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Inbox: Is Kluber a potential trade candidate? Beat reporter Jordan Bastian answers Indians fans' questions By Jordan Bastian / MLB.com | 11/15/2013 12:55 P.M. ET http://ppt.cc/kGKb Any truth to the Mark Trumbo to Tribe rumors? He'd sure look good manning first base in 2014. -- Ricky C., South Bend, Ind. 有任何關於交易來Trumbo的消息嗎？14年讓他當一壘手看起來蠻有搞頭的。 -- Ricky C., South Bend, Ind. 'Tis the season for rumors. Indeed, there was one floating around Twitter on Thursday night that claimed the Angels and Indians had a deal in place that would send right-hander Corey Kluber (plus a couple of Minor Leaguers) to Orange County in exchange for Trumbo. 這是個謠言四起的季節。的確星期四晚上推特出現了這則傳言，天使要用Trumbo和印地安人換右投Kluber和幾個小聯盟球員。 MLB.com's Angels reporter, Alden Gonzalez, asked Angels general manager Jerry Dipoto about that potential trade scenario. "If that's the case, count me as the most shocked," Dipoto said. Let's consider that about as official a debunking of an Internet trade rumor can get. That said, the concept of Cleveland targeting Trumbo to fill the perceived need for right-handed power certainly makes sense, as does L.A. looking for reinforcements on the mound. This particular trade rumor, however, appears to break down if, well, you break it down. 天使的官網記者Alden Gonzalez詢問了天使GM Dipoto關於這個可能的交易狀況。 Dipoto表示：「我也是你問我我才知道的。」網路上的傳言說，如果得到Trumbo，克里夫蘭剛好可以填補一個強力右打；而天使那邊則得到了投手戰力的加強，聽起來頗合理的。然而如果你仔細檢視這個交易傳言，你會發現其實沒什麼搞頭的。 First, consider the fact that the Indians already stand to possibly lose starters Ubaldo Jimenez and Scott Kazmir to free agency this offseason. Trading Kluber, who does not hit his arbitration years until 2016, would not make much sense unless Cleveland knows with 100 percent certainty that it can add 500-600 innings to its rotation this offseason. 首先，考量到印地安人已經準備好失去先發投手Jimenez和Kazmir了。這時交易掉Kluber一點都不合理，他在16年才第一次薪資仲裁。除非克里夫蘭早就百分之百確定他們有辦法找人來吃這500-600局。 Kluber is a near lock for the Tribe's staff for 2014. During a 16-start stretch from May 15-Aug. 5 -- prior to the pitcher sustaining a right middle finger injury -- Kluber was among the top 10-15 starters in the American League. In that span, he ranked third in strikeout-to-walk ratio (4.80), fourth in Fielding Independent Pitching (3.08), sixth in innings (99 2/3), seventh in strikeouts (96), 11th in WHIP (1.12) and 13th in ERA (3.07). That's a whole lot of promise for the future of Cleveland's rotation. 而且基本上Kluber已經確定是14年的先發一角了。在3/15到他右手中指受傷的8/5前的16場先發中，Kluber是美聯前15優秀的先發投手。那段時期，他的三振保送率是4.8，名列第三；吃99.2局 (6)；三振96次 (7)， WHIP是1.12 (11)，ERA 3.07(13) 。他可是克里夫蘭輪值未來值得信賴的一員。 As for Trumbo, he can hit free agency by 2017, making such a deal very one-sided financially. The right-handed slugger's value also takes a hit when looking beyond the home runs (34 in 2013 and an average of 32 from 2011-13). Trumbo's 109 OPS+ in '13 ranked below Nick Swisher (117) and slighly above Michael Brantley (107). Trumbo's 2.2 WAR would have ranked seventh on Cleveland last year, right behind Michael Bourn (2.4). 至於Trumbo，他17年會進入FA，使得這筆交易變得只有一邊在花錢。而如果你不只是看全壘打的話(13年34轟，11到13年平均32夯)，他的打擊可會失色不少。今年Trumbo的OPS+是109，排在Swisher(117)之後，Brantley(107)之前。而他2.2的WAR在克里夫蘭僅能排第七，在Michael Bourn之後(2.4) Fangraphs.com also has an interesting "dollars" metric, which attempts to translate WAR into value in the free-agent market. In 2013, Trumbo's dollar value was $12.3 million, which was between Ryan Raburn ($12.4 million) and Swisher ($12.1 million) when compared to Cleveland's roster. The power is nice -- and something Cleveland could use -- but Trumbo's value is hurt by his low on-base percentage (.294) and high strikeout total (184). Fangraphs.com將WAR換算成在FA市場的價值，在13年Trumbo的價值是12.3M，在印地安人名單中剛好在Raburn(12.4M)和Swisher(12.1M)中間。他的長打能力很好，也有不少是克里夫蘭需要的，但他過低的上壘率(.294)和高三振(184)也損害了他的價值。 Considering the underwhelming crop of free-agent shortstops, shouldn't the Indians make a serious effort to trade Asdrubal Cabrera? Mike Aviles could serve as a stopgap in 2014, while Francisco Lindor finishes his development, right? -- Ely S., New Rochelle, N.Y. 考慮到我們之後還有超級游擊大物，印地安人是不是應該努力試著交易掉Asdrubal Cabrera 呢？Aviles在14年可以先頂一下游擊，等到Lindor成功養成再交棒給他，對吧？ -- Ely S., New Rochelle, N.Y. I'm not sure the Indians should be the ones pushing hard to trade Cabrera, but the club should certainly listen if other teams call about the shortstop. The 28-year-old Cabrera is coming off a down year (in which he faded in the second half for a third straight season) and is set to earn $10 million in 2014, making his value lower than in previous seasons. 我不確定印地安人會主動想交易Cabrera，但球團也會聽聽其他對他有興趣的球隊的報價。 28歲的Cabrera今年相當慘，在14年的薪水會是10M，這也使得他的交易價值比前幾季來的低很多。 Cleveland loves having Aviles in the backup role, so I'm not sure it would be as simple as throwing him into the starting job, if Cabrera were dealt. The Indians would likely need to add more depth, creating a cushion to avoid forcing Lindor to the Majors earlier than necessary. As we sit here today, I think the Tribe will open 2014 with Cabrera at shortstop again. 克里夫蘭當然還是屬意Aviles在板凳待命，所以我不確定就算Cabrerea被交易，把他丟去先發是不是如同想像般容易。印地安人比較有可能增加內野深度，避免過早讓尚未成熟的 Lindor貿然登上大聯盟。不過從今天看來，我想明年開幕時Cabrera還是會是我們的先發游擊手。 Do you expect the Indians to be more conservative in the offseason, or can we expect a similar aggressive approach toward the free-agency period much as they had last year? -- Jose T., Utuado, Puerto Rico 你認為印地安人今年冬天會比較保守一點，還是會像去年一樣積極尋求自由球員？ -- Jose T., Utuado, Puerto Rico Last winter, when the Indians needed to overhaul the roster, the aggressive approach made sense, especially when the team could navigate free agency with a protected Draft pick. It's also worth remembering that Cleveland made trades to free up salary space to help make the free-agent additions possible. The payroll did not jump dramatically, even with the signings of Swisher, Bourn and others. 去年冬天時，笑臉人正需要大改選手名單。所以動作積極點也是合理的，特別在當時可是不用丟選秀權的狀況下。還有值得提到的是為了加入自由球員，克里夫蘭也清了不少薪資空間出來。在簽下Swisher、Bourn和其他人之後，薪資總額並沒有劇烈增加。 Cleveland already made one move along those lines by releasing former closer Chris Perez, who could have earned $8 million to $9 million through arbitration this winter. That financial breathing room might help toward adding help for the rotation or bullpen. Compared to last winter, though, I do think this offseason will be more conservative. The needs are more narrowed and the team is coming off a 92-win season. 克里夫蘭已經先釋出了前終結者Chris Perez，他明年仲裁後可能薪資會增加成8到9M，這部分的財政空間很可能會拿來尋求輪值或牛棚的外援。然而比起去年冬天，我認為這個休季的確會比較保守。目前的需求少很多，而我們也才剛以92勝坐收。 What is the deal with releasing Perez? Did he have no value as trade bait? Could you explain the reason the Tribe would just let him go? Is it all related to arbitration? Thanks. -- Steve L., Westfield, Ohio 釋出Perez是怎麼一回事？難道他完全沒有交易價值嗎？你可以解釋一下為什麼印地安人就這樣地把他釋出嗎？難道只是因為和薪資仲裁有關嗎？ -- Steve L., Westfield, Ohio Unless you're a lights-out closer, Perez's salary through arbitration would have been a high asking price for any team. Once Perez lost the closing job in September, that projected salary became far too high for a middle reliever. If he was traded, the arbitration raise would still apply for the acquiring team, which would probably have asked the Indians to chip in some salary. Add Perez's off-field drama on top of everything else, and he is a player that's very hard to trade. 除非你是一個已屆退休的終結者，不然Perez的薪水在仲裁過後可能對任何隊伍來說都是過高的價錢。在Perez在九月離開終結者位置轉當一般中繼的同時，他預期的薪水也變得遠遠超出負擔。就算他被交易掉了，仲裁過後的薪資還是對他適用，這也有可能讓對方要求印地安人必須吃點薪水。再加上Perez在場外實在管不住自己的嘴巴，使得他真的是個很難交易掉的選手。 I would wager that the Indians spent months assessing Perez's trade value, and found out that other teams weren't willing to give much for a pitching who was declining in performance, increasing in salary and creating distractions off the field. Releasing him was the best route for both sides. 我敢保證笑臉人花了好幾個月來估算Perez的交易價值，然後他們發現其他隊不見得會想要這樣一個表現衰退、薪資又增加、場外戲劇不斷的投手。所以直接釋出他可能是對雙方都最好的做法。 Despite his off year, do the Indians believe that next year we could see the Vinnie Pestano of old? -- John G., North Ridgeville, Ohio 儘管這季令人失望，明年有機會看到以前那個Pestano嗎？ -- John G., North Ridgeville, Ohio Statistically, Pestano has declined virtually across the board in each of the past two years. That said, the former setup man had injury issues last season that offered a possible explanation. Cleveland is hoping that an offseason of rest will do Pestano wonders. I would expect the reliever to be worked in as a middle reliever at first, but he will certainly be aiming to regain his late-inning form. 從數據上來看，Pestano這兩年的成績可說是逐步下滑。據說我們的前佈局投手去年就已經帶傷也許是個合理的解釋。克里夫蘭希望一個冬天的休息可以在Pestano身上發生奇蹟。我可以想見他會先以中繼身分出場，但他很可能會想拿回他在比賽後半段的角色。 What's going to happen to my favorite underdog, Lou Marson? Does he have a place on this team next year? I love what the Yanimal (Yan Gomes ) did last year, but I can't help but feel like Lou's going be hitting the road this offseason. -- Jeff T., Mentor, Ohio 接下來球隊會怎麼安排輸掉捕手位置的Lou Marson呢？他明年在隊上還會有位置嗎？我很讚賞去年Gomes的表現，只是忍不住在想Marson說不定這個冬天就會打包去別隊了。 -- Jeff T., Mentor, Ohio If Marson is healthy and recovered from the right shoulder injury that kept him sidelined for most of 2013, he still has value as a backup catcher for the Indians. Consider that Cleveland has used only two catchers in an entire season just five times in the past 25 years. Over that span, the team has averaged more than three catchers per season, including five in 2013. Even if Marson opens at Triple-A as Cleveand's third-string option, his defense, arm and ability to hit lefties help his value on the depth chart. 如果Marson保持健康，讓他缺席幾乎整季的右肩傷勢也成功痊癒，他仍然可以在隊中擔任備位捕手。畢竟克里夫蘭在過去25年中，一季只用兩個捕手的次數只有五次。在那段時期，平均每季會用超過三個捕手，包括13年用了5個。甚至Marson可能開季從3A出發，他的守備、阻殺、殺左投能力都可以增加他在名單中的價值。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.231.105.49