Natt takes hard line on Kings' soft play

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http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/1677123.html 以下為新聞全文, 想看中文概要請按END With 20 games left, Kings coach Kenny Natt is taking the hard line with his team. The message after Thursday's practice: Not going hard will earn a trip to the soft chairs next to him on the bench. "From my standpoint, what I need to do is pull guys out of the game that don't want to play," said Natt, whose team's 117-109 loss to Indiana on Tuesday was its 19th defeat in the last 22 games. "Guys who don't play with effort, that's who I'll start pulling out of the game. I've made it very clear to them that that's where we're going from now on." Natt, who has spent much of his tenure juggling the desire to win with the realities of rebuilding and developing young players, said he must take a more "black and white" approach. "Even in a developing situation, you can't stay in a basketball game if (they're) not going to play," Natt said. "If you think that you're going to stay in the game (without playing hard), you're going to be sitting over there with me. That's what they have to understand." Natt's morning with his team began with a film session. Some of the clips, Natt said, showed "how bad, how awful, how horrible (the Kings) were defensively." Others, he added, showed "how good (the Kings) were." The next question, however, is how much different the film from Sunday's game against Denver will look. Natt, who isn't holding practice for the second day in three days today, said he would spend much of this rare break in the schedule contemplating a lineup change. "We have another couple of days here, and we'll see what happens with our lineup when we start on Sunday," he said. "This is an opportunity for guys to continue to work hard. We'll find out which guys are willing to work hard and listen and play within the system." When it comes to Bobby Jackson, it's no secret that he intends to be a coach when his playing days are over. And while the Kings guard said he found Natt's stance refreshing, he's not confident it will make a difference. "It's good to hear him say that," Jackson said. "Hopefully guys will start to turn around these last 19, 20-something games we've got. But it's been going this way all year, so I don't see anything changing. … All the games we've been playing in, it's been like that all year. He's going to have to do that if he wants to make a change." Jackson did, however, like the idea of taking the hard line of a different kind. "If we start fouling hard and limit all the layups and dunks and stuff like that, we'd be a pretty good team," he added. "But if we keep giving up all the layups we did against Indiana, the game will be a totally different game. "The proof is in the pudding. It's like I told the guys after the game, 'We ain't fooling ourselves. People see who's playing hard, and people see who ain't playing hard.' " The ultimate example of an unlikely benching, of course, would be one involving Kings shooting guard Kevin Martin. While he is the team's leading scorer at 24.1 points per game, he is also routinely the player targeted in opposing team's scouting reports as a weak defender. "As a player, you go by (Natt's) rules," he said when asked about the coach's new stance. "So you're not going to play if you don't play 'D.' I agree with him." The question of which injured Kings will be available to play remains in doubt, as point guard Beno Udrih remains day-to-day with a sprained right foot. Kings swingman Francisco Garcia practiced after suffering a non-displaced fracture on his right ring finger against Indiana and likely will play Sunday. ____ 概要: 1.總教練說剩下的20場比賽誰上場擺爛防守不力就去他旁邊坐板凳 2.Bobby Jackson說他很高興總教練這麼說, 但是他不抱期望, 因為球隊一整年防守都是這麼爛, 如果教練想改變不會現在才這樣做 3.KM,被認為是這項新政策執行程度的指標, 因為雖然他是球隊得分王, 卻是對手球探報告裡常提到的防守漏洞,他說總教練怎麼規定大家就怎麼遵守 4.Beno仍列入每日觀察名單, Cisco雖然無名指骨折, 裡拜一應該還是會出賽 5.新聞連結下面有很多球迷留言, 美國鄉民的水準不一定就比較高, 不過有些點到滿說到我心坎裡的, 大家可以看看有沒有人跟你想的一樣 -- -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 59.114.193.240

03/07 00:35, , 1F
Cisco有傷就好好養吧.... 反正我們不差這幾勝
03/07 00:35, 1F

03/07 01:24, , 2F
應該說~我們不要這幾勝...... 狀元魂!!!!!!!!
03/07 01:24, 2F

03/07 01:38, , 3F
2有股淡淡的哀傷
03/07 01:38, 3F

03/07 02:06, , 4F
Bobby明年不知道還會不會在國王...
03/07 02:06, 4F

03/07 04:15, , 5F
我希望小湯跟hawes每場都打35分鐘以上
03/07 04:15, 5F

03/07 04:20, , 6F
小湯有難度 XD
03/07 04:20, 6F

03/07 09:27, , 7F
小湯 會犯規這麼多 代表他防守積極 最要注意的事KM -.-
03/07 09:27, 7F

03/07 09:48, , 8F
關於小湯會犯這麼多規 除了因為前面的漏洞過大以外 他的
03/07 09:48, 8F

03/07 09:49, , 9F
個性也是很大的原因 他是那種寧願把你犯下來也不讓你得分
03/07 09:49, 9F

03/07 10:19, , 10F
小湯跟Cisco蠻像的 新人年犯規都很多 但經驗夠後 防守的
03/07 10:19, 10F

03/07 10:20, , 11F
效果會出來 Cisco節制犯規之後 他的防守能力就顯現出來
03/07 10:20, 11F

03/07 10:20, , 12F
我倒覺得如果馬丁還不能在這波比賽中提升防守能力的話
03/07 10:20, 12F

03/07 10:21, , 13F
選秀時把他交易到雷霆隊換來選Blake的籤也不是不好
03/07 10:21, 13F

03/07 10:22, , 14F
有謠言指出Rubio之所以有機會買斷是因為母隊有財務麻煩
03/07 10:22, 14F

03/07 10:24, , 15F
不過遭人駁斥XD但我懷疑老闆會願意選個要幫忙出買斷費的
03/07 10:24, 15F

03/07 10:24, , 16F
就目前如此省錢的方針來看 要老闆拿錢必須要有相當理由
03/07 10:24, 16F

03/07 10:25, , 17F
而且球團也已宣布明年國王的票價會降 應有新球館的消息
03/07 10:25, 17F

03/07 13:03, , 18F
現在才講這個我只希望激勵小馬丁的鬥志
03/07 13:03, 18F

03/07 13:22, , 19F
新球館已經差不多是定局了 所以應該不用太擔心球館的問題
03/07 13:22, 19F

03/07 13:23, , 20F
KM也要有覺悟了 看來光只是得分機器是不能讓大家開心的
03/07 13:23, 20F

03/07 13:23, , 21F
不過我倒是對Natt目前的發言有相當程度的懷疑 他剛接的時
03/07 13:23, 21F

03/07 13:23, , 22F
候就有說過了 結果到目前也沒什麼進展 就看這次大家都想
03/07 13:23, 22F

03/07 13:24, , 23F
要拚防守時(Noci也開炮了) 能不能讓KM認真看待防守
03/07 13:24, 23F

03/07 13:25, , 24F
所以很有可能KM會有再一年的觀察期 如果他還是沒有進步的
03/07 13:25, 24F

03/07 13:25, , 25F
話 很有可能會被換掉 你知我知獨眼龍也知國王防守不好
03/07 13:25, 25F

03/07 13:26, , 26F
所以防守不積極的一定是首當其衝被換掉
03/07 13:26, 26F

03/07 13:32, , 27F
我不認為教練講了這個會有啥改變,他只想表達他也很憤怒球
03/07 13:32, 27F

03/07 13:33, , 28F
隊現在防守這麼糟,這樣也只是證明他黔驢技窮罷了
03/07 13:33, 28F

03/07 15:28, , 29F
我是覺得現在教練牌子不夠大也快罩不住了 如果不拿幾個
03/07 15:28, 29F

03/07 15:29, , 30F
主力開刀可能防守永遠都是懶洋洋 而且球隊缺乏核心 找不
03/07 15:29, 30F

03/07 15:31, , 31F
到人帶動氣氛 如果選秀會同時出現R&B 趁K$高點交易出去
03/07 15:31, 31F

03/07 15:32, , 32F
目前打球有在防守的BJ Cisco JT No教練很明顯說給K$聽的
03/07 15:32, 32F

03/07 15:46, , 33F
對KM小失望很久了,季初說要擔當防守重任到現在...。
03/07 15:46, 33F

03/07 16:34, , 34F
用講的就有用的話,水貨狀元布朗和糖果人就不會淪落到現在
03/07 16:34, 34F

03/07 16:35, , 35F
這步田地了,他們也講過很多次要讓球迷耳目一新的話 XD
03/07 16:35, 35F

03/07 17:10, , 36F
我覺得Natt教練應該有能力帶防守,可是牌子不夠大球員不鳥
03/07 17:10, 36F

03/07 17:10, , 37F
尤其是小馬丁..
03/07 17:10, 37F

03/07 17:19, , 38F
現在要拿馬丁換前面順位應該也換不到
03/07 17:19, 38F

03/07 17:35, , 39F
現在說馬丁只是希望他能好好防守,應該還不到需要交易他吧
03/07 17:35, 39F

03/07 17:37, , 40F
Hamilton 6-7 193磅都可以防 KM 6-7 185磅應該沒道理不能防
03/07 17:37, 40F

03/07 18:42, , 41F
學吧 再給他一段時間 Hamilton在巫師時也是很嫩的
03/07 18:42, 41F

03/07 19:26, , 42F
感覺Hamilton有讓布朗爺帶過好像有差? 希望能找個好的
03/07 19:26, 42F

03/07 19:26, , 43F
防守教練來帶帶KM 不然真的很可惜......
03/07 19:26, 43F

03/07 20:57, , 44F
如果我們選到Rubio,雷霆選到Blake或HT,倒是可以考慮把K$
03/07 20:57, 44F

03/07 20:59, , 45F
跟Beno拿去跟雷霆換Collison&Watson&filler Collison的
03/07 20:59, 45F

03/07 21:02, , 46F
防守和苦力是國王需要的湊齊柯林森 JT No Cisco Rubio後
03/07 21:02, 46F

03/07 21:03, , 47F
整個先發的防守看起來就有點樣子了 整體從質來改變球隊
03/07 21:03, 47F

03/07 21:16, , 48F
如果真的這麼做 後場等於又是重組一次了 那KM又白養了
03/07 21:16, 48F

03/07 21:58, , 49F
KM或許不是第一人的料,但他還是一個相當出色的得分後衛
03/07 21:58, 49F

03/07 22:00, , 50F
可以把他想成R.Lewis或是R.Allen,有了強力的內線支援,他
03/07 22:00, 50F

03/07 22:00, , 51F
依然是聯盟不可小看的球星,送走甚至交易P大說的球員都浪費
03/07 22:00, 51F

03/07 22:56, , 52F
現在我想的到跟KM比較像的是雷霆王耶 XD
03/07 22:56, 52F

03/07 22:58, , 53F
都是很會得分的射手 防守不太行...
03/07 22:58, 53F

03/07 22:59, , 54F
真的要趕快練一下KM的防守了 趁他還年輕...
03/07 22:59, 54F

03/07 23:26, , 55F
持續不看好KM,總覺得只能是得分手,不會是王牌
03/07 23:26, 55F

03/08 00:30, , 56F
還有一個辦法就是場上的其他四個防守等級提高,馬丁的洞會
03/08 00:30, 56F

03/08 00:31, , 57F
比較不明顯,就像 Peja Bibby 一樣, JT 小賈 NO 都算肯防
03/08 00:31, 57F

03/08 00:32, , 58F
,也都有機會再進步,或許會比馬丁早練出來
03/08 00:32, 58F

03/08 00:44, , 59F
國王來走76人模式好了XD 四個苦工+一個得分王 ...
03/08 00:44, 59F

03/08 01:07, , 60F
我覺得76人模式不太可行 因為K$並不是頂級得分SG 應該走
03/08 01:07, 60F

03/08 01:08, , 61F
團隊模式 每個點防守都不會太差 然後得分散在每個人身上
03/08 01:08, 61F

03/08 01:11, , 62F
如果交易K$可以讓五個點防守都有一定水平的話那是值得的
03/08 01:11, 62F

03/08 01:13, , 63F
未來如果願意而且有機會賭在JT&Rubio身上的話 應該加強
03/08 01:13, 63F

03/08 01:15, , 64F
的是整體防守質量Rubio/Garcia的組合仿造Nash/Bell 如果
03/08 01:15, 64F

03/08 01:17, , 65F
2010能搶到JJ的話他才是我心中較理想的franchise player
03/08 01:17, 65F

03/08 01:21, , 66F
如果我們能在2010時打造比老鷹更好的陣容虛位以待JJ我相
03/08 01:21, 66F

03/08 01:22, , 67F
秋江嬸打 SG 破壞力很夠 只是不知他幾歲了?
03/08 01:22, 67F

03/08 01:23, , 68F
信重返榮耀是可能的與其等待K$變成基石不如打造副將環境
03/08 01:23, 68F

03/08 01:23, , 69F
其實RMC 打得出來的話 加上小賈也能打SG 馬丁的重要性會更
03/08 01:23, 69F

03/08 01:23, , 70F
減少
03/08 01:23, 70F

03/08 01:25, , 71F
我不是看不起K$但從他的質你就可預期他絕不會是基石球員
03/08 01:25, 71F

03/08 01:27, , 72F
老鷹今年如果無法留下BB 對JJ而言國王的陣容不會比較差
03/08 01:27, 72F

03/08 01:28, , 73F
國王也應該要務實一點 2010年LBJ那幾隻超大牌根本不可能
03/08 01:28, 73F

03/08 01:28, , 74F
JJ快28
03/08 01:28, 74F

03/08 01:36, , 75F
我還是很喜歡KM,年輕又便宜,真希望明年是他的年。
03/08 01:36, 75F

03/08 01:37, , 76F
剛剛猛然驚覺KM的命中率掉到.418...。
03/08 01:37, 76F

03/08 01:40, , 77F
老實說我也想要小馬丁被換走...
03/08 01:40, 77F

03/08 01:40, , 78F
他沒辦法運用他的得分能力去吸引包夾 替隊友創造機會
03/08 01:40, 78F

03/08 01:41, , 79F
而且防守又不好
03/08 01:41, 79F

03/08 02:17, , 80F
要說的各位都說完了 只能推 K$...今年太讓人失望了
03/08 02:17, 80F

03/08 08:21, , 81F
先等選到Rubio再說吧 orz
03/08 08:21, 81F

03/08 11:58, , 82F
KM最好的定位應該是定位在球隊第二得分手,由一個能吸引包夾
03/08 11:58, 82F

03/08 12:00, , 83F
球員為主,KM才能發揮的更有效率,感覺把責任都給KM不好。
03/08 12:00, 83F

03/08 12:00, , 84F
恩 我也覺得把責任全由KM扛並不恰當 他是很棒的第二人
03/08 12:00, 84F

03/08 12:01, , 85F
只要有人在前進帶他 他絕對可以打得很棒
03/08 12:01, 85F

03/08 12:04, , 86F
他的防守不是不行 而是沒有用心 只要有個人鞭他就可以了
03/08 12:04, 86F

03/08 14:04, , 87F
樓上說的也是~不過很可惜目前他的定位就是一哥
03/08 14:04, 87F

03/08 14:06, , 88F
當年黃金世代後期 他替補 跑位得分助攻都很融入團隊 防守
03/08 14:06, 88F

03/08 14:07, , 89F
壓力也小 就是因為有一群老大哥在場上罩著
03/08 14:07, 89F

03/08 14:50, , 90F
就算這樣也不需要把他換走 弄個一哥來就好
03/08 14:50, 90F

03/08 14:50, , 91F
巫師作弊....現在我們只領先半場....
03/08 14:50, 91F

03/08 15:52, , 92F
問題是要怎麼弄來一哥呢?在弄來一哥前K$就是一哥!等到
03/08 15:52, 92F

03/08 15:55, , 93F
要搶一哥時會不會國王已經被二哥帶成爛到一哥不想來呢?
03/08 15:55, 93F

03/08 15:57, , 94F
K$問題在他並沒打得像在掙扎的二哥像在支援攻防苦撐的人
03/08 15:57, 94F

03/08 15:58, , 95F
反倒打得像是爛隊中得分最高的球員就像KG之前對勇士小麥
03/08 15:58, 95F

03/08 16:00, , 96F
所說的:Get your number!儘管去刷數據吧!但帶動不了隊友
03/08 16:00, 96F
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