Re: Good news on Prior's elbow

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※ 引述《EdJay (會冷會冷果實能力者)》之銘言: : 照完了MRI顯示韌帶沒有受傷 ( ′-`)~呼 : 如果小普可以通過這幾天的測試 : 那麼他還是可以繼續他下次的先發 : 應該也不會把他擺在DL裡面 : 醫生還說他的韌帶還很強壯同時保持著很好的形狀 : 保證不可能要進行Tommy John或是韌帶重健的手術 : ( 大家好像都預期他會加入Tommy John俱樂部o(一︿一+)o ) : 小普加油啊! Mike Marshall--1974國聯賽揚獎, 人體運動學博士, 從事於投球技術之研究與 教學. 迄今保持單季出賽106場..等紀錄 Mark Prior被稱為擁有完美投球動作的投手, Prior受教於Tom House 但Dr.Marshall則持相反看法, 他曾發表標題為"Mark Prior's mechanics are fundamentally flawed"的文章. 其主要論點為: " Actually, Mr. Prior is the poster child for everything that is wrong with the 'traditional' pitching motion. He reverse rotates too far. He bends his pitching elbow way too far before he uses his pitching upper arm to pull his pitching elbow laterally back to his pitching arm side. He has a very large loop behind his head, which causes a reverse pitching forearm bounce. This loop combined with the nearly forty-five degree lateral angle at which he pulls his pitching forearm back to his pitching arm side generates a very power -ful centripetal force that slings his pitching forearm outward from his body. Let me take high-speed film of him and everybody will know better. The centripetal force that he generates causes his olecranon process to slam into its fossa. As a result, he is gradually and surely losing elbow extension range of motion. To prevent his pitching elbow from slamming his olecranon process into its fossa, he has to powerfully contract his Brachialis muscle. As a result, he is gradually and surely losing elbow flexion range of motion. Like the character in Fight Game, he is beating himself up." 以上節錄自http://www.drmikemarshall.com/Question-Answer2004.html http://www.drmikemarshall.com/ 即為其個人網站. 據說Dr.Marshall在去年季後賽便曾與"Saving the Pitcher"一書作者W. Carroll 提及M. Prior姿勢之缺點; 另一預言是, Tom House與Randy Johnson去年研究讓 放球點更靠近本壘板一些, 結果現在Johnson必須要動膝蓋手術. 是否為馬後砲, 只待繼續觀察. W. Carroll雖然寫書名為"Saving the Pitcher", 但是Dr.Marshall亦與此人不合 , 認為Carroll的研究沒有根據. 而Carroll在自己的blog給予如此評價: "Dr. Marshall is the living embodiment of passion, but it's both positive and negative." 有趣的是, Dr. Marshall對於傳統投球理論的抗辯, 總是用上許多專有名詞, 實際 去闡揚他自己的理論(對錯與否, 門外漢實難分辨); W. Carroll卻沒辦法使用同樣 的語言與之正面辯論, 流於口水之爭, 如: "Marshall has done all the research and methodology, yet he has no 'publishable' results. When people ask me about certain pitching coaches , I can point to their pitchers. House? Prior, Ryan, Johnson. Mazzone? Smoltz, Glavine, and whoever this year's reclamation project is. Dick Mills has Barry Zito (though Zito also worked with Tom House.) If Marshall's techniques are THAT GOOD - and I can't dispute that they are - then he should be able to either place a pitcher in high level competition or he's working with such inferior material that we have to seriously question why." 言下之意, 就是笑他沒有教出多高明的徒弟. 大致看過Dr.Marshall的理念之後, 我想大部分人會有他的理論是"一體適用"的 感覺, 似乎不管投手天賦如何, 就是練成同一套動作(他的書是詳盡描述每一動 作的), 再加上他教出的投球動作很怪, 會相信他那套理論的人也就更少了. 曾受過Dr.Marshall訓練的Jeff Sparks, 據說那種動作曾經使Sparks達到96mph 的球速. Jeff Sparks現在Nashua Pride打球, 2003還在Bangor Lumberjacks. http://www.montyrand.com/galleries/Lumberjacks/2003/Pages/27.html http://www.montyrand.com/galleries/Lumberjacks/2003/Pages/28.html 他有些有趣觀念: 1.生理年齡達到13歲之前, 禁止在以競技為目的之比賽中投球. 小投手一年只須 練投兩個月, 一周兩場比賽, 每場比賽只投一局. 以熟悉技巧為目的. 學習變 化球無妨, 因其目的並非競技之用. 2.相較於對年幼投手手臂的保護, 在職業層級的競技, 他反而建議只要經過他適 當訓練, MLB球團亦不妨使用四人投手輪值. 他說投球後冰敷是為了增加血流 量, 促進代謝廢物. 但是經過他的訓練, 投球臂血管增生(vascularization) 不須冰敷即可達到相同目的. 3.關於投手調度, 他堅持只讓投手在一場比賽中最多面對先發打線三輪, 除非是 特殊狀況. 這個觀念就比較死板.. Dr.Marshall可以說是完全否定目前世界上最好的投手, 是一位飽受爭議的人物. 但其論點或許並非全為虛妄空談, 提供各位參考. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 218.171.149.33

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多謝提供!!
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不過他多完美 還是希望操SP魔人多注意點
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