the league average and translates to better than 50 percent shooting on twos. Bogans已經成為了本季受到最多檢視的公牛球員，但是基本上他17分鐘的上場時間只是個打工球員，而他主要的進攻任務─三分球其實也有著35.8％的命中率，這已經在聯盟的平均之上而且比聯盟裡50％的二號球員來得好了。　 It’s generally agreed that defense wins, but you also have to score, an area the Bulls are among those found wanting this season, averaging 97.8 points for 20th in the NBA. In the last 20 years, only one team, the surprise 2004 Detroit Pistons, finished poorer than 18th in scoring and won the NBA title. The Pistons finished 24th. 基本上防守是勝利的關鍵是無庸置疑的，但是你依然必須得分，而這正是公牛本季所需要的，平均每場攻下97.8分全聯盟排名僅20。在過去20年來，只有一支球隊能在火力排名18 名以下還能獲得總冠軍的，那就是2004年的大驚奇，活塞，他們那一年的火力排名24。 Though the question regarding a player like Bogans is not whether you can win with a low scoring shooting guard, but whether a team can win with a low scoring fifth starter. The answer is, of course. In fact, every champion in the last 20 years has had a starter averaging less than double figures. Bogans averages four points, but in just over 17 minutes per game. 這個問題關心的不是球隊能否在以得分能力較差的SG先發的情況下贏球，而是球隊是否能在先發陣容的第五人得分能力較低的情況下贏球。事實上，答案是肯定的，過去20年每個冠軍陣容裡都有一位得分不到雙位數的先發球員，Bogans平均只有四分，但那是在每場只打17分鐘的情況下。 Here’s a look at the last 20 champions with their fifth scorer, his average, the team’s average points scored in the regular season and rank in the league: 我們來看看過去20年來冠軍陣容裡的第五先發得分手以及球隊在季賽中平均得分狀況的整理。 2010: Lakers, Derek Fisher, 7.5 per game. Team 101.7 (12) 2009: Lakers, Derek Fisher, 9.9 per game. Team 106.9 (3) 2008: Celtics, Kendrick Perkins, 6.9 per game. Team 100.5 (11) 2007: Spurs, Fabricio Oberto, 4.4 per game (Michael Finley 9.0). Team 98.5 (14) 2006: Heat, Udonis Haslem, 9.3 per game. Team 99.9 (6) 2005: Spurs, Bruce Bowen, 8.2 per game. Team 96.2 (18) 2004: Pistons, Ben Wallace, 9.5 per game. Team 90.1 (24) 2003: Spurs, Bruce Bowen, 7.1 per game. Team 95.8 (12) 2002: Lakers, Robert Horry, 6.8 per game. Team 101.3 (3) 2001: Lakers, Horace Grant, 8.5 per game. Team 100.6 (3) 2000: Lakers, A.C. Green, 5.0 per game. Team 1008. (6) 1999: Spurs, Mario Elie, 9.7 per game. Team 92.8 (13) 1998: Bulls, Ron Harper, 9.3 per game. Team 96.7 (9) 1997: Bulls, Ron Harper, 6.3 per game. Team 103.1 (1) 1996: Bulls, Ron Harper, 7.4 per game. Team 105.2 (1) 1995: Rockets, Mario Elie, 8.8 per game. Team 103.5 (8) 1994: Rockets, Robert Horry, 9.9 per game. Team 101.1 (13) 1993: Bulls, Bill Cartwright, 5.6 per game. Team 105.2 (15) 1992: Bulls, John Paxson, 7.0 per game. Team 109.9 (5) 1991: Bulls, John Paxson, 8.7 per game. Team 110.0 (7) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 公牛為什麼要簽下Pargo跟Lucas? Bulls add Pargo and Lucas, but why? -- Jannero Pargo and John Lucas III? Huh? Or something like that I’ve been asked since the Bulls announced their signings Sunday. Actually, it’s a very clever move if it is what I think it is. I wish I would have thought of it. The Bulls are going to have a very difficult time coming out of this next labor agreement—whenever that is—of improving their roster. Their likely won’t be another mid-level exception as league records show it to be the most egregious of contracts for money versus production. And with the extension for Derrick Rose, the Bulls would be way over whatever cap figure the NBA comes up with having four eight-figure annual players in Rose, Luol Deng, Carlos Boozer and Joakim Noah. 為啥要簽Pargo跟Lucas？這是我從公牛宣布簽下他們以來我不斷在問的問題。如果我猜得沒錯，實際上，這是一個非常聰明的舉動，而我早該想到了！公牛在新的勞資談判出來之後(不管那將是甚麼時候)會陷入難以強化陣容的情況。由於聯盟的經驗顯示，就投入─產出而言，MLE是一個最壞的合約，因此往後將不會再有 (上面這一句是真的假的...還是我翻錯啊？) 而公牛在與玫瑰續約後將會有四個年薪千萬的球員，因此不管怎樣一定會超過薪資上限。 So this is what I think the Bulls did. I don’t expect either Lucas or Pargo to play, given C.J. Watson has been adequate as a point guard backup and coach Tom Thibodeau has made it clear in the non-use of Rasual Butler he is going with the guys who got the team to this point. I expect Pargo and Lucas to be inactive the rest of the season, though they are playoff eligible in case of an injury. They agreed to non-guaranteed deals, similar to Keith Bogans’ contract, though for less money. So this is what the Bulls can do after July 1 to get a player. The thinking around the NBA is the new labor deal may force teams to shed some players like we saw in the NHL. The Bulls could build up, effectively, a $5 million form of a trade exception with the non-guaranteed contacts of Bogans, Lucas and Pargo, and if the rules remain similar, perhaps have the 125 percent so-called fudge factor in trades. The Bulls then could absorb a player making $5 million and the team giving him up could then cut the players they get back as the Bulls would likely throw in some incentive, like a draft pick. For about $5 million, you can get a quality starter and it would be just for these pieces. Otherwise, the Bulls would be in no position to add that kind of player. There’s no guarantee, obviously, but it potentially puts the Bulls in position to add a higher level talent than they would have been able to under what everyone expects the new rules to be. Not bad. 以下是我針對公牛可能的做法所進行的猜想。我不認為Lucas或Pargo會上場，畢竟C.J. 已經是一個適應良好的控衛替補，雖然前二者在有人受傷時仍可以在季後賽上場。他們兩個同意簽下類似Bogans但價格更低的非保障約。因此，這是公牛在七月一號之後可以進行的操作：在NBA普遍採取一種共同的看法，亦即當新的勞工合約出來後，將會強迫各隊釋出一些球員(類似NHL的情況)，而公牛將可以有效地拼湊出一個以Bogans、Lucas以及Pargo的非保障約為主的TE，因此，在規則沒有太大變動的情況下，這個TE將有1.25倍的價值。也就是說公牛可以因此換到身價約五百萬的球員，而與我們交易的球隊可以把這些非保障約的球權裁掉以省下薪資(公牛也可能以選秀權做為誘因搭配TE交易)，公牛將可以用這樣的代價(這三位非保障約等級的球員)取得五百萬薪資等級的夠格先發球員。否則，公牛將沒有空間簽下五百萬等級的球員，當然，沒有甚麼是一定的，只是這次簽人讓公牛在面臨到普遍認為可能發生的困境時，有潛力吸納到更高等級的球員。有關薪資的內容我真的很苦手，有請高手幫我看一下.... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.119.234.50