[心得] 弱弱的心得翻譯
看板Federer作者iliketea (He got 16, going on 17)時間14年前 (2011/06/05 05:15)推噓15(15推 0噓 2→)留言17則, 14人參與討論串1/1
原PO很弱比較不會寫什麼心得但看別人寫的不錯的就想說來翻一下
算是幫這場比賽做個小小的結尾這樣 (咦咦) 因為過不到幾小時更大的挑戰又要來了
贏或輸 Rog is always our man.
一樣理性一篇感性一篇 XDD 有點長不想看也可以直接end看球迷的網站截圖
理性篇
I honestly think I was less drained, emotionally, after his matches against
Roddick at Wimby 2009 and his two five set matches against DP that same year.
I was not tapped this much after his Wimby 2008 final because there was a sense
of lost hope after the first two sets.
我真的覺得 09 年他跟 Roddick 溫網一場五盤、 Del Potro的兩場五盤大戰後我有比較
冷靜、入定。我不把這場比賽跟溫網莫再提那場連結起來,因為那場在頭兩盤後就有點絕
望的感覺出來了。
Before watching the match I did know he would win. I just felt he had done
everything right up until this match. I wasn't worried about the outcome but I
was worried more about having to watch it. All that Paul and Roger had worked
so hard doing having to come to fruition in near-darkness against a man who
hadn't lost all year would be a tall tall ask and even if I knew he would do it,
I worried about it. I mentioned it to friends as well (that I thought he would
win). Some were happy that I said it. Some said what I was saying was ludicrous.
Right now I realise how much it didn't matter what I predicted. I realise now
I kept saying it because I actually wanted it for him that badly, much more
badly than I thought just before it, because never before, in this latest stage
of his career had I seen him so well-prepared for a showdown.
比賽前我就知道他會贏。我就感覺這場比賽前他做的每件事都是對的。我不擔心結果,倒
比較擔心必須看這場比賽。所有 Paul 與 Rog 做的努力要在快天黑、面對一個大半年沒輸
球的人驗收成果,這實在是個很高的要求。雖然知道他辦得到,但我還是很擔心。我跟朋
友也提過說他會贏;有些人很高興;有些則嗤之以鼻。現在我知道我的預測根本不重要,
我非常想要他拿下比賽,比我之前想的還強烈;因為於此之前,在他職業生涯晚期,我從
沒看過他如此有 BEAR 來。
I'm going to go ahead and say that the first two sets were a result of all
the work he's done till now with Paul and the way in which he worked in all the
variety into his game during the previous matches and clay tourneys is what
paid off.
接下來我要說的是第一二盤是他跟 Paul 的合作與自身努力收到了成果;包刮之前比賽跟
法網所打出的多樣性在內。
I also believe that as a baseline match, this might be one of the best I've
ever seen, and definitely has the best set of clay court tennis I've ever seen
(Set 1). I wouldn't mind being challenged on this.
我也相信就一場底線較量的比賽而言,這是我看過最棒的一場;其中包含我看過最棒的一
盤紅土比賽,就算你要跟我戰這個我也無所謂。
I'll go through what I thought about each of them. Sorry if I mess up
details.I am FRIED.
我想到什麼就講什麼,如果記錯了就先抱歉嚕。我整個累爆了。
SET 1
Everything I hoped he would do, he did.
From the last match thread and what I thought he should do:
第一盤 ─ 所有我想要他做的事情他都做了,上個討論串有說:
As we look forward to the marquee semi (Nadal vs Murray is likely to be, in
my opinion, the most boring match of the year) between him and Novak, I am
intrigued by the match-up. Novak has made a streak of moving side-to-side
endlessly and running down anything a human being of any proportion can throw
at him, but he refuses to come to net on relatively shorter balls. Roger will
have to continue this little variety romp of his and draw Novak in with the
slice and run around the FH as much as possible to control the pace of the
rallies. This match will come down to who dictates play. Both guys are
attacking players. If for example, Roger was to play Simon, it would be about
choosing the right plays. Here it's more about being in control of a point's
dynamic, which of recent Novak has been doing better in their matches since
Roger has seemed content to go toe-to-toe with him from the back. This time,
Roger needs to draw him in, throw him back, misdirect rather than look for the
open court which Novak expects. He needs to make Novak stop-and-start rather
than run-and-run. It has to be a battle of athleticism, not of ball-striking,
but of movement.
He who moves the way he was brought up to move, shall win. I look forward to
it.
大概翻一下:小德是個很會救球的選手,但當球短他不會上網。Rog 必須保有這小變化,
用切球吸引小德上網,然後用正拍盡量控制來回的步調。這場比賽控制來回的人就會贏,
兩人都是攻擊型選手,假如說 Rog 要打的是西蒙,佈局就很重要。這場比較是控制來回
,這點在近幾次小德與 Rog 的交手做得非常好,因為 Rog 四夫也甘於在底線跟他對拉。
這次 Rog 必須吸引他上前,再把他推回去XD,打重複路線而非打向小德預期的大空檔。
他必須讓小德瞬間急停而不是左右跑動。這是場智慧與變化而非擊球的較量。有 BEAR 來
的人會贏,我很期待這場比賽。
This is honestly how he won the first set. Pulled the trigger early but
smartly, hit behind Novak an awful lot. Mixed it all up and most importantly,
EXECUTED perfectly. It was always going to be a question of whether he could
actually bring it all together and he did. The rallies were long, and I think
he was actually quite fine with it as long as he didn't get lulled into the BH
crosscourt-BH crosscourt exchanges that Novak uses as a staple when beating him
. For all the talk of his excellence, Novak is a remarkably one-dimensional
attacking player. Pound the BH until you hit into an open-ish court. Roger was
having none of it. He went for his forehand winners early in the rallies but
not at idiotic moments. He was aggressive but not impatient. The slice came in
after a couple off games. Soon after this, a great short chip return. He did
his best to get Novak moving forward and many times did not go for the outright
pass but a low dipping forehand to force the volley from way low.
這就是他如何贏的第一盤的。先進攻,但不莽撞;讓小德常措手不及。把所有武器都融合
的很好,更重要的是執行得很完美。說到底就是能否把十八般武藝都拿出來,而他做到了
。來回很長,他也很能應付,只要不陷入小德的斜線反拍互拉就好,這是小德打敗 Rog 的
標準戰術。小德是個非常單一的進攻型選手,攻反拍攻到你打出界,但 Rog 可沒屈服。他
搶第一時間正手進攻,但不是在智障的時刻。他很敢打但還是保有耐性。幾局後切球出現
了;再之後,有檔切接發小球。他竭盡所能把小德調到網前,很多次求的不是穿越,而是
逼對方正拍截擊。(編按:這裡不太確定)
And I think we can all thank whichever God we respectively pray to that his
serve was on.
而且我認為我們可感謝各路神明他的一發火燙!
It is testament to Novak's confidence that he held firm despite Roger
red-lining his game like this. For me, since I felt Roger was the favourite,
Novak was up against it. The crowd hardly cared for him, and the greatest
player ever suddenly remembered who he was, and worse yet, had a plan! A really
attacking player on his game beats even a slightly less attacking but superbly
defensive player on his game (write that down ), every day of every year, and
all this information coupled with the pressure of the streak and being number
one finally was telling. Roger had a little too much going on, so much so that
Novak was gasping for air for the first time in a long time. Masur said
sometime during the match that Roger hadn't given Novak the same ball more than
once in a rally. That, I assure you, is far more tiring for someone who likes
to run side-to-side than heavy groundstrokes. This is why Roger was favorite to
win as soon as he started. His volleys as usual were not stellar, but from all
the clumsy volleying earlier in the tournament, the clumsy volleys in this
match were made. It doesn't have to be pretty. It just has to be right. That's
the point of doing it earlier in the tournament. Just do it already.
儘管 Rog 迅速保發,小德能否牢固發球局是對他信心的考驗。就我而言,因為我覺得 Rog
有贏面,小德自然就落下風。觀眾根本不在乎他,而史上最佳突然又想起自己是誰,更糟
的是他居然還有 BEAR 來!(編按:對不起一梗三用XD)真正進攻型的選手打敗一點點進
攻但防守超優的選手(記下來)。所有連勝、當球王等總總壓力最後終於現形了。Rog 狀
態頗佳,這讓小德長久以來首次喘不過氣。Masur(編按:澳洲老球評)說 Rog 同一來
回裡幾乎不給小德兩次一樣的球。我跟你保證這絕對比愛左右救球的人還累。這就是為
啥比賽一開始時 Rog 贏面就比較大了。他截擊跟往常一樣很醜,但自法網開始的一些笨截
擊在這場比賽裡也成功了。截擊也不需要漂亮呀,只要打得對就好。這就是為啥前幾輪要
練截擊的原因,因為你都做過了嘛。
SET 2
Much the same as the first for Roger, but Novak let the intensity dip.
第二盤 ─ 跟第一盤一樣,但小德有讓比賽張力更強。
Woodforde mentioned that both his mom and dad left the box after the first set, and
that knowing Novak personally, he knows he would have looked to his box and
not liked that. Another reason never to look to your box. Another reason to
have an idol like Federer. I did feel awful for Novak though.
Roger continued to do the same. Novak's level was just a little lower.
Woodforde 有說小德的父母第一盤後就離開包廂了,就 Woodforde 對小德的了解,他知道
小德會看包廂且不喜歡父母不在那。又一個原因絕不看包廂,又一個原因你的偶像叫
Roger Federer。但我是為他感到挺難過的啦。
Rog 還是跟上盤一樣,小德的水平就還是低了一點。
SET 3
Mental let-down and Novak also started letting go and playing casually to a
point where it became good quality nothing-to-lose tennis. Roger was still
playing at a very high level and still making some great shots, but he was no
longer red-lining it. I don't think any of it was related to his usual drops in
focus. This was more a matter of how difficult it was to have to play at that
level for so long. It was bound to happen.
第三盤 ─ 恍神。而小德也開始放手打那些沒啥好輸的的網球。Rog 水準還是維持非常之
高,好球也不斷出現但狀況已沒那麼燙了。我想這跟他以往的專著度下降都無關,跟要長
時間維持高水準非常之難有關,是不可避免的。
A few things happened that would change things in the fourth set and would
make life harder for Roger. One was that terrible pattern of BH CC rallies.
Roger, sensing this, suddenly started throwing in a lot more slices, many were
bluffs rather than the ones that really grip the court and make a double hander
bend low. Novak identified this and probably thought two things, either of
which would have helped him. The first was that Roger was getting tired
(possible).The second was that Roger going to the well too often (the BH slice)
was a sign of a lack of options. Roger was not throwing in too many drop shots
since Novak is hard to get that way since unlike Rafa or DP, he stands quite
close to the baseline. Novak took a lot of confidence from these subtle changes
in Roger's game.
幾件事會讓第四盤風雲變色,也會讓 Rog 不好過;其一是糟糕的反拍斜線對拉。發現這個
的 Rog 突然開始大量切球;有些是很飄的,不是那種很沉的球讓雙手持拍者去蹲低。察覺
到這的小德心裡可能想著兩件事,做對一個都有幫助;第一是 Rog 累了(有可能),第二
是好像沒招了(反拍切球),小球也常失敗,因為小德不像 Nadal 或 Del Potro 一樣離
底線很遠,他離底線滿近的。他從這些 Rog 的這些細微變化裡得到了信心。
SET 4
Let's face it. This was really a fifth set, which is why it will be
considered one of the greatest matches in RG history, and easily the best of
the year.
第四盤 ─ 承認唄!這真的是第五盤,也是為啥這場比賽會被視為法網史上最偉大的一場
比賽,也是今年無庸質疑最精采的一場比賽。
Roger still ended the third set respectably as opposed to how he had lost 6-2
sets to Novak before at the USO. I think the fact that he stayed with Novak
mentally, helped. He knew the danger. And he was not going to let this lead go.
He did a good job of trying physically though. By now Novak was getting more
BH CC rallies, and Roger was throwing in the slice too many times. Novak was
starting to read Roger's slower shots early and was hitting through them
better.He had gotten used to them.
跟去年美網第四盤 Rog 以2-6輸掉來比,這場第三盤是沒輸的太難看。我想跟小德心理上
互尬有幫助。他知道危機,也不願讓這領先溜走。他在堅持體能這方面做得很好,而小德
此時此刻反拍斜線越打越多,Rog 也切球切太多了。小德抓到 Rog 的短球就馬上轟,也
越來越上手了。
Tiredness was affecting some of Roger's choices but the difference was that
it wasn't to the degree that he would go away. His focus in this match was at
its best in years. His second serve, despite being broken once, was
Sampras-like. One clocked in at 181 km/hr. Ridiculous. He was not backing down
today. Pure heart.
疲勞影響了一些 Rog 擊球選擇,但差別在於還不到放掉比賽的程度。這場比賽的專注度
是今年最好的一場,雖有被破過一次,他的二發跟山大王一樣。其中一球有 181 km/hr。
扯。他今天是不放手的。Pure Heart。
There was a point when I was sure he was tired. It was the break-back game.
That was real ballsy tennis. It was surprising because Roger usually treats an
important return game as one in which he tries the aggressive return and then
waits for a mistake. Here he went for the return and continued to swing freely.
Part of me thinks he was feeling it in his legs and decided to swing
freely. Another part feels he just planned to have a go. Both are courageous,
and he will look back on that game as one of the bravest he's ever played.
有一個關鍵點是我認為他真的累了,就是回破那局,那真的是很大膽的一局。這很令人驚
訝的點在於 Rog 通常在關鍵局回球都很積極然後等待失誤。這邊他就是揮全拍把球回回
去,有部分我是覺得他腿有點累所以決定揮全拍;另一部分是他就是要衝一發。兩個都很
勇敢,此後他看待這局將會是他打過心臟最大顆的一局。
The 4th set TB needed just two points for me to know Roger was going to win
it. The first two. One real drop shot, not a cop-put; with purpose, with
intent.And one sublime FH winner. Even if it got ugly from there I knew who was
in it to win it, and who had more pressure on his shoulders out there. For us,
it would seem like Roger was under pressure because he could finish it right
there, but it seemed to me Roger was thinking more along the lines of, "I
should have beaten this guy a set ago, so I'm going to go for it." This is the
complete opposite of the attitude he had in the TB against DP at the USO. Here
he had come with a plan and Novak hadn't really foiled it at all, just slowed
him down. He was so confident in how he was going about things, that the aces
came, and with it the glory.
第四盤搶七只要兩分我就知道 Rog 會贏,前兩分。一個真小球,不是逃避對抽(編按:原
作應該想說的是 cop-out),有目的,有意圖。還有一個神之正拍。雖然比賽最後打得不
可開交但我知道誰會贏、誰感受到的壓力比較大。對我們來說會覺得 Rog 的壓力比較大因
為他大可早點把比賽結束,但就我看來 Rog 心裡的 OS 是:「一盤以前我就該打敗他了,
所以這邊我要毫無保留。」這態度跟 Del Potro 美網打搶七時是完全相反的。這邊他有計
畫,且小德也沒完全阻止,這讓 Rog 更放鬆了。他對自己下一分要幹麻很有信心。賽末發
球 ACE,榮耀也隨之而來。
I'm too exhausted to even think about the final, but I will say that the
first Federer moment of the year has occurred, irrespective of the tournament's
eventual winner. I do not want him to think this way, of course, and I always
expect the best from him, but tactically I haven't thought it through as an
observer. For now I'll dream of his thread-the-needle BH in the first set..
我累到根本無力去想決賽,但我會說今年第一個費神時刻已經產生,不管冠軍是誰。當然
我不想他這樣想,我都是希望他能拿出最好狀態。但技術上做唯一個球迷我還沒想出什麼
戰術。現在我只想夢到他那第一盤如針一般犀利的反拍。
Roger won today playing the best clay-court tennis I have seen from anyone in
the modern game. Guga was great, but Roger gives us joy like no other. I have
never reflected so much on any of his matches as I have on this one in the
short period after a match. So much went into it. He has come back before, yes,
but today involved than his usual will to win. Today was pure preparedness.
Rog 今天以一場現今我看過最棒的紅土網球贏得比賽。Guga 很棒,但 Rog 帶給我們的喜
悅是舉世無雙的。我從沒在一場比賽後能像現在一樣,短時間內打出這麼多心得。好多好
多值得再探究。他以前也歸來過,沒錯,但今天他想贏的決心是平常不能比的。今天他真
的有什麼而來?有 BEAR 而來 XD。
好了翻完理性篇我也累了 orz 感性篇我放棄。
直接跳到球迷的截圖。
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(一貫瑞士風,很不 care Rog XD)
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