Fw: [外絮] Andrew Bogut光榮的髒活(內含勇士數據分析

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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1IYE1ZXx ] 作者: idiotsmart (不吃蕃茄) 看板: NBA 標題: [外絮] Andrew Bogut光榮的髒活 時間: Sun Nov 17 23:27:26 2013 The Glorious Bastardry of Andrew Bogut Andrew Bogut光榮的髒活 (底下部落格有圖文影音好讀版) There are a lot of serious things to say about Golden State, and we'll give those things due space and time at some point. The Warriors are the only team in the top five in both points scored and allowed per possession, a classic signifier of true title contention, as Tom Haberstroh pointed out yesterday. They've been a little foul prone this season, but they were last season, too, and they appear to be even more comfortable running the defensive system Mike Malone installed before leaving to coach the Kings. 有很多關於金州勇士隊的重要議題可以探討,而我們在某個時間點將會提到。Tom Haberstroh在昨天提到勇士隊是唯一一支球隊在每回合的得失分數據上都排在前五 的球隊,這是典型的冠軍競爭球隊表徵。他們這季有點容易陷入犯規麻煩,不過上 個球季也差不多。同時,他們看起來更習慣由Mike Malone這位現任國王總教練所 建立起的防守體系。 Andre Iguodala has fit on both ends of the floor like Ace Ventura's speeding car in a tight parking spot. In this era of the ball-dominant point guard and spread pick-and-roll offenses, the Warriors have constructed a roster that allows their point guard, Stephen Curry, to dribble as much or as little as required on a given night. They can hide him on defense more easily with Iguodala around; Klay Thompson is generally guarding opposing point guards, and Iggy is taking the tough wings. They take a ton of 3s, as they should; only Houston takes more as a percentage of overall shot attempts. Andre Iguodala在攻防兩端都契合的像Ace Ventura將快車停進壅擠的停車場般( 譯按:由金凱瑞飾演的王牌威龍其中的一幕)。在這個以大量持球的控衛和拉開空 間的檔拆戰術為主的時代,勇士隊的陣容讓他們的控衛Stephen Curry依不同的比 賽需求,其持球時間可長可短。勇士隊有Iguodala便可以輕易的隱藏Curry的防守 缺點。Klay Thompson通常對位對方的控衛,而Iggy則負責防守難以對付的側翼球 員。勇士隊投一堆三分球,而他們該當如此。以出手比例來算,只有火箭隊比他們 投更高比例的三分球。 They've only scratched the surface of their lineup versatility, since a foot injury has limited Harrison Barnes to 103 minutes so far. The Dubs have played just seven minutes total with Barnes as a small-ball power forward in the lineups that blitzed Denver and troubled San Antonio in the previous postseason, per NBA.com. Draymond Green can play either forward position, and the Dubs have used Green and Barnes as a gigantic wing combination in bigger lineups. They've played heavy minutes without a point guard, an intriguing big-ball look that could persist even when Toney Douglas comes back from injury. 對於勇士陣容的靈活性,他們才摸到邊而已,因為Harrison Barnes的腳傷讓他目 前只上場103分鐘。根據NBA.com的數據,勇士隊目前只讓Barnes扛7分鐘大前鋒, 而這招在去年季後賽讓金塊隊措手不及並對馬刺隊造成些麻煩。Draymond Green可 以扛兩個前鋒的位置,而勇士隊已經同時擺上Green和Barnes作為有身高優勢的側 翼組合。他們倆上場時間中有很大一部份是沒有控衛在場上的,而這個令人感興 趣的高陣容在Toney Douglas傷癒歸隊後依舊可以持續使用。 They're "only" 6-3, but they've compiled that record against a brutal early schedule. So, yeah, the Warriors are really good — better than I had anticipated at this stage, honestly. They have some uncertainties, like any team, but it's clear they're going to be very good at basketball. 他們「只有」6勝3敗(譯按:今天以前),但他們這戰績是因為面對開季較硬的賽 程。所以沒錯,勇士隊很強,老實說這個階段的他們比我預期的還要強。當然他們 也和其他球隊一樣有很多不安定因素,不過顯然的是他們的比賽內將會非常優秀。 But they're also fun as hell. The boss and I rated them as the runaway no. 1 in our watchability rankings, and they've only widened the gap over the other 29 teams so far this season. They are irresistible. They have two of the greatest shooters in the league, including perhaps the greatest 3-point bomber ever. Oracle Arena starts buzzing the moment Curry begins dribbling the ball over half court; no other player has such an effect. Four of their five starters bring elite passing — not just good passing, but elite passing — for their positions. 但他們是支賞心悅目的球隊。老闆和我將他們評選為最值得一看排行榜第一名的球 隊,而他們和其他29隊拉開距離只增不減。他們難以對抗。勇士隊上有兩位聯盟中 最佳射手,其中一位可能是史上最佳三分自走砲。Oracle球場在Curry運球過半場 時便開始鼓譟,沒有任何一位球員會有這種影響力。先發五位有四位的傳球能力在 他們各個位置上被視為頂級的,不只有「好」,而是「頂尖」。 They are watchable in very obvious ways. But they've got the subtleties down, too. Witness the glorious bastardry of Andrew Bogut, one of the league's great purveyors of dirty tricks the referees always seem to miss: 勇士隊有很多顯著的看點。但他們也有不為人知的一面。讓我們見證Andrew Bogut 光榮的髒活吧。聯盟中小動作最多的人之一,但卻往往躲過裁判的眼睛: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NFvm21i4I
Did you catch what Bogut did there? The play is a routine Iggy-Bogut pick-and-roll. Bogut's man, Steven Adams, shows fairly hard on Iggy, forcing Serge Ibaka to shift away from David Lee along the baseline and prepare to help on Bogut's roll to the hoop. Iggy reads the help and dishes to Lee, who coaxes in a tough righty layup even though Ibaka has recovered to challenge the shot. Give a dirty-trick assist to Bogut, who clearly has Ibaka's left arm hooked: 你有注意到Bogut做了什麼嗎?這個戰術是個平凡的Iggy和Bogut雙人檔拆。負責 Bogut的人是Steven Adams,他相當賣力的在協防Iggy,迫使Serge Ibaka必須幫忙 阻止Bogut進攻籃框,而遠離他在底線負責的David Lee。Iggy看到了Ibaka的幫忙 防守並傳球給Lee,即使Ibaka挽救這個失位並試著阻止這次進攻,Lee依然以一個 不輕鬆的右手上籃成功處理這球。給Bogut一個小動作助攻吧,因為他顯然把Ibaka 的左手臂給纏住了。 http://ppt.cc/tn8O Oh, there were more. Bogut manages to poke the ball away from Ibaka in the lane on this Durant-Ibaka pick-and-roll without losing track of Adams: 當然,不只如此。在一次Durant及Ibaka的檔拆配合中,Bogut設法在油漆區把球從 Ibaka手中點走,同時不跟丟Adams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDQ4uIBqJJU
The tight spacing here helps him patrol both guys, but so does the arm lock he has on Adams: 狹窄的空間有助於他同時防守兩個人,但他的手臂也確實緊緊纏住Adams的手臂: http://ppt.cc/OPH~ Here's my personal favorite from last night's thrilling Warriors win: 這個是昨晚勇士高潮迭起的勝利中,我本人最愛的一幕: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXY714czyuI
Ibaka is faster than Bogut, and since Bogut briefly slides out of bounds to give David Lee room to post up in the lane, Ibaka has a head start getting down the floor after Lee's miss. What better way to combat that head start than by grabbing Ibaka around the neck and holding him back? Ibaka比Bogut速度更快,又因為Bogut為了讓David Lee有更多空間在籃下單打而稍 為踩在底線外,所以Ibaka在Lee打鐵後有提早起步的優勢。而有比把Ibaka脖子拉 住並拖慢他速度這個方法還好的招,來對付Ibaka提早起步的優勢嗎? http://ppt.cc/Pc7f It feels icky to like this stuff, given that I have also called for strict enforcement of illegal screens. But I can't help it. Illegal screens are often blatant, right there in front of referees, easy to spot. (Ditto for those instances in which the defender guarding the screener just shoves the dude out of position with two hands.) Overlooking those calls seems like willful allowance of rule-breaking. 如果考慮到我也提倡嚴格的去抓非法掩護的話,喜歡這些小動作令人厭惡。但我無 法不喜歡它。非法掩護常常是公然在裁判眼前上演的犯規,很難不注意到。(防守 掩護的人用雙手把掩護者推開的案例亦然。)忽略這些吹判看似是刻意允許違規。 This stuff that Bogut (and other dirty-trick artists) pulls every game? It's a form of basketball art. It lurks in the shadows, in crowds of arms of legs that obscure the referees' vision. It's sort of delightful. 而這些由Bogut(以及其他的髒活高手)每場做的小動作呢?是籃球的藝術。在眾 多手臂和腿檔住裁判的眼睛時,小動作伺機而動。其實滿討人喜歡的。 But probably not if you're an opposing big man trying to, you know, move your body around the court in an exercise of your own free will. 但你若是敵對大個子試著自由的在場上移動時,可能就會不太爽了。 原文網址- http://tinyurl.com/mqgmjyq 心得: 勇士隊真的是一支優秀的球隊 新球季的人士變動似乎沒有什麼接軌問題 我再幫這篇文補上勇士的優異開季表現 (過了今天比賽後的新數據) ORtg目前105.8,全聯盟第6(只輸熱火、快艇、拓荒者、小牛、火箭) DRtg目前95.7,全聯盟排名第4(只輸溜馬、馬刺、公牛) NetRtg高達10.2,只比馬刺的11.1和溜馬的10.4差,比第4名的熱火8.9還優異 而且當你考慮到勇士開季對手有「馬刺、快艇、雷霆、灰熊、灰狼」時 是否對他們有點肅然起敬? 當然球季還長,但這個攻守效率絕對是爭冠保證 此外,勇士不但打效率籃球,也是團隊籃球 eFG%為56.1%,僅次於聯盟第一熱火隊的58.4% AST%也高達18.8%,只比熱火、老鷹、快艇差,比馬刺(排第5)還高 同時,對手的eFG%只有46.3。全聯盟排名第五(只輸溜馬、公牛、馬刺、太陽) 這支勇士隊可以說是人人會傳球、砲火猛烈、團隊防守也是頂尖 總歸一句,勇士打球不只好看,也是非常有效率,防守亦不容小覷 回歸正題 Bogut的小動作不特別注意還真不好發現 古早金蛇纏絲手這絕學果然還沒失傳 不過小動作太過就不是藝術了 稍微髒一下在團體運動中都難免會發生 但刻意傷人就不是件好事 希望Bogut的髒活停留在藝術層面讓球迷欣賞就好 -- 新手NBA外電翻譯+數據分析部落格;內有網誌好讀版 http://mola79321.pixnet.net/blog 歡迎來討論!!! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 124.218.28.55

11/17 23:30, , 1F
看成髒話@@
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傷勢誤了他~ 不然哪輪的到草莓
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11/17 23:31, , 3F
勇士的球賽真的很好看
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推!
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11/17 23:34, , 5F
Bogut超棒 可惜傷病
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討厭髒活
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11/17 23:36, , 7F
他們的跑轟採車輪戰單打 讓人防不勝防
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11/17 23:37, , 8F
他天賦不只這樣..可惜一直受傷
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11/17 23:37, , 9F
他們創造錯位單打和檔拆後導傳很厲害
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11/17 23:38, , 10F
看成andrew bynum 髒活...
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11/17 23:39, , 11F
希望勇士整隊都能健健康康的~~~~~
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11/17 23:40, , 12F
傷病的確是勇士現在最大的敵人
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11/17 23:42, , 13F
一開始也以為要講火車男孩
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11/17 23:43, , 14F
希望勇士全隊能健康打到季後
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11/17 23:47, , 15F
Bogut也是一號大人物...傷病害人
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11/17 23:50, , 16F
關於H.Barnes那邊有點錯誤 應該是說他因為腳傷只上
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103分鐘 然後今年只打了7分鐘大前鋒 而去年季後賽
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以他打大前鋒的小球陣容幹掉了金塊而讓馬刺陷入麻煩
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11/17 23:52, , 19F
這一篇在看的時候覺得原PO翻超好,一轉出去看又是逸
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仙哥...
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感謝樓上 我沒注意到 是我的錯 QQ
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11/17 23:53, , 22F
哈我說KK 謝謝wilson 但彼得都噓我
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好文 每次看勇士隊的比賽都覺得很有意思 一定可以分
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11/17 23:54, , 24F
析出一堆充實的內容 感謝大大
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※ 編輯: idiotsmart 來自: 124.218.28.55 (11/18 00:00)

11/18 00:02, , 25F
翻譯辛苦了
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GOOD
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11/18 00:08, , 27F
技巧來講 真的很棒 堪稱頂尖 可惜傷痛
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11/18 00:10, , 28F
勇士比賽真的好看 最難看的話大概是火箭
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11/18 00:14, , 30F
好文 好希望jack和landry還在 QQ
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11/18 00:20, , 31F
Jack在 就沒小AI啦 有得必有一失
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11/18 00:23, , 32F
還好吧 JJack的約勇士又不是給不起 看到這場的好
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11/18 00:24, , 33F
卻沒看到前面幾場沒有JJack的替補有多慘
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補 Iggy 還真是補對了 誠心希望勇士今年冠軍
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借轉勇士板,感謝
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※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: sato111 (182.235.36.116), 時間: 11/18/2013 00:28:13

11/18 00:50, , 36F
不仔細看還沒發現XDDD 希望今年可以健健康康
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11/18 10:09, , 37F
這實在說不上光榮…每場被吹的moving screen已經夠多了,
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11/18 10:10, , 38F
Zach Lowe這篇一出來被盯上就糟了= = Bogut攻防兩端都對
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勇士很重要啊
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是說禁區球員身心都好堅強 Ibaka脾氣真好
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11/19 00:19, , 41F
Bogut可是吃t王,可見他的防守端的動作xd
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