[討論] 誰的快速球最難打?

看板HCKuo作者 (Sudba tseloveka)時間17年前 (2008/08/28 20:25), 編輯推噓10(1004)
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※ [本文轉錄自 MLB 看板] 作者: abc12812 (Sudba tseloveka) 看板: MLB 標題: Re: [分享] Baseball America's 2008 Best Tools 時間: Thu Aug 28 19:17:12 2008 : BEST PITCHER : NL AL : 1. Brandon Webb, Diamondbacks 1. Roy Halladay, Blue Jays : 2. Tim Lincecum, Giants 2. Cliff Lee, Indians : 3. Carlos Zambrano, Cubs 3. Josh Beckett, Red Sox : BEST FASTBALL : NL AL : 1. Tim Lincecum, Giants 1. Joel Zumaya, Tigers : 2. Ben Sheets, Brewers 2. Brandon Morrow, Mariners : 3. Edinson Volquez, Reds 3. Joba Chamberlain, Yankees : BEST CURVEBALL : NL AL : 1. Ben Sheets, Brewers 1. Josh Beckett, Red Sox : 2. Tim Lincecum, Giants 2. Francisco Rodriguez, Angels : 3. Cole Hamels, Phillies 3. A.J. Burnett, Blue Jays : BEST SLIDER : NL AL : 1. Jake Peavy, Padres 1. Joe Nathan, Twins : 2. Brad Lidge, Phillies 2. Scott Kazmir, Rays : 3. John Smoltz, Braves 3. Roy Halladay, Blue Jays : BEST CHANGEUP : NL AL : 1. Johan Santana, Mets 1. James Shields, Rays : 2. Cole Hamels, Phillies 2. Cliff Lee, Indians : 3. Edinson Volquez, Reds 3. Mark Buehrle, White Sox : BEST CONTROL : NL AL : 1. Dan Haren, Diamondbacks 1. Roy Halladay, Blue Jays : 2. Greg Maddux, Padres 2. Justin Duchscherer, Athletics : 3. Cole Hamels, Phillies 3. Mike Mussina, Yankees 提供幾位明星投手的各個球種的被打擊率,來比較一下 Fastball Curve Slider Changeup Other Johan Santana .258 .236 .175 Edinson Volquez .246 .241 .360 .202 Ben Sheets .241 .247 Brandon Webb .277 .206 .106 Tim Lincecum .257 .172 .169 .190 Dan Haren .282 .262 .201 .174(splitter) Carlos Zambrano .260 .192 .237 Roy Halladay .264 .191 .315 .307 Cliff Lee .259 .207 .329 .294 Justin Duchscherer .259 .186 .180 Ervin Santana .282 .164 .201 .283 Scott Kazmir .243 .221 .281 Joe Saunders .269 .308 .234 .267 Brad Lidge .260 .146 Kerry Wood .243 .176 .079 Billy Wagner .224 .158 Joe Nathan .213 .164 Jonathan Papelbon .143 .333 .189 Mariano Rivera .217 Francisco Rodriguez .286 .090 .184 .155 Joakim Soria .209 .069 .231 .171 Kuo .194 .333 .307 : BEST RELIEVER : NL AL : 1. Brad Lidge, Phillies 1. Mariano Rivera, Yankees : 2. Brian Wilson, Giants 2. Francisco Rodriguez, Angels : 3. Kerry Wood, Cubs 3. Jonathan Papelbon, Red Sox 用WPA來看的話: Brad Lidge 4.31 Joe Nathan 4.28 Brad Ziegler 3.76 Brian Wilson 3.60 Joakim Soria 3.49 Bobby Jenks 3.40 Francisco Rodriguez 3.29 Mariano Rivera 3.19 Scott Downs 3.12 Ron Mahay 2.81 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.5.3

08/28 19:20,
MO只有直球...尾勁卻飛來飛去, 帥呀
08/28 19:20

08/28 19:37,
MO:Fastball only!!
08/28 19:37

08/28 19:51,
MO: wut is breaking ball??
08/28 19:51

08/28 19:53,
他的對手可以嗆他,就是因為沒變化球才會先發轉後援
08/28 19:53

08/28 19:54,
MO會嗆回去 我不用變化球就把打者吃死死
08/28 19:54

08/28 19:54,
I can't 魂!!!!
08/28 19:54

08/28 19:55,
先發是0:0開始唷
08/28 19:55

08/28 19:59,
我很想知道寶貝碰用直球的比率到底多高 GAMEDAY上都是連發
08/28 19:59

08/28 19:59,
有沒有Kuo的?
08/28 19:59

08/28 20:01,
Papelbon 直球比率大概80%
08/28 20:01

08/28 20:02,
Kuo還不是CL
08/28 20:02

08/28 20:03,
補上小小郭的數據
08/28 20:03
※ 編輯: abc12812 來自: 140.112.5.3 (08/28 20:04)

08/28 20:05,
Kuo直球果然很威
08/28 20:05

08/28 20:05,
那我補上Kuo使用比例~y
08/28 20:05

08/28 20:05,
Kuo 的 WPA/LI 也排很前面
08/28 20:05

08/28 20:06,
Fastball 79.7% Curve 9.5% Slider 10.72%
08/28 20:06

08/28 20:11,
Kuo的速球打不到 所以專挑其他球種打嗎XDD
08/28 20:11

08/28 20:12,
這裡的fastball應該不單指直球吧 應該還包含sinker cutter...
08/28 20:12

08/28 20:14,
Yes 大體算成直球系
08/28 20:14
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08/28 22:56, , 1F
捕手很輕鬆 拼命CALL速球就好了
08/28 22:56, 1F

08/29 00:02, , 2F
接那種直球一點也不輕鬆吧....
08/29 00:02, 2F

08/29 00:59, , 3F
光那個本壘板變化的尾勁就不好接了,好接的球怎麼會不好打
08/29 00:59, 3F

08/29 09:14, , 4F
反而咖夫和思賴打被輕鬆打
08/29 09:14, 4F

08/29 11:04, , 5F
所以馬丁也真的是厲害
08/29 11:04, 5F

08/29 13:51, , 6F
狂丟直球 不配速 再強都會被打爆。。
08/29 13:51, 6F

08/29 14:01, , 7F
變化球只是指有off-speed的球種嗎? cutter之類的都不是嗎
08/29 14:01, 7F

08/29 14:02, , 8F
90miles差不多的速球可以直走、上飄、打者左右竄,應該很難
08/29 14:02, 8F

08/29 14:03, , 9F
判斷吧..對打者來說一局不足以破解與適應
08/29 14:03, 9F

08/29 14:06, , 10F
Mo真的是此中強者
08/29 14:06, 10F

08/29 14:07, , 11F
更何況狀況好他都可以上95~90miles左右
08/29 14:07, 11F

08/29 15:55, , 12F
MO就沒被打爆
08/29 15:55, 12F

08/30 12:18, , 13F
Mo也是有被打爆過的..待在MLB夠久的哪個投手沒被爆過
08/30 12:18, 13F

08/31 01:18, , 14F
真當他是神= =... 沒聽過"Welcome to MLB???"
08/31 01:18, 14F
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