[Agnelli] 給Juventus股東的一封信

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官網: http://www.juventus.com/en/news/news/2015/ andrea-agnelli-letter-to-shareholders-.php 縮址: http://tinyurl.com/oq73oxl Andrea Agnelli letter to shareholders 01.10.2015 18:00 - in: Official statements Dear Italian champions, 致親愛的義大利冠軍們: After a process which began in the summer of 2010, with a complete overhaul of the managerial staff, a financial injection to support the turnaround and correct management, your club has returned to success on the pitch and ensured economic sustainability. Four league titles, three Italian Super Cups, and steady improvement in the Champions League, from the quarter-finals in 2012/13 to the final in Berlin, with a Europa League semi-final in between. All this against a backdrop of increased revenue, which saw the club first halve its losses year on year, before recording an operating profit in 2013/14 and a net profit in the season just gone. 從2010年夏天開始管理階層整個改頭換面、為了扭轉局勢與改正管理而財務援助的 這段期間之後,您的球隊已經在競技方面回到正軌,並且確保了經濟面的存續性。 四座聯賽冠軍、三座義大利超級盃,歐洲賽場的進步從2012/13賽季歐冠八強、隔年 歐聯四強、到決戰柏林,而在幕後,收入的增加使球隊在2012/13賽季先消弭了一半 的虧損,然後2013/14賽季營運操作盈餘,終於在甫結束的上個賽季實現淨利。 The management and shareholders are now faced with a new, potentially more arduous task. We have to face up to the real dilemma of every top-level football club. Only great results on the pitch – success at national and international level – bring significant revenue, be it from television, commercial deals or sporting achievement. Yet only with a balanced, diversified structure to revenue can we compete at the highest level. 如今管理階層與股東們面對一個全新的、恐怕是更艱難的任務。我們必須正視每支 頂級球隊都有的兩難困境,無論是國內還是國際賽事唯有優秀賽果,才能經由電視 傳播、商業交易與競技獎金帶來顯著的收入。唯有具備平衡健全的營收結構,我們 才能擁有最高水準的競爭力。 The significant overhaul of the squad for the 2015/16 season, which ensures the Bianconeri remain highly competitive, along with the strategies to expand revenue by seeking global partners (such as the agreement recently started with adidas, which will put Juventus in the same international bracket – both in terms of revenue and visibility – as top clubs like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich) will allow your club to continue to develop. 為了確保斑馬軍團的競爭力,以及藉由尋求全球合作夥伴拓展收入,像是最近開始 與adidas的協議,使Juventus在收入與能見度達到與Real Madrid與Bayern Munich 相同的國際水準,2015/16賽季球隊陣容的大換血將能讓您的球隊繼續成長。 The commercial strategy we have developed over the last few years will continue to contribute to maximising revenue from sponsorships and Juventus Stadium. Direct management of licensing and retail represents a great challenge, an area previously precluded by other commercial deals. A further challenge is to increase our reach to the almost 300 million Juventus supporters around the world, by expanding in digital media and e-commerce. 這幾年來我們所發展的商業策略將繼續最大化來自贊助商與Juventus Stadium的收 入。商業授權與銷售的直營這個龐大難題是之前被其他商業交易所排除的部分,而 更深入的挑戰則是藉由數位傳媒與電子商務的拓展,為已經在全世界擁有接近三億 支持者的Juventus更添影響力。 Juventus’ clear progress in running the club has not, however, sufficed to prompt profound, definitive reflection on the national level as to the future of Italian football. On several sides, important figures in the world of football are calling for the game in this country to be considered a fully-fledged industry which contributes to the country both via its tax revenue and its 'supply chain'. Yet sadly, Italian football has not found the human resources able to put it back at the centre of political debate. In our game, individuals who are neither important figures nor financers enjoy excessive power. It is an environment which has deceitfully 'generated' the consensus of a self-referential system. In the meantime, for the fifth time in six years, Italian teams that qualified for the preliminary rounds of the Champions League failed to reach the competition proper, and Italian clubs, despite finding themselves in a fairly healthy market position, have not been able to grow at the same pace as their European competitors. In the five-year period 2009-2014, revenue in English football grew by 61%, 46% in Germany, 32% in Spain, 42% in France, 86% in Russia and 62% in Turkey. Revenue in Italy for the same period grew by just 14%. 然而,Juventus的明顯進步並不足以促使在國家層級、乃至於義大利足球的未來有 深刻的、明確的影響。在不同場合,有許多足球界重量級人士正呼籲,為這個國家 貢獻稅收以及產業供應鏈的義大利的足球產業應該要更加成熟,然而可悲的是,義 大利足球並未找到能使其重新回到施政核心的人力資源。在我們的足球界,既非重 要人士也不是資助者的一些人物享有過大的權力,而這個環境則詭譎地營造出一個 故步自封之體系的共業。與此同時,這六年間取得歐洲冠軍聯賽附加淘汰賽資格的 義大利球隊第五度未能成功晉級,而義大利足球隊們雖然還算位於相對來說健康的 市場,但是仍跟不上歐洲的競爭對手。在2009到2014的這五年間,英格蘭足球的收 入增加了61%,德國增加46%,西班牙增加32%,法國增加42%,俄羅斯增加86%,土耳 其增加62%,可是同期在義大利,只增加了14%。 The hope is that the next Olympic Games, at the end of 2016, can accelerate reforms to the structure of Italian football and foster the natural change in personnel, competencies and the way the game is run. This is a process the league bodies, footballers and coaches have to grasp in order to avoid spending a further five years, between now and 2020, listing what should be done but that no one does. 人們希望在2016賽季末的下一屆奧林匹克運動會可以加速義大利足球有結構上的改 革、培育人員素質、競爭力以及經營的方式。這是聯賽本身、足球員以及教練必須 抓緊時間進行的,避免從今至2020再虛度五年,畫了大餅卻一事無成。 Football has to go back to the heart of this world and, in the short term, in order to improve the product we offer supporters, it would be wise to tackle the following issues: 足球必須回歸這個世界的核心舞台,並且在現階段短期間,為了改善我們給支持者 所端出的菜色,解決以下議題將會是明智的。 1. For too long the idea of creating B teams has been rejected, while other countries have guaranteed their young players steady development. Serie A needs to have the strength to bridge the generational gap between the Primavera championship (Under-19) and potentially joining the first team, which typically occurs between 22 and 23 years old. 一、長久以來建置二軍的概念都遭到否決,而其他國家則已經能確保年輕球員的持 續成長。義甲聯賽必須要有能力銜接19歲以下的Primavera青年隊聯賽,到能夠躋身 一軍之間,通常是22至23歲的世代交替間斷。(註一) 2. Reforming the league system is imperative and must be accompanied by significant reflection on the issue of mutuality. Relegated teams must be protected so as to avoid jeopardising, as is currently the case, the business’s continuity. It is patently clear that cases such as Parma, who went bankrupt during the league season, or the continued problems many clubs are encountering in obtaining UEFA licences, undermine the credibility of the system as a whole, making it less attractive for potential new investors, who we need, provided they present clear, long-term development plans. 二、改造聯賽體系勢在必行,並且不能是單方面思考。降級的球隊必須受到保護以 避免惡性退場,即商業的持續性,正如遭遇破產的Parma,以及一直有球隊未能取得 歐洲足球總會聯盟(UEFA)認證,都敗壞了整個體系的信譽,使義大利足球對投資者 的吸引力減損,而我們必須為這些投資者提供及時明確的長期發展計畫。(註二) 3. The situation regarding stadia, save rare and noteworthy exceptions, is unchanged. Not only has the planning of new infrastructure stalled, existing facilities have even been granted waivers from current legislation. The introduction of Goal Line Technology – a positive move – entailed costs that all the clubs could bear without any problems. Sadly, the same cannot be said of investment in safety and the latest technology in video surveillance which, with much lower costs, would greatly assist the work of the authorities in identifying the individuals behind the offences and would clearly reduce so-called ‘objective responsibility’, which after the recent events of April’s derby at the Stadio Olimpico in Turin, I would jokingly dub ‘inherent responsibility’ . Individual responsibility has now become of secondary importance and Italian football appears to have succumbed to this aberration. 三、場館、照顧弱勢族群、針對特例的概念沒能改革。不只是新的基礎建設停擺, 舊有的設施甚至從現行的得到豁免。門線科技(Goal Line Technology)這個正向進 展的費用應該是每支球隊都能順利負擔的;難過的是,安全方面的投資也是這樣, 即便現今監視科技費用既低廉也能給有關當局辨識做出攻擊行為的人士帶來極大幫 助,也能減輕所謂的舉證責任,就像在今年四月在都靈Olimpico球場的同城大戰, 所戲稱的固有責任。個人行為究責的重要性已經變得只是次要的,而義大利足球則 似乎已屈服於此謬誤。(註三) In conclusion, I believe it is only right we point out that the ability to engage in dialogue and enact reform in governance does not result from the impromptu wishes of a single club. This is a consolidated trend at the European level, thanks to the institutions’ ability to plan, particularly the European Club Association (ECA), but also UEFA. The clubs joining UEFA’s Executive Committee was a historically significant event, and also proves that well-structured institutions can evolve, considering those who invest human and financial resources in football and quite legitimately want to have their voice heard. It is an honour for me to represent the 220 clubs from 53 different football associations in this dialogue, along with president Rummenigge. Over the last 12 months, the ECA has reached common ground with European football’s governing body which led to the early signing of a new Memorandum of Understanding, valid until 2022. This agreement includes greater benefits for clubs, beginning with Euro 2020, and new mutuality between the Champions and Europa League. 總結來說,我相信我們所指出的,參與會談並制定改革並非只是單單一支球隊一時 興起的願望,由因於組織機構的規劃能力,尤其是歐洲足球會協會(European Club Association, ECA),還有UEFA,這是歐洲的趨勢。足球隊加入UEFA的執行委員會是 個歷史性的重大時刻,以投注人力與資金在足球並理所當然地希望其意見能被聽見 的群體來說,證明了組織良好的機構能進化。與身為ECA主席的Rummenigge一同代表 這個來自53個不同足協的220支球隊的組織,對我來說是個榮幸。這12個月以來ECA 已經與歐洲足球當局達成簽署2022年之前有效之諒解備忘錄的共識。此協議包含自 2020歐洲盃開始球隊利益的增加,以及歐洲冠軍聯賽與歐足總歐洲聯賽之間的互動 關係。(註四) Similar positive dialogue has begun with FIFA, but events which have recently come to light in the global media have slowed the process for the time being. 與FIFA也有開始類似的正向會談,但目前全球媒體矚目的焦點暫緩了會談過程。 A further demonstration of the fact that no institution can continue for too long to ignore calls for greater transparency and reform without the real risk of being overwhelmed. 這(上一段提到的FIFA)就是沒有組織機構能一直無視提高透明度訴求的例證,大破 才能大立。(註五) Fino Alla Fine... Andrea Agnelli --- 註一: 義大利球隊在U19的Primavera青年隊之上就是一軍了,沒配置二軍。其他國家地區 的作法是設置預備隊(reserve team)並且有專屬的預備隊聯賽,例如英格蘭,或是 像西班牙,B隊踢比一軍較低層級的賽事,例如西甲球隊的B隊踢西乙。 註二: 參加歐洲賽事(歐冠與歐聯)的球隊必須要達到UEFA所認可的條件,包括財務健康、 球場設施等等,例如上賽季第六名的Genoa就因為沒通過而由第七名的同城死敵 Sampdoria遞補參加歐聯附加淘汰賽。 註三: 因為上賽季都靈德比作客Torino主場Stadio Olimpico時發生暴力事件,當局認定有 Juventus支持者鬧事,印象中是施放爆竹,而處罰了Juventus包含暫時關閉南看台 與罰款。Juventus雖然認為這應該是個人行為,且球場安檢也有責任,但是該球場 的設施卻又不足以揪出真正的肇事者,最後就只能受罰,而滋事暴徒則逍遙法外。 註四: ECA的前身是2000年由14支歐洲球隊組成的G-14。Juventus主席Andrea Agnelli目前 是ECA執行委員會的成員,執行委員會的會長也就是ECA的會長是代表Bayern Munich 的Karl-Heinz Rummenigge。 註五: 顯然是指FIFA最近爆發的索賄與收賄弊案以及同時進行的改選,傳聞FIFA高層涉入 其中,包括長年擔任FIFA主席的Sepp Blatter。 -- 有些地方其實語意怪怪的,所以不一定能完全照字面,甚至少數幾處是去看義文版 查義文單字勉強揣摩拼湊的,只能希望沒有偏離太多... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.40.34.92 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Juventus/M.1443786095.A.26B.html

10/02 21:09, , 1F
感謝d大翻譯分享
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10/02 23:14, , 2F
這篇好難啊...看下來不是很確定他想表達什麼,是在預告後
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10/02 23:15, , 3F
續會有一些衝撞性的作為先幫股東打預防針嗎
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10/03 14:25, , 4F
前半段宣傳政績也是無可厚非啦,畢竟Juventus也不能算是
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10/03 14:26, , 5F
賺錢為最高目的的公司,每次看財報股東淨值都...XD
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10/03 14:26, , 6F
總是要給出錢的散戶一些安慰,但也可以看出高層對球隊
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10/03 14:28, , 7F
目前的戰績不滿意但也早有一定程度的心理準備。
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中後段就真的是在放話了,而且我覺得有些地方不大妥當。
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10/03 14:29, , 9F
雖然Agnelli提到的弊病與改革都很合理,但對於普遍不是
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10/03 14:30, , 10F
非常有錢的義大利球隊來說,建置B隊會是非常大的負擔,
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10/03 14:31, , 11F
現階段做法都是把年輕球員租到低級別聯賽隊伍,但也造成
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10/03 14:31, , 12F
低級別聯賽隊伍先發陣容往往超過一半甚至八成是租借軍團
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10/03 14:32, , 13F
基本上就是"沒錢有沒錢的玩法"這種概念。Goal Line Tech
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的問題,Agnelli號稱這應該是所有球隊都能無痛負擔的,
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10/03 14:33, , 15F
但實情是就算相對富裕的德國也有數支球隊因為費用問題而
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10/03 14:33, , 16F
不贊成引進Goal Line Tech。而且這牽扯到球場的基礎設施
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10/03 14:34, , 17F
真的就很難解,畢竟球場幾乎都是地方政府公有,施工改建
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10/03 14:35, , 18F
程序上就極為麻煩,而自蓋球場卻也不只是錢的問題,如果
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10/03 14:35, , 19F
沒有地方政府的支持,包括土地取得、變更土地用途、周邊
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10/03 14:36, , 20F
基礎設施(道路、大眾運輸等等)配套,根本玩不動,並不是
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10/03 14:36, , 21F
每支球隊都像Juventus錢夠多肯花政商關係良好,地方政府
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10/03 14:37, , 22F
也未必想放掉球場租金轉而支持球隊興建私有主場。
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10/03 14:40, , 23F
中間有說什麼非重要人物非投資者佔有過大權力,然後又說
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10/03 14:40, , 24F
缺乏把足球提升到重要政策的人,這不就是在放炮嗎?我說
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10/03 14:41, , 25F
在座各位都是垃圾啊XDDDD 後面宣傳他自己在ECA擔任要職
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10/03 14:42, , 26F
其實也頗為跋扈。對了這應該也可以看出Agnelli對Blatter
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10/03 14:42, , 27F
以及FIFA最近這案子的看法啦。
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10/03 14:43, , 28F
我的猜想可能要追溯到先前義甲聯賽主席改選的時候,當時
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10/03 14:44, , 29F
Juventus支持的候選人沒選上,而是由握有許多小球隊選票
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的義乙主席當選。敗選之後Agnelli也許是有嘗試拉近關係
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表達訴求,例如說他Ice Bucket Challenge就指定了新任的
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10/03 14:46, , 32F
義甲聯賽主席。但從這封號稱給股東的公開信看來,恐怕
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10/03 14:46, , 33F
沒有發生什麼作用。
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10/03 19:07, , 34F
二軍跟球場既視感超重,跟種花紙棒的問題一樣啊XDDD
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10/03 19:08, , 35F
二軍的部分我記得球團一直是希望能建預備隊去待在義乙,不
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過大概是會佔到乙級跟升乙球隊的缺一直推不動
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10/16 02:01, , 37F
補充一下另一個可能的衝突點:義甲聯賽也有自己的年輕化
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與青訓政策,例如這個賽季啟用的25人名單制度,裡面就要
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包含四位本隊青訓,除了這四位之外還要有再四位本國青訓
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10/16 02:03, , 40F
而21歲以下則不受此25人名單限制。但是對Juventus這種
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多線作戰的大球隊來說,一軍若沒有足夠多的青訓球員,
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而又沒有足夠多有實力在一軍立足的U21球員,就只能縮減
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球員名單人數,多線作戰就很吃緊了,更不用說Juventus的
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陣容年齡偏大,前幾個賽季的買人風格也比較偏向經驗豐富
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10/16 02:07, , 45F
而非穩定性、不確定性較高的年輕新秀,可以說是此政策的
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10/16 02:09, , 46F
受害者,是直接影響到球隊實力的。當然這並不能作為青訓
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不力的藉口,可是很現實地,這恐怕也是歐冠決賽後卻需要
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大幅度換血的原因之一。
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