2011 Question Of The Day: Chicago Cubs

看板Cubs作者 (翹你的小鋼盔)時間14年前 (2011/02/24 12:21), 編輯推噓17(17021)
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www.sbnation.com/mlb/2011/2/23/2009327/spring-training-2011-chicago-cubs Everybody's writing off the Cubs in the National League Central. Some people like the Reds because they won last year, some people like the Brewers because they've added Zack Greinke and Shaun Marcum to their rotation, and some people like the Cardinals because they're the Cardinals. Nobody likes the Cubs, though. Last season they finished behind the Astros, and this season perhaps the best that might be expected of them is finishing ahead of the Astros. Still, if you're a Cubs fan -- and you know who you are -- you can't help harboring dreams of October, right? When Lou Piniella finally resigned last August, the Cubs' record stood at 51-74. Under Mike Quade, though, the Cubs went 24-13. That wasn't quite impressive as what the Orioles did after Buck Showalter arrived, but it's still a massive improvement and has to be considered at least a nominally positive marker entering 2011. The big question, though, is this: Will the Cubs making most of the money earn it? Here are four veterans, with their 2011 salaries and their "value" -- as measured by FanGraphs -- in 2010: Carlos Pena - $10M / $4M Aramis Ramirez - $14.6M / $4M Alfonso Soriano - $18M / $12M Carlos Zambrano - $18M / $9.5M I did some rounding, but the Cubs are paying roughly $60 million this season to those four players, who were actually "worth" only about $30 million.* * Of course, those aren't the Cubs' only apparently overpaid players. Kosuke Fukudome and Carlos Silva are wildly overpaid, too, but at this point nobody expects anything of them. Now, when you see those figures above, your first reaction might be, "Hey, who's the idiot who spent so much money on those guys?!" It's not mine, because my mom taught me to avoid calling people names on Web pages. Plus, maybe all that money is a good thing. How's that? Look, we all figured most of those contracts weren't going to work out brilliantly. Soriano's, in particular. But there's usually a reason why a player gets a long-term deal with huge numbers, and that reason is usually that they're pretty good players. Before last season, Aramis Ramirez was one of the most consistent players in the majors. His OPS+'s from 2004 through 2009: 138, 134, 126, 128, 126, 130. Granted, he was never really a great player because his defense at third base was just adequate, at best. But what's more likely in 2011? Hitting stats like he put up for six straight seasons, or like he did last season when suffering from a variety of injuries? If Ramirez is healthy -- and he says he is -- he figures to add four or five wins to the bottom line, all by himself. Carlos Pena seems primed for a rebound, too. After two straight solid seasons with Tampa Bay in which he combined for a .237/.367/.515 line, Pena slumped last year to .196/.325/.407. If it was my money, I probably wouldn't have bet $10 million on a .196 hitter. Especially one whose line-drive percentage dropped precipitously and ground-ball percentage rose alarmingly. Still, Pena does figure to hitter better than he did and what his predecessor (Derrek Lee) did last year. Oh, and when Derrek Lee didn't play first base last season, the position was usually filled by Xavier Nady or Micah Hoffpauir and they were execrable. Figure an additional win or two with Pena at first base. Alfonso Soriano ... Well, this might be where our analysis fails us, Cubbie fans. He was just so terrible in 2009 that his decent 2010 seems something like the upper limit of what we might reasonably expect. Granted, it wasn't that long ago that Soriano was actually an excellent player -- 2006 through 2008 -- but at this point he's just not to be relied upon for more than adequaciousness. And then there's Carlos Zambrano, temporarily yanked from the rotation in April, then suspended for five weeks during the summer after berating his teammates. After beginning anger-management training, Zambrano returned to the rotation in August and went 8-0 with a 1.41 in 11 starts the rest of the way. There's no way of knowing if Zambrano has really slain his demons -- he says he's cured -- but you have to figure the Cubs are better with a full season of Zambrano in the rotation than without. Let's give them another couple of wins. The Cubs won 75 games last season, but with the run differential of a 73-win team. It's not unreasonable to expect the better seasons from Ramirez, Pena and Zambrano to add eight wins. Hey, we've got the Cubs at .500! Sure, it's still fourth place. But now you can at least dream a little. Isn't that what the spring is all about? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 203.70.52.96

02/24 17:36, , 1F
和這篇作者的想法算是接近 我認為Aramis的反彈是最重要的
02/24 17:36, 1F

02/24 17:37, , 2F
關鍵 但我比較樂觀 考量到Starlin和Tyler的進步空間
02/24 17:37, 2F

02/24 17:38, , 3F
和Garza的加入 我認為85勝是可以預期的
02/24 17:38, 3F

02/24 19:28, , 4F
球隊今年一定會清倉拍賣 85勝太樂觀了
02/24 19:28, 4F

02/24 19:29, , 5F
Byrd Pena A-Rami這三隻首當其衝
02/24 19:29, 5F

02/24 19:30, , 6F
戰機不要太差 然後不要贏到要丟選秀權最好
02/24 19:30, 6F

02/24 19:31, , 7F
Garza的成績各大預測都很悲觀 從預測來看他比較像個五號
02/24 19:31, 7F

02/25 12:57, , 8F
但若開季打得很好 一直保有競爭力呢 雖然我也是贊成清倉啦
02/25 12:57, 8F

02/25 12:58, , 9F
Garza的預估個人感覺好像都太悲觀 畢竟stuff就擺在那啊
02/25 12:58, 9F

02/25 13:04, , 10F
保有競爭力就是要能進季後賽 國中目前看來我們就是爭老三
02/25 13:04, 10F

02/25 13:06, , 11F
要進季後賽 國中除了第一名之外別無他法
02/25 13:06, 11F

02/25 13:07, , 12F
機會不是沒有 與其期待大家觸底反彈還不如祈禱別隊斷手斷
02/25 13:07, 12F

02/25 13:07, , 13F
腳比較實在
02/25 13:07, 13F

02/25 13:08, , 14F
剛斷了一個不是XD
02/25 13:08, 14F

02/25 13:09, , 15F
打者上不了壘也不會得分 這樣的局面要多樂觀?
02/25 13:09, 15F

02/25 13:10, , 16F
Garza被看衰不是沒原因 全聯盟飛球比率第三的投手
02/25 13:10, 16F

02/25 13:11, , 17F
外加小熊破銅爛鐵般的防守 雖然我不認為他會向預測那般
02/25 13:11, 17F

02/25 13:12, , 18F
不堪
02/25 13:12, 18F

02/25 13:13, , 19F
今年能把防守拉起來就阿密陀佛了 戰積不敢奢望....
02/25 13:13, 19F

02/25 13:44, , 20F
我也認為防守的部分是沒辦法...而Wrigley也的確不會對
02/25 13:44, 20F

02/25 13:45, , 21F
Garza太友善 但姑且就先相信一下Jaramillo 期待打擊能回到
02/25 13:45, 21F

02/25 13:46, , 22F
07~08的水準吧(做夢中...) 畢竟還沒開打啊我是不會那麼悲
02/25 13:46, 22F

02/25 13:46, , 23F
觀啦~~
02/25 13:46, 23F

02/28 02:45, , 24F
我們今年的第一場比賽
02/28 02:45, 24F

02/28 02:47, , 25F
Cubs vs. Athletics: Sunday 2/27, 2:05pm (CT)
02/28 02:47, 25F


02/28 04:19, , 27F
得分啦~~
02/28 04:19, 27F

02/28 04:25, , 28F
4:0 XD
02/28 04:25, 28F

02/28 04:53, , 29F
被幹GS追平 Graza....
02/28 04:53, 29F

02/28 04:59, , 30F
Garza總算下莊了
02/28 04:59, 30F

02/28 05:09, , 31F
Garza還在投
02/28 05:09, 31F

02/28 09:56, , 32F
我今天2-3
02/28 09:56, 32F

02/28 12:28, , 33F
Garza今天及出大聯盟生涯第一支安打 (?)
02/28 12:28, 33F

02/28 12:32, , 34F
他把球要去做紀念 http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat
02/28 12:32, 34F

02/28 12:36, , 35F
另外兩位新同學 http://bit.ly/eVT33q
02/28 12:36, 35F

03/03 09:59, , 36F
Starlin Castro 持續著火燙手感 砲打Gallardo
03/03 09:59, 36F

03/03 10:00, , 37F
不過鋒頭都被拉米和14M搶過去了XD
03/03 10:00, 37F

03/03 10:13, , 38F
Castro 低調點沒關係 防守要加油啊
03/03 10:13, 38F
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