ISU 可能考慮重新研究評分 (朝鮮日報)

看板FigureSkate (花式滑冰)作者 (Waiting Vancouver 2010)時間15年前 (2010/03/04 16:42), 編輯推噓18(18040)
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http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/03/02/2010030200879.html Figure Skating Body to Reexamine Scoring System Kim Yu-na's record-shattering score of 228.56 points in the Vancouver Winter Olympics has prompted calls for a change in the way figure skating is judged. Many believe that Kim was able to rise to the top of the podium with the "unimaginable" score because the current scoring system, which the International Skating Union came up with in 2004 after the vote-trading scandal of the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics, is also problematic. Now there are calls for a new judging procedure to promote the development of technical aspects. 因為有人認為是"2002醜聞後的新評分系統"讓kim得到不可思議的高分,所以有些 要求調整技術分值的聲浪出現。 In its general assembly scheduled for June, the ISU might adopt a new system to provide cushion for skaters who courageously go for technically difficult jumps. Under the current rules, when a triple Axel jump falls short of full rotation it is downgraded to a double Axel, and the base value for an attempted but under-rotated triple Axel falls from 8.20 to 3.50 points. Such high penalties can deter skaters from attempting challenging jumps. The new system is aimed at making penalties less severe. 一般來說ISU會在6月份調整新的計分體系來鼓勵選手挑戰較難的技術動作。 現行規則對於不足圈的3A懲罰很大,導致不少選手對此挑戰感到卻步,因此, 新系統傾向減少類似的情形的分數懲罰。 In Vancouver, many skaters avoided attempting some of the most difficult jumps. Men's singles champion Evan Lysacek of the U.S. decided to take quadruple jumps out of his program and instead concentrate on nailing triple jumps in order to accumulate grade of execution (GOE) points. Men's silver medalist and the 2006 Olympic champion Yvgeny Plushenko of Russia was unhappy about how the most difficult jumps were not given due credit. 本次冬奧有不少選手避免常嘗試困難的跳躍,金牌得主,美國的萊薩切克用精巧的3周跳 取代四周,俄國的普魯申科對於"最難的跳躍沒有得到應有分值"感到不快。 But ladies' silver medalist Mao Asada of Japan has already declared her bid to win the gold in the 2014 Olympics in Sochi with a plan to include a quadruple in her arsenal. 但是女單銀牌淺田真央已經宣布計畫要以四周跳作為贏得2014索契冬奧金牌的武器。 Kim Yu-na's coach Brian Orser smiles before Kim's performances in the women's figure skating competition at the Vancouver Winter Olympics, wearing a patterned brown or plain blue tie to match her outfit. Amid this discussion, expectations are rising that Kim should include more demanding technical elements in her performances. Her coach Brian Orser said on Monday, "I'd love her to learn the triple Axel, that would be pretty sweet." The move is the most important next step and Kim could learn it pretty easily, he added. 在這樣的討論氛圍下,金妍兒被期待在她的節目中安排更高難度的技術組成,她的教練 Oser表示,希望她能學習3A,這對她的下一步來說是最重要的,而且她能輕易地學會。 Orser hopes his student will remain in competition until the Sochi Olympics, although her immediate goal is to defend her title in the World Championship in Turin, Italy from March 27 to 29. He believes Kim should have no problem staying in good physical condition until 2014, when she'll be just 24 years old. Now she needs to defend her world title, and then she will take a break before preparing for next season, Orser said. "I'm not sure what's in for Yu-na after that. Everything is up to her." -------------------------------------- 大致瞎翻了一下 XD 總之...女單的比賽已經進化到4周跳和3A的對決了 囧囧囧 不管是Mao還是 Kim,還是先好好保重身體健康吧,千萬不要成為Lipinski第二.... -- "If you get up in the morning and nothing bothers you, you're dead." - Lyosha on sports life -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.166.192.180 ※ 編輯: Leshalover 來自: 118.166.192.180 (03/04 16:44)

03/04 16:54, , 1F
Lipinski怎麼了嗎??
03/04 16:54, 1F

03/04 17:00, , 2F
1998冬奧結束後就換了人工髖關節,那時她才16歲
03/04 17:00, 2F

03/04 17:24, , 3F
我不覺得YUNA可以輕鬆學成3A。否則她一定會把3A用在比賽上
03/04 17:24, 3F

03/04 17:24, , 4F
3A應該有什麼很難的理由,使得現在只有Mao能辦到吧。
03/04 17:24, 4F

03/04 18:10, , 5F
3A真的輕鬆的話~就不會連很多男單也做不出來了
03/04 18:10, 5F

03/04 20:22, , 6F
我看完這個報導只有一肚子火耶......真的!!
03/04 20:22, 6F

03/04 20:36, , 7F
為什麼生氣O.O??
03/04 20:36, 7F

03/04 20:42, , 8F
因為ISU是想要選手跳愈難愈好~因為這樣就會愈高分
03/04 20:42, 8F

03/04 20:43, , 9F
就算會摔還是跳~因為扣分減少了(如果真的像文中所改)
03/04 20:43, 9F

03/04 20:44, , 10F
這樣只會讓jumper節目和受傷的選手愈來愈多吧
03/04 20:44, 10F

03/04 21:00, , 11F
那不就變成怎樣改都會被罵嗎@@?
03/04 21:00, 11F

03/04 21:22, , 12F
確切來說,日本冰協確實已經提出這個建議了...
03/04 21:22, 12F

03/04 21:22, , 13F
能否通過還是另一回事...
03/04 21:22, 13F

03/04 21:23, , 14F
我個人可不希望看到不足圈的高難度跳躍到處出現,甚
03/04 21:23, 14F

03/04 21:23, , 15F
至獲得加分...卻是以選手的健康或是技術全面性做為代
03/04 21:23, 15F

03/04 21:23, , 16F
價=_=...然後學會跳躍和比賽中成功做出來是兩回事
03/04 21:23, 16F

03/04 21:24, , 17F
YUNA在練習中的3loop非常漂亮,比賽中卻很少或根本
03/04 21:24, 17F

03/04 21:24, , 18F
不安排...我也看過她在練習中成功跳出3axel的影片
03/04 21:24, 18F

03/04 21:25, , 19F
不過她就是因為練這個動作及四周跳兩度重傷到差點不
03/04 21:25, 19F

03/04 21:25, , 20F
能參加比賽...Mao的身體素質無疑更加強健優異
03/04 21:25, 20F

03/04 21:25, , 21F
可是在真的上四周之前我更希望她把3lutz、3salchow
03/04 21:25, 21F

03/04 21:26, , 22F
及3-3找回來...不然難道在沒有全面型跳躍種類下就直
03/04 21:26, 22F

03/04 21:26, , 23F
奔4loop而去嗎?
03/04 21:26, 23F

03/04 21:39, , 24F
mao不是有提前轉身的壞習慣....直接上4loop...?
03/04 21:39, 24F

03/04 21:43, , 25F
我昏頭了.....當我沒講過=0=
03/04 21:43, 25F

03/04 21:50, , 26F
因為Mao比賽中沒有3salchow...toe jump技術又不穩定
03/04 21:50, 26F

03/04 21:51, , 27F
而不管單跳連跳都超愛用loop
03/04 21:51, 27F

03/04 21:51, , 28F
所以我才推測說她要上四就是4loop...
03/04 21:51, 28F

03/04 21:51, , 29F
以前不是也有傳聞說Mao在練習4loop嗎?
03/04 21:51, 29F

03/05 00:08, , 30F
以前Timothy Goebel跳了三個quad還是沒有金牌 也沒聽人
03/05 00:08, 30F

03/05 00:08, , 31F
家嚷嚷打分不公...
03/05 00:08, 31F

03/05 00:35, , 32F
Goebel也把自己給操壞了 可憐的小孩
03/05 00:35, 32F

03/05 00:44, , 33F
好久沒聽到Timothy Goebel~他現在在做甚麼呀?
03/05 00:44, 33F

03/05 01:03, , 34F
根據WIKI資料 他拿到證照在紐約滑冰學校當技術專家
03/05 01:03, 34F

03/05 07:40, , 35F
C大靠傳言推測的成分也未免太多= =MAO已澄清不會跳四周
03/05 07:40, 35F

03/05 07:45, , 36F
很多選手在練習中都能做到比賽不常做的跳躍,包括淺田
03/05 07:45, 36F

03/05 08:00, , 37F
我覺得問題不在技術分怎麼扣吶…而是在裁判還是可以操控
03/05 08:00, 37F

03/05 08:00, , 38F
PCS的分數啊,XD~
03/05 08:00, 38F

03/05 08:04, , 39F
然後跳躍,我想大家還是先把所有的3圈練好再說吧,我可不
03/05 08:04, 39F

03/05 08:06, , 40F
想看到二二六六的節目…
03/05 08:06, 40F

03/05 18:30, , 41F
Mao也沒有說不跳四周啊@@,她現在處於不排斥的狀態。
03/05 18:30, 41F

03/05 18:31, , 42F
為了認識四圈跳,她上了前奧運金牌的新體操講習呢。
03/05 18:31, 42F

03/05 18:34, , 43F
Mao是很擅長掉Loop沒錯,曾經06年想把4L放進節目,
03/05 18:34, 43F

03/05 18:34, , 44F
不過最後是未果。實際在練習中有跳出來的,
03/05 18:34, 44F

03/05 18:34, , 45F
竟然是她超級弱的4Salcow...@@
03/05 18:34, 45F

03/05 18:35, , 46F
現在她希望2013-2014前能學會四圈跳,趕上奧運;
03/05 18:35, 46F

03/05 18:36, , 47F
不過2010年的現在,偶爾會進行4Loop的練習,成功率卻很低
03/05 18:36, 47F

03/05 18:37, , 48F
希望Mao能夠不要太在意外界的壓力,照自己的腳步慢慢來呀
03/05 18:37, 48F

03/05 18:54, , 49F
該不會跳不出3salcow只能做4salcow吧 XD 這也太酷....
03/05 18:54, 49F

03/05 18:59, , 50F
那就太炫了XD。Salcow是安藤的最拿手項目啊...
03/05 18:59, 50F

03/05 19:00, , 51F
最拿手的4S在比賽上一直跳不出來,卻被最弱的Mao跳出來,
03/05 19:00, 51F

03/05 19:00, , 52F
真有這麼一天的話就太囧了....
03/05 19:00, 52F

03/05 20:11, , 53F
據我所看到的新聞,Mao並沒說不會跳四周,只是說四周
03/05 20:11, 53F

03/05 20:12, , 54F
,只是說四周並非她現在的急迫目標而已;而從前她確
03/05 20:12, 54F

03/05 20:12, , 55F
實練過也想過要把4loop放進節目裡,所以我才這麼推
03/05 20:12, 55F

03/05 20:13, , 56F
測的;而且日本冰協也確實把放寬四周及3A的評判建議
03/05 20:13, 56F

03/05 20:14, , 57F
議提出來了(why?)難道連討論這種可能性也不行嗎?=_=
03/05 20:14, 57F

03/06 03:57, , 58F
奧運後總是有很多傳聞滿天飛,還是得等世錦賽後再說吧
03/06 03:57, 58F
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