[外電] LBJ或許會是史上第一?

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※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1HWuib8X ] 作者: KKyosuke (春日恭介) 看板: NBA 標題: [外絮] LBJ或許會是史上第一? 時間: Fri May 3 18:02:10 2013 http://0rz.tw/dXXKt LeBron James will be awarded the NBA’s Most Valuable Player award sometime next week. I don’t have a vote nor any inside information on the voting process, but it’s as easy a call as expecting May to provide warmer weather as the month moves along, or predicting that Kelly Dwyer will probably give some stupid hipster in a hat a withering glare around last call this Sunday morning. It’s going to happen. 在下周的某個時候 LBJ應該會獲得本季的MVP 雖然作者沒有投票權 但是這顯而易見 What is nearly as assured is the potential for LeBron James to become the first unanimous MVP selection in NBA history. After a season like LeBron’s it ’s entirely possible, and certainly appropriate. And it’s also unprecedented due to the work of one man, former CNN and ESPN anchor Fred Hickman, who decided to cast an MVP vote for Allen Iverson in 2000, denying Shaquille O’Neal a deserved unanimous voting record. 或許應該關心的是 LBJ會不會是第一個全票第一名當選的MVP 以LBJ今年以及熱火今年的表現來看 這極有可能 當然 這件事之所以會是史無前例的 也是因為當年CNN及ESPN作家Fred Hickman在MVP 投票時選了AI而非Shaq當第一名 而讓Shaq沒有獲得這項榮譽 FOX Sports’ Chris Tomasson caught up with Hickman recently to discuss the fallout of that non-event: Fox體育的Chris Tomasson在那之後找到了Hickman討論這件事 “It was crazy,’’ Hickman remembers about the fallout. “I got death threats.’’ Hickman, now sports director for WVUE-TV in New Orleans, doesn’t have a ballot this season. If he did, he said he would vote for James and believes the Miami Heat star should be a unanimous pick. "這太瘋狂了" Hickman回憶 "我當時甚至收到了死亡威脅" Hickman今年沒有投票權 但他說如果他有的話他會投給LBJ 而且相信LBJ會以全票獲選 “The morning it went public (that O’Neal won the MVP), I was taking my son to school,’’ Hickman recalls. “My former agent called and said, ‘We’re going to have a busy day.’ ’’ Hickman did acknowledge voting for Iverson and provided his reasoning. Still, a firestorm ensued that included the sports anchor receiving death threats. “About three or four people called and left messages,’’ Hickman said of those threats. "They said, ‘How could you not vote for Shaq? You should be dead.’ I reported them to (CNN) security. That was before the Internet being what is now. Can you imagine if they had Twitter back then?’’ 當O'neal獲得mvp的消息公布當天早上 Hickman正在跟小孩聊天 他當時的經紀人打電話給他 "我們應該會有忙碌的一天了" Hickman承認了他投給AI 也說明了原因 但是這仍然引起了一陣風暴 包括了死亡威脅 "大概有三四個人打來留言 他們說:你怎能不投給SHAQ?! 你應該去死" 然後他就告訴CNN這件事情 這還是在網路時代之前的事 你敢想像如果當年有twitter的話會有多恐怖嗎? And why did Hickman go for Iverson, over O’Neal? “I certainly didn’t mean to be the lone one,’’ Hickman said. “I picked the guy who was the most valuable to his team. Philadelphia without Iverson was a CBA team, and if the Lakers didn’t have Shaq, they would have still been a pretty good team.’’ 那為啥 Hickman投給了AI而非SHAQ? "我沒想到我會是唯一(沒投給SHAQ)的那個人" "我選AI只是因為他是對球隊最重要的人 76人沒有AI只不過是支CBA球隊 湖人沒有SHAQ 的話 應該還會是支不錯的隊伍" Which is ridiculous, of course. Shaq shouldn’t have been penalized or docked a vote just because Allen Iverson’s second-best teammate that year was Theo Ratliff. Sometimes the league’s most valuable player can also have a stud like Kobe Bryant by his side. It happens. This is why teams like the 1999-00 Los Angeles Lakers win 67 games. 這很蠢 Shaq不應該只因為AI的第一助手是Ratliff這理由而遭受懲罰 有時候最強的球員旁邊就是會有個例如Kobe這種球員支持 這就是為什麼湖人當年能贏67場的原因 What’s strangest amongst all this is the fact that Hickman – whose most notable accomplishment during that particular season was to lead CNN’s coverage of the 1999-to-2000 New Year’s crossover telecast – was given a vote in the first place. 更奇怪的是當年為什麼Hickman會有投票權 Why was Fred Hickman – a very good television journalist with heaps of credibility in his own industry – given a vote for the NBA’s Most Valuable Player award? What part of that job made him an NBA analyst of any sort? Remember, this was back when CNN (and not the fledgling CNN/SI Network) had its own weekly NBA show on Sunday nights, and that wasn’t even hosted by Hickman. Instead, Andre Aldridge, Bob Lorenz, and a series of others hosts ran that particular weekly highlight program, with featured analysts including Mike Glenn, Kevin Loughery, and a very loud Philadelphia Inquirer columnist named Stephen A. Smith. 他雖然是一個非常好的電視記者 但是看不出跟NBA有什麼關聯性 他做了什麼nba研究? 當年CNN有Sunday NBA show 但這根本跟Hickman無關 Presumably things have changed. Not only has the influx of basketball journalists on the internet (we think; some pretty prominent NBA voices have no vote) made it so a series of high-end television cats have been bumped from the rotation. Well, we hope. Nothing against ABC/ESPN’s studio crew, but do you get the feeling Michael Wilbon (who has to speak effortlessly on all sports both amateur and pro five nights a week on ‘Pardon the Interruption’) gives off the scent of a guy that is all over NBA League Pass on the same night The Big Football Game is on? Or the newspaper general columnist that is asked by his editors to basically ignore the NBA until the All-Star break? (這段只是舉例Hickman有投票權的荒謬性 就不翻了) The internet, and Twitter in particular, has changed things. Just by following the right people, a local broadcaster who doesn’t have the time to hunker down in front of all 30 teams throughout the week can stay reasonably caught up just by staring at his or her phone for a few hours while waiting for yet another flight. And the shaming aspect, frankly, plays a part. When a stray vote brings up the Twitter ridicule, fans start sleuthing. This is why, for years, both fans and some journalists have been calling for transparent votes, with each voter’s ballot going on the record. 網路時代改變了許多事情 如果你沒有時間跟30隊的新聞 只要在Twitter上follow正確的消息來源 在等飛機時用手機花幾個小時看看就可以了 如果有人做出了愚蠢的投票 twitter上就會有一陣批判 粉絲也會想找出原因 這也是近年來 粉絲跟某些記者都想推行投票透明化--公開每個投票者的投票結果 This year’s MVP vote won’t need to be as transparent. LeBron James, even after gliding through the season’s first two months, will win with a unanimous vote. Arguments about where Tony Parker’s placement over Russell Westbrook or Kobe Bryant’s overall worth on a 45-win team will be relegated as pointless, and we’ll just have to steel our just-as-pointless-though-I-can ’t-help-it outrage for the All-NBA and All-Defensive Team votes. And because nobody will give someone like James Harden a “look how valuable he is to his team!” vote this season, Fred Hickman will still be the answer to that trivia question. His choice, his call, his vote, his Wikipedia entry. 今年的MVP應該不需要這個就能搞定 就算球季前兩個月表現有些起伏(有嗎@@?) LBJ應該可以全票獲選 有關TP是否>西河或是有關Kobe的爭論在mvp票選也沒有意義 這些爭論就留到NBA最佳陣容或防守最佳球隊吧 而因為應該沒有人會把MVP的第一名投給像是Harden這種球員只因為 "看!他對他的球隊多有價值!" 對於這個問題 Fred Hickman的選擇 他的WIKI條目應該還是唯一的答案 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.34.53.151

05/03 18:03, , 1F
引戰無誤 最強的旁邊有個例外KOBE
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05/03 18:04, , 2F
我投楊洨
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05/03 18:04, , 3F
不要在沒有KOBE的舞台決定第一
05/03 18:04, 3F

05/03 18:07, , 4F
湖迷真恐怖 動不動就要殺人
05/03 18:07, 4F

05/03 18:08, , 5F
雖然james比較強但我還是票投KOBE
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05/03 18:08, , 6F
什麼??史上最imba 單防最強 低位最強 單打最強 的神
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05/03 18:08, , 7F
你最後一段在翻啥
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05/03 18:09, , 8F
之kobe一票都沒有???
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05/03 18:09, , 9F
投ai真的怪,有kobe還有如此戰績表現更為困難
05/03 18:09, 9F

05/03 18:09, , 10F
怎麼可以坦白kobe沒有舞台了!
05/03 18:09, 10F

05/03 18:09, , 11F
5>>>>>>1
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05/03 18:09, , 12F
的確史上第ㄧ 這有什麼疑問
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05/03 18:10, , 13F
CBA中槍 XD
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05/03 18:10, , 14F
CBA躺著也中槍XDD
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05/03 18:11, , 15F
是講現在這個CBA?
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05/03 18:11, , 16F
還有球迷那一票阿 KOBE還有機會
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05/03 18:12, , 17F
最後一段如果翻不好請指正
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05/03 18:12, , 18F
請一個與NBA無關的記者來投票,這實在是亂來..
05/03 18:12, 18F

05/03 18:12, , 19F
我個人覺得他就是繼續在婊Fred Hickman而已
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05/03 18:12, , 20F
不是要怪你 原文我也看不懂QQ
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05/03 18:13, , 21F
是美國的CBA....NBA球隊少了球星也不會比中國的CBA差
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05/03 18:14, , 22F
討厭歐肥就說 理由一大堆 全票第一 作夢卡緊
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05/03 18:14, , 23F
大意就是Fred Hickman的過去總總會成為現今投票者
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05/03 18:15, , 24F
的借鏡 怕像他一樣亂投然後被抓出來鞭
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05/03 18:15, , 25F
在NBDL之前 NBA的"小聯盟"是CBA啊
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05/03 18:16, , 26F
我以為這件事應該大家都知道我就沒特別註明
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05/03 18:17, , 27F
而且當年AI在MVP總排名好像只有第七...
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05/03 18:17, , 28F
是美國的啦 76人再怎麼鳥也不至於是中國CBA水準
05/03 18:17, 28F

05/03 18:20, , 29F
對於這個問題 維基上關於Fred Hickman的條目就是答案
05/03 18:20, 29F

05/03 18:22, , 30F
好像順了一點 我修一下
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※ 編輯: KKyosuke 來自: 114.34.53.151 (05/03 18:24)

05/03 18:26, , 31F
一定會有人跑票的吧
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05/03 18:28, , 32F
通常這種新聞跑出來 一定會有人故意作亂 就像此板 XD
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05/03 18:28, , 33F
我也覺得一定會有人跑票,100%太扯了
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05/03 18:29, , 34F
最後一段是說 假如NBA TV有出一題Trivia Question
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05/03 18:29, , 35F
反正又不影響大局,還可以搏新聞板面
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05/03 18:29, , 36F
OKC跟LA附近的一定會
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05/03 18:29, , 37F
史上最強!?
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05/03 18:29, , 38F
問說是誰在2000年唯一沒把MVP第一名選票給大歐
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05/03 18:30, , 39F
那答案就是Hickman
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05/03 18:31, , 40F
不像是les說的這樣 是那樣的話直接用直述句
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05/03 18:31, , 41F
不用舉Harden當例子 也不會需要用到still
05/03 18:31, 41F

05/03 18:31, , 42F
是媒體和記者投票吧?
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05/03 18:31, , 43F
lesnaree2你翻的怪怪的 他那段的含意應該是我前面說
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05/03 18:32, , 44F
的那樣
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05/03 18:34, , 45F
今年的lbj沒100%那這票選也沒啥公信力了
05/03 18:34, 45F

05/03 18:36, , 46F
KD整個季後賽沒有統治力 不然應該可以分到一些票
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05/03 18:37, , 47F
票早就投完了,跟季後賽表現一點關係都沒有
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05/03 18:37, , 48F
KOBE拼到腿都斷了 能不能可憐他給他一座MVP阿
05/03 18:37, 48F

05/03 18:38, , 49F
馬刺數據不敵 KD駭喜戰術 甜瓜輸了2場 LBJ是有機會
05/03 18:38, 49F

05/03 18:38, , 50F
就像MLB名人堂投票,總會有些人不投第一次被提名的
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05/03 18:38, , 51F
啊?投完了啊
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05/03 18:38, , 52F
NBA也一樣,一定有人會因為各種奇怪的因素而不投
05/03 18:38, 52F

05/03 18:39, , 53F
原來會被死亡威脅,看起來就算不想投LBJ都不行了
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05/03 18:42, , 54F
左邊是超大型LBJ,右邊是愷之LBJ
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05/03 18:44, , 55F
所以應該投給西河
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05/03 18:45, , 56F
美國的CBA是三小XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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05/03 18:54, , 57F
就是當年的NBDL...只是跟NBA沒有隸屬關係 現在倒了
05/03 18:54, 57F

05/03 18:55, , 58F
應該說是"類似"現在的NBDL
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05/03 19:12, , 59F
LBJ已經是史上第一了 看著他五連霸吧!!
05/03 19:12, 59F

05/03 19:13, , 60F
意思是 現在網路更普及 你若沒投LBJ 就會被群眾轟炸
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05/03 19:19, , 61F
又是死亡威脅
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05/03 20:31, , 62F
當年應該給俠客是因為有KOBE在搗亂還是可以拿MVP
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05/03 20:45, , 63F
史上抱大腿第一
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05/03 21:06, , 64F
史上抱大腿第一
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05/03 21:43, , 65F
腿斷又沒差 那麼多大腿抱
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05/03 21:46, , 66F
LBJ已經撇掉第三名很多正逐漸接近史上最強的MJ了....
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05/03 21:52, , 67F
毫無疑問 比老大強多了
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05/03 21:56, , 68F
LBJ就跟呂布一樣,當代第一猛將但沒志氣抱大腿
05/03 21:56, 68F

05/03 21:57, , 69F
再多MVP也及不上魔術跟大鳥的偉大,更別說跟MJ比了
05/03 21:57, 69F

05/03 22:27, , 70F
魔術就算了 大鳥highlight難看到爆炸
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05/03 22:44, , 71F
酸民又來大腿論 請更正是帶大腿降臨好嗎?
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05/03 22:57, , 72F
魔術已經在LA了 他是要去哪抱大腿? 大鳥的Celtic當時
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05/03 22:58, , 73F
也算是豪門大腿 如果他們一開始被費城選上再說。
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05/03 23:03, , 74F
不可能
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05/03 23:40, , 75F
5 >>>>>>> 1 謝謝...
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05/04 00:09, , 76F
全票第一有難度 很難沒有投給KD或Melo的?
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05/04 00:10, , 77F
如果能全票第一就猛了
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05/04 00:18, , 78F
兩鍋頭史上第一 謎謎設惹兒
05/04 00:18, 78F
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05/04 21:31, , 79F
lbj真的有點強 尤其現在感覺沒有人可以跟他平起平坐
05/04 21:31, 79F
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