[外電] 田中欠達爾一個人情

看板Darvish作者anijen (Yu#11/Hammy#32)時間10年前 (2014/01/23 16:53)推噓2(2推 0噓 1→)

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http://ppt.cc/67v5 MLB.com : Tanaka owes Darvish a debt of gratitude A seven-year, $155 million commitment is not just big in Japan but big anywhere, and the Yankees' willingness to make that commitment to Masahiro Tanaka was the result of a perfect storm -- a feeble free-agent market, a desperate Bronx squad burned by 2013's frustrations and, yes, most of Alex Rodriguez's $25 million salary coming off the books for '14. But while Tanaka owes an "arigatou" to all of the above, his most heartfelt thank you ought to go to Yu Darvish. 7/155M的大約-不是日本型的大約，是世界型。為什麼洋基願意付這樣大的約? 原因:今年鳥市場/2013年的挫敗/大部分的-謝謝A-Rod 上面種種因素田中都要說聲"阿里嘎多" 但最重要的是像某人表達衷心感謝-Yu Darvish. Contrary to the comparisons that naturally cropped up as Tanaka made his foray into free agency, these are two fundamentally different pitchers. If we're going to liken Tanaka to Darvish merely because they're both from Japan, we might as well mentally connect Justin Verlander and Joe Saunders because they're both from Virginia. 不可避免的田中跟達比修會不斷被比較，如果你非得把田中跟達比修做比較就因為他們都從日本來的，那應該也會把Justin Verlander和 Joe Saunders做比較因為他們都從維吉尼亞州來的。 Place of birth really doesn't add much depth to the discussion. What allowed Darvish to make a nearly instantaneous leap from unproven pitcher to Cy Young contender was the vast array of his arsenal, which fed off a fastball that averaged 93.5 mph last season, according to FanGraphs. Darvish also benefitted from the mixed heritage and multicultural upbringing that helped him settle somewhat seamlessly into American life. 到底是什麼讓達比修從一個沒證明過自己的一個投手一躍變成一個賽揚競爭者? 根據 FanGraphs達比修均速為93.5mph，身為一個多元文化家庭長大的小孩多少幫助他在美國適應生活。 Tanaka, on the other hand, is cut more from the cloth that gave us Daisuke Matsuzaka, Kei Igawa and Hideki Irabu. Not that he'll be anywhere near as big of a bust as those guys (he's slightly younger, for one, and we'd like to believe the scouting associated with this signing is a little more sophisticated than it was then), but he more closely fits that "traditional" Japanese mold. 田中，這方面比較像松坂大輔、井川慶、伊良部等..。不是說他會跟他們一樣表現不好(根據球探報告)，只是他比較符合一般日本人的印象。 In terms of stuff, a good comparable for Tanaka might be Hisashi Iwakuma, who obviously just had a monster season for the Mariners. Iwakuma averaged 90.3 mph with his fastball last season, almost precisely the same mark that Tanaka averaged in Nippon Professional Baseball (90.7, per Patrick Newman of NPB Tracker) in 2012. As Iwakuma has (and countless others have) demonstrated, you can survive and thrive with savvy and command and deception over raw stuff. stuff方面比較像岩隈久志，去年岩隈的均速90.3mph，岩隈也同時證明，好的command可以生存的。 But the question of whether Tanaka will thrive at a level worthy of this kind of money over this length of time is a legitimate one. 問題是，田中是可成長到拿到這種長度跟$的約嗎? What is unquestionable is that Tanaka wouldn't have engendered that kind of commitment if Darvish hadn't set such an incredible precedent. It was the Darvish deal made by the Rangers (a record $51.7 million posting fee to Darvish's former team, plus a $56 million guarantee to Darvish himself) that helped prompt Pirates president Frank Coonelly to speak up at an Owners' Meetings general session last November about the unfairness of the posting system, as it pertains to MLB's small-market clubs. 毫無疑問的是如果達比修沒有去年那種鬼神表現，田中將不可能拿到這種大約。就因為達比修當年51.7高額入札金，所以去年11月海盜隊的總裁Frank Coonelly 在Owners' Meetings general session提出說對小市場球隊超不公平的說法。 The posting fees, after all, were paid directly to NPB teams and, therefore, were not subject to MLB's luxury tax, and the Darvish deal demonstrated just how outlandish those fees could get for top talent in today's marketplace. Coonelly initiated the change we saw this winter, to a system in which the posting fees were limited to $20 million so that a far more substantial sum of the investment goes to the player, and, hence, is taxable. 入札金是給日本球團的，還可不列入豪華稅，達比修的合約很清楚地展示一個頂級天分的球員在市場上的價值，結果海盜總裁的提議也因此改變今年冬天的入札金制度，改成上限為20M，結果大量的金額流入球員口袋(要列稅囉) That, of course, is how Tanaka was able to operate more like a stateside free agent and why he was able to negotiate a contract that guarantees him $99 million more than Darvish, who, again, very well might be the superior pitcher. 結果當然就是田中拿到一堆現金還可以跟多隊協商之後的合約竟比達比修多了99M(我必須再說一次-達比修，比較優秀) Free agency, like so much of life, is all about timing and context. More to the point, it was Darvish's success in Texas that prompted the Yankees to be so willing to venture down this road again. Because, remember, they were extremely cautious and careful in their dealings with Yu. Brian Cashman still had the scars from getting burned by Igawa, and he was reluctant to take on the riverboat gambler mentality one must possess in assigning Cy Young-like dollars to a pitcher whose tangible, transitional value is so vague. The Yanks did bid on Darvish, as did most teams in MLB, but they did so half-heartedly and without any expectation that they would be finalists for his services. 重點就是，達比修的成功讓洋基願意再對日籍投手恢復信心，因為，請記得他們當年可是對於達比修可是極度小心關切並提防。現金人對於井川慶的教訓仍耿耿於懷，根本不敢豪擲一個賽揚等級$$在一個轉換聯盟不確定能否成功的球員身上。洋基是有對達比修出喊價啦-跟其他隊也一樣，不是志在必得的，對於能否跟達比修進入協商階段也是不期不待心情下完成入札程序。 Flash forward two years, and there had to be regret on the part of Cashman and Co. for that tact. Their rotation had splintered and was in clear need of repair. Already, there are questions and concerns over what the future holds for CC Sabathia, who, like so many before him, will have to learn how to do more with less, now that his velocity has declined. And certainly, there are questions about how much a 38-year-old Hiroki Kuroda has left in the tank after his fade the last two months of 2013, or what Ivan Nova and Michael Pineda can reasonably be counted on to contribute. 2年時光匆匆，現金人跟他的團隊應該是後悔了，他們現在的輪值急需補救，沙巴西亞-球速下降;黑田老當益壯但2013最後2個月..;Ivan Nova and Michael Pineda 應該是仍可依靠的....。 Tanaka, therefore, became a must-have commodity for the Yankees, who, contrary to any since-abandoned stance about staying under the luxury tax, are perpetually in win-now mode. Ironically (or, perhaps, intentionally), they wound up, between the posting fee and contract, doling out the same amount of money and years here as they had offered to star second baseman Robinson Cano earlier this winter. 於是田中就變成洋基非得補到的一位，正處於win-mode模式的洋基，諷刺的，這合約跟端給冬天離去的2壘手Cano是一樣的。 This signing does not patch all the Yanks' holes. Despite a staggering $465 million in commitments this winter, they still don't have a settled infield at second and third base, and they still don't know precisely what the closer role will look like in the wake of the Mariano Rivera era. 但這簽約後仍未補足球隊所有的洞，內野的2/3壘實在不是很明確要找誰， MO退休後的終結者角色也是。 But because of the pure optimism that arrives with Tanaka, there is a lot more reason to believe in the Yankees' ability to contend today than there was yesterday. Maybe that optimism is misguided, for there is plenty of historical precedent in play here to suggest as much, but the scouts will tell you that Tanaka does have the fastball-splitter-slider mix and the competitive mental mindset to be a success at this level. We'll soon find out if they're right and if Tanaka will present as positive an impact to the Yanks' rotation as Darvish has presented to the Rangers' rotation. 但因為對於田中來臨一面倒的大樂觀，還是有理由相信今日洋基比昨日更好。也有機率這樂觀是被誤導的，因為不知道有多少選手來之前都被講的有多好一樣。不過根據球探說田中可以投速球-指叉-滑球混搭，還有投手丘上的堅強心志，馬上就可以驗證他對於洋基是否能跟達比修帶給遊騎兵一樣的衝擊。 Make no mistake, though: Tanaka does not have a great deal in common with Darvish -- not in stuff and, now, not in salary. 恩沒有錯的話，田中的約看起來不像達比修那樣好，本來是只有stuff差距，現在還多了薪水。 The only relation between the two is place of birth and the "arigatou" owed from one to the other. 現在這二位的關係僅剩 1.-同為日本出生 2.-其中一位欠另一位一句"阿里嘎多"。 -- http://ppt.cc/hSpQ SI.com : Better than Yu? Mixed reviews for Masahiro Tanaka, newest Yankee. 比達爾優? http://ppt.cc/dE7o ESPN DALLAS: Yu Darvish looks like a bigger bargain now 達爾約看起來又更像搶劫了 http://ppt.cc/mt4E Dallas news :Masahiro Tanaka to New York Yankees, will make $99M more than Yu Darvish 田中將到-洋基，比達比修多領99M -- MLB熱門球隊鄉民討論區關於田中約 (達爾絕對會討論中) 1.條子 http://ppt.cc/n1Ta Masahiro Tanaka to Yankees for 7 years, $155 million (鄉民A : 現在要馬上給達爾續延長合約) (鄉民B : 2年前到底是誰說GM JD為什麼還有工作 ?) (鄉民C : 超怕達爾進入自由市場條子應該簽不下來) 2.水手 http://ppt.cc/PuyS Yankees sign Masahiro Tanaka to 7 year, $155 million deal 3.紅襪 http://ppt.cc/8BbW Yankees sign Masahiro Tanaka to 7-year, $155 million contract 4.巨人 http://ppt.cc/jhsS Masahiro Tanaka doesn't sign with Dodgers 5.小蛇 http://ppt.cc/n0ad No Tanaka for Diamondbacks: Yankees win 6.小熊 http://ppt.cc/wa65 Masahiro Tanaka Signs With Yankees 7.大都會 http://ppt.cc/oTgv International Free Agent Profile 2014: Masahiro Tanaka 8.藍鳥 http://ppt.cc/szFh New York Yankees sign Masahiro Tanaka to a seven-year, $155 million contract 9.洋基 http://www.pinstripealley.com/ 隨便瞄一下有在追田中名單內大部分球迷是慶幸自家球隊沒跟，小熊球迷怎麼想就不知道了.. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 163.32.222.155 ※ 編輯: anijen 來自: 163.32.222.155 (01/23 17:15) ※ 編輯: anijen 來自: 163.32.222.155 (01/23 17:23)