[外電] Boozer <=> Bargnani??

看板ChicagoBulls (芝加哥 公牛)作者 (思念華)時間12年前 (2013/02/08 07:22), 編輯推噓17(17038)
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http://0rz.tw/oKdqw The Chicago Bulls and Toronto Raptors have engaged in exploratory trade discussions on a deal that would swap the Bulls' Carlos Boozer for the Raptors' Andrea Bargnani, according to sources familiar with the discussions. Other players with smaller contracts would have to be added to the deal to make the salary-cap math work should talks indeed progress to a more serious level. But sources told ESPN.com on Thursday that both teams have given consideration to the move. From Chicago's perspective, sources said, Bargnani's arrival could help address their glaring lack of 3-point shooting and brighten the overall look of its payroll, given that the Italian forward makes $5 million less than Boozer this season. Despite his well-chronicled defensive deficiencies, Bargnani would figure to be an effective pick-and-roll partner for Derrick Rose, once Rose makes his expected return from knee surgery after the All-Star break. The biggest impediment to such a trade, sources said, is believed to be whether Toronto can realistically afford having both Rudy Gay and Boozer on its payroll beyond this season. The Raptors, fresh off acquiring Gay from Memphis last week, have been openly shopping Bargnani, who resumed the most disappointing season of his career Wednesday night after missing 26 games with an elbow injury. Although Toronto's desire to upgrade its front line is an open secret -- as confirmed by their long-running interest in trading for the Los Angeles Lakers' Pau Gasol before Gasol's foot injury this week -- it's believed the luxury-tax implications of trading for Boozer could ultimately dissuade the Raptors from such a deal, even if Chicago proved willing. Raptors president Bryan Colangelo told local reporters after the Gay trade the team was prepared to stray into luxury-tax territory for the "right transaction." It remains to be seen whether a deal for Boozer qualifies. It's long been assumed around the league the Bulls might consider releasing Boozer through the NBA's one-time amnesty provision at season's end. But Boozer has tuned out such talk to be one of Chicago's most productive players in 2013, rallying from a so-so start to average 19.5 points and 10.1 rebounds in January. The NBA's annual trade deadline is Feb. 21 and the Raptors are known to be actively searching for a new home for Bargnani, who was selected with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2006 draft but has gradually fallen out of favor with Raptors fans after Toronto's four consecutive seasons out of the playoffs. Their list of potential trade partners is likely to be limited, however, because Bargnani -- on top of his on-court struggles this season -- has two years left on his contract after this one, valued at slightly more than $22 million total. 公牛和暴龍再討論Boozer和Bargnani對換的可能性 有可能嗎?? 覺得教練不會喜歡Bargnani,完全不會防守啊 還是說Gibson拉上來,Bargnani從板凳上來當高砲塔砍分 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.251.73.58

02/08 08:47, , 1F
難道是想扶正Gibson....
02/08 08:47, 1F

02/08 09:27, , 2F
BOO(15M 15M 17M) <-> Bargnani(10M 11M 12M) 單換沒意義
02/08 09:27, 2F

02/08 09:29, , 3F
重點應該是看配菜是誰
02/08 09:29, 3F

02/08 09:42, , 4F
BOOZER 這麼強 換掉幹嘛 內線唯一攻擊火力ㄟ
02/08 09:42, 4F

02/08 09:53, , 5F
很明顯 扶正Gibson 畢竟給他大約了 加上省錢不想繳稅
02/08 09:53, 5F

02/08 09:58, , 6F
希望不要@.@
02/08 09:58, 6F

02/08 10:03, , 7F
換Bargnani也省不了錢
02/08 10:03, 7F

02/08 10:08, , 8F
目前超過豪華稅4百多萬 這樣換可省得多了 怎麼會省不了錢
02/08 10:08, 8F

02/08 10:24, , 9F
出去15M 進來的一定也是15M 所以重點在配菜
02/08 10:24, 9F

02/08 10:35, , 10F
XBoozer的防守也不太好。腳步移動很慢
02/08 10:35, 10F

02/08 10:40, , 11F
誰規定出去15M進來也要15M?暴龍加盧卡斯就過
02/08 10:40, 11F

02/08 10:41, , 12F
trade machine啦!
02/08 10:41, 12F

02/08 10:43, , 13F
那我說錯了 不是一定 是差不多
02/08 10:43, 13F

02/08 10:44, , 14F
加了盧卡斯 公牛還不是要付豪華稅
02/08 10:44, 14F

02/08 10:44, , 15F
推樓上 暴龍再加個龍套1~2百萬 就可以交易
02/08 10:44, 15F

02/08 10:49, , 16F
球隊若在cap room之下,球員薪資也不用差不多就
02/08 10:49, 16F

02/08 10:50, , 17F
公牛真要省豪華稅 又豈止只做這筆交易
02/08 10:50, 17F

02/08 10:50, , 18F
可過,如火箭目前還在cap 之下
02/08 10:50, 18F

02/08 10:50, , 19F
謝謝指導 我的交易知識一定比你們弱 我要說的是單換不可以
02/08 10:50, 19F

02/08 10:50, , 20F
吧 一定要配菜 那這個配菜如果是到期約 那就還好 如果不是
02/08 10:50, 20F

02/08 10:51, , 21F
那也省不了錢 當然Bargnani比BOO強就換吧
02/08 10:51, 21F

02/08 10:52, , 22F
那公牛暴龍有在cap 之下嗎
02/08 10:52, 22F

02/08 10:52, , 23F
公牛未來有沒有多的交易 我不知道 我現在只討論這個乳摸
02/08 10:52, 23F

02/08 10:53, , 24F
省豪華稅也是pro大先說的吧
02/08 10:53, 24F

02/08 10:56, , 25F
這個交易做完 大概可以省300萬左右 只差100萬左右 要避掉豪華
02/08 10:56, 25F

02/08 10:57, , 26F
對 pro說得對 未來再有省錢交易當然省了豪華稅
02/08 10:57, 26F

02/08 10:57, , 27F
稅 一些小交易就可以辦到 而且Bargnani合約2014可提前結束
02/08 10:57, 27F

02/08 10:58, , 28F
Bargnani的約在2014/15可以清 那真的不知道 比BOO少一年
02/08 10:58, 28F

02/08 10:59, , 29F
公牛真要交易 就是為了將來做布局 Boo賣相差 特赦是最笨的
02/08 10:59, 29F

02/08 10:59, , 30F
不要換拉...
02/08 10:59, 30F

02/08 11:01, , 31F
我以為BOO和Bargnani約的長度都是三年 如果後者比較短就OK
02/08 11:01, 31F

02/08 11:01, , 32F
論戰力當然Boo比較強 我也不要換 只是就rumor探討原因
02/08 11:01, 32F

02/08 11:07, , 33F
最新update Boozer+跳豆換Bargnani+盧卡斯
02/08 11:07, 33F

02/08 11:07, , 34F
公牛不要進攻了嗎
02/08 11:07, 34F

02/08 11:08, , 35F
這邊交易討論中,通過的話不用出豪華稅
02/08 11:08, 35F

02/08 11:09, , 36F
以老闆省錢個性蠻有可能的
02/08 11:09, 36F

02/08 11:28, , 37F
可以請問交易後可以省300萬這個是怎麼算的嗎??
02/08 11:28, 37F

02/08 11:28, , 38F
為什麼我看得一頭霧水~~~
02/08 11:28, 38F

02/08 11:29, , 39F
暴龍大概要出接近1200萬的球員才能換到Boo (薪資*1.25+10萬)
02/08 11:29, 39F

02/08 11:30, , 40F
還有暴龍狀元的合約是到14/15年,不曉得所謂到2014年可
02/08 11:30, 40F

02/08 11:30, , 41F
提前結束是指......?
02/08 11:30, 41F

02/08 11:31, , 42F
Bargnani 2014年有球員選項可以跳出 不過以他的表現不會跳出吧
02/08 11:31, 42F

02/08 11:32, , 43F
噁 那怎麼提前結束
02/08 11:32, 43F

02/08 11:33, , 44F
假設暴龍交易球員薪資為1200萬 1200萬*1.25+10萬=1510 可以換
02/08 11:33, 44F

02/08 11:34, , 45F
幫助Bargnani打出好成績 就好啦 XDDDDD
02/08 11:34, 45F

02/08 11:34, , 46F
真的喔? hoopshype的NBA salaries沒有註明義大利狀元
02/08 11:34, 46F

02/08 11:34, , 47F
有球員選擇權~~~嗯......所以是他們忘了標明? = ="
02/08 11:34, 47F

02/08 11:39, , 48F
反正公牛交易都是見光死 我也不希望成真 純討論就好XDDD
02/08 11:39, 48F

02/08 12:11, , 49F
是想趁boozer現在行情好就要賣掉嗎....
02/08 12:11, 49F

02/08 12:12, , 50F
公牛老闆省錢也不知道在省屁,有錢程度是前幾名的= =
02/08 12:12, 50F

02/08 12:19, , 51F
這兩天看魔球,突然覺得公牛操作模式跟裡面很像...
02/08 12:19, 51F

02/08 12:22, , 52F
公牛不就是豪華稅不繳第一優先
02/08 12:22, 52F

02/08 12:27, , 53F
如果交易完成可以省400萬,然後明年再隊伍選擇解約Rip省500萬
02/08 12:27, 53F

02/08 12:28, , 54F
這樣明年可以把薪資壓到7300-900=6400萬
02/08 12:28, 54F

02/08 12:29, , 55F
還可以用500萬中產在市場大展拳腳一番又不會觸發豪華稅
02/08 12:29, 55F
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