The Not-so-Asinine Trade Post (西北區)

看板Kings (沙加緬度國王)作者simonwu (人生就像乘船)時間16年前 (2010/01/29 12:25)推噓14(14推 0噓 9→)

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orthwest Division: Source: Andrew Feinstein, Co-Manager of Denver Stiffs Nuggets Team Needs: "The Nuggets need more size upfront in the form of a legitimate starting center or at least a solid backup center that would enable Nene to play more power forward. The Nuggets only play three "big men", and our two centers - Nene and Chris Andersen - are a bit undersized for the position while our power forward - Kenyon Martin - is undersized at power forward. If Nene could play more power forward, he'd be the second coming of Calvin Natt circa 1985." 需求：金塊需要更多大型的前場，合格的先發中鋒或至少是夠硬的替補能夠讓Nene多打大前鋒金塊前場只有三個人的輪替而我們兩位中鋒 Nene和鳥人都有undersized的問題然而大前鋒Martin同樣是undersize的大前鋒如果Nene能打到大前鋒那麼他將會是第二個 Calvin Natt Who Would you Want: "Jason Thompson and Jon Brockman. If Thompson were the Nuggets starting center, we'd be the best team in the Western Conference. No doubt in my mind. Brockman, on the other hand, fits my "second round draft pick power forward theory" to a tee: i.e. smart teams draft "undersized" power forwards who were awesome in college in the second round and often reap the benefits. In this year's draft, Brockman and DeJuan Blair are further proof of my theory, just as Paul Millsap, Leon Powe, Carlos Boozer and countless others have been in the past." 想要的國王球員：JT和Brockman，如果JT是金塊的先發中鋒那麼我們就會是西區最好的球隊另一方面Brockman正好符合我們的"二輪籤大前鋒理論 (這是?)" 例如：聰明的球隊用第二輪來選undersized並且在大學有非常好的表現的大前鋒這樣的二輪籤通常都是物超所值的在今年的的選秀Brockman和Blair都是本理論的最佳證明，就像八百萬、Leon Powe、Boooooo和數不完的其他例子都是 My Analysis: The Nuggets have a pretty good roster, but not very many people that I'd like. I love Nene and think he's one of the more underrated players in the league, but the Nuggets aren't letting him go unless its for an upgrade, which the Kings don't have. In fact, all the Nuggets I like are probably not going to be traded. Johan Petro is a guy the Kings might like though, and maybe Ime could be swapped for him. Ime's better than Afflalo in my opinion. 分析：金塊有很多很好的球員，但喜歡的卻不多我喜歡Nene，他是聯盟中被低估的球員之一但是除非他的位子得到更好的球員否則金塊不會放他，然而國王沒有這樣的球員說實在的，所有我愛的金塊球員都不太可能被他們交易 Johan Petro可能是國王可能喜歡的，但是可能得出到南哥，另外我認為南哥比Affalo要來的優 Likelihood of a trade between us: Not good. There just aren't any realistic trades. Here's what Andrew has to say on the matter: "I don't see a realistic trade between our two teams. The Kings have some good things going for them that they won't part with, and the Nuggets aren't taking back any of your bad contracts." 可能的交易：不太好，沒有任何可行的交易國王有些好物是不可能被放在交易當中的，然而金塊也不會想要任何一張不好的合約。 Timberwolves Source: Zach Harper, Long Time Timberwolves Fan and Writer for Cowbell Kingdom Team Needs: "The Wolves have no scoring. I mean, they have NO scoring. If Jonny Flynn is off you can guarantee they aren't outscoring the other team. Their biggest need is outside shooting. They would kill for guys like Casspi and Greene because they would stretch the floor and slow teams from double-teaming Al Jefferson so quickly. They also need defensive help inside. You can't play Love and Jefferson together and expect them to get any stops. As much as we all love Ryan Hollins and consider him to be the next Olajuwon, they have nothing to stop players in the paint." 需求：灰狼沒有得分手。我的意思是他們不會得分。如果Flynn下場後你可以保證他們不可能比敵對得更多分。他們最大的需求就是外圍的射手他們會被卡卡和綠尼這樣的球員吸引，因為他們可以擴大對手的防守範圍迫使他們不能太快包夾Big Al 他們也需要禁區的防守協助，你無法讓Love和Al一起在場上時期待他們送出任何封蓋。儘管我們都喜愛Ryan Hollins並認為他是下一個Olajuwon，但是他們還是沒辦法在禁區檔下分數。 Who Would You Want: "I think the Wolves could definitely use Dont? Greene and Kevin Martin the most. They need to stretch the defense and give Flynn someone to play off of other than Corey Brewer." 想要的國王球員："我認為灰狼絕對可以把綠尼和K$使用的最好他們必須分散防守的注意力，讓Flynn可以和Brewer之外的球員一起合作 My Analysis: Reading up on the Timberwolves blog, I see parallels between Kings and Wolves fans. Both fans have a growing number of people who are becoming disillusioned with their former star in favor of the new kid on the block (Kevin Martin and Tyreke Evans in Sac, Al Jefferson and Kevin Love in Minnesota). The difference to me is, while Martin and Tyreke's games actually complement each others, Love's and Jefferson's do not. Now would Jefferson be an upgrade to our frontcourt? Yes. But long term, I think it would simply settle us into mediocrity and not anything special. Zach thinks that Kevin Martin and Spencer Hawes could be a realistic deal for Big Al, and even though it looks like an improvement to some people, I'm not completely sure. I would be sort of ambivalent about such a trade until I saw how it worked out. As for other players on the Timberwolves roster, I want no part in any of it. Flynn is nice, but we have Tyreke. T-Wolves aren't trading Love. Everyone else is pretty much garbage, although I liked Sessions during the summer, but he does what Tyreke does, just not as well. 分析：讀了灰狼的部落格，我發現他的球迷和國王迷的相似之處他們的數量都逐漸的成長，同時正從前球星的影子中走出來而逐漸愛上隊上的年輕組合(K$、Evans和Al、LOVE) 對我而言，不同之處在於當K$和Evans的比賽表現出競爭 (互斥) 效應的時候，Al和Love的組合並沒有那麼Al是不是能夠增強我們的前場戰力呢?答案是肯定的但是長期來講，將很容易使我們逐漸流於平庸、平淡提出K$+Hawes的包裹應該能讓我們得到Al，儘管這對某些人來說是有些幫助的但我則不這麼肯定。我會覺得矛盾直到這組合真的打出來的那天至於灰狼的其他球員，我對他們都不感興趣。Flynn很棒但我們已經有了Evans 灰狼不會交易Love，其他人就有點... 去年夏天我曾經很喜歡 Sessions，但他能做的Evans都可以完成，所以也不那麼需要了。 Likelihood of a trade between us: It depends on what you think of Minnesota shopping Jefferson (evidenced by the Granger denial), and the Kings saying they would only part with Martin for an All-Star caliber big man. Also, Noc could fill a need for them and we could trade him there for expirings. They'd at least have someone who could hit a 3 and score the ball. Even though I'm not sure if I'm for or against it, I think its a possibility that Petrie and Kahn have talked and will talk more about Martin for Jefferson. We shall see. 可能的交易：這要看你認為灰狼銷售Al的這個動作代表甚麼? 國王已經聲明除非有明星級的大個子，才會考慮將K$放入交易名單同時Noc可能能填補他們的需要，我們可以用他來換取到期約，這樣他們至少能夠弄到可以砍三分並且得分的人我認為兩邊的總管可能已經討論過K$單換Al的交易儘管我不確定是不是該支持這樣的做法。雷霆 Source: Zorgon, Manager of Welcome to Loud City Team Needs: "Right now, most people's immediate concern is for a Center that can provide a big defensive presence, since Nenad Krstic is completely soft, Nick Collison is only of average talent, and Serge Ibaka is a big question mark. Another helpful talent would be getting a good shooter, which this team is almost completely devoid of. We mostly have players who drive to the hoop. Other than that, I wouldn't mind swapping Jeff Green for a true Power Forward, since he struggles against the bigger men in the game offensively." 需求：目前多數人會想到的便是「中鋒」，能夠提供大個子防守的人由於Krstic非常的軟，Collison的天分普通，Ibaka是個大問號另一個希望是一位優質的射手，因為我們大多數的球員都能夠切入取分除此之外，我會考慮交易Green換回一個真正的大前鋒，因為當面對真正的大個子的時候他的進攻便有點不知所措。 Who Would You Want: "Omri Casspi would be appealing, simply because he's a good shooter. He could come off the bench and provide a dynamic to our offense that we don't have at our current state of development. I'd also like to have Spencer Hawes, because he's pretty much what Nenad Krstic should and can be. He shoots from mid range and the perimeter, while not being completely useless on defense and rebounding (Aykis' Note: I think some Kings fans would disagree with you there Zorgon), like Nenad is." 想要的國王球員：卡卡很吸引人，就因為他是一位優質的射手。他能夠從板凳出發對我們的進攻提供目前隊上所沒有改變。我也想要得到 Hawes 因為他遠超過Krstic能夠達到的水平，他能從中距離、外線投射，同時在籃板和防守端也不是完全的沒有作用。 My Analysis: The Thunder are much like the Kings, although they're thriving with their defense, not offense. You would think Durant, Westbrook and Green are pretty much untouchable, although if you had to pick one of those to make available, you'd think it'd be Green. Otherwise there are a couple guys I like off their roster. Serge Ibaka is a young, tough forward who sees limited time, but is a good shotblocker and rebounder, two things the Kings need very much. Thabo Sefolosha to me is the 2nd coming of Doug Christie. 分析：雷霆和國王更加地類似，雖然他們靠著防守，而不是進攻正在向上提升你會認為雷帝，Westbrook和Green是根本不會動到的，但如果硬是要選一個那麼應該是Green。除此之外，有幾個球員似乎已離開了他們的輪替表 Ibaka是一個年輕，夠硬的前鋒，上場時間受到限制，但是仍然是個很好的封蓋和籃板手這兩個都是國王迫切需要的 Sefolosha對我而言，就是即將變身的Christie 2號。 Likelihood of a trade between us: Probably not very likely. The Thunder are making a steady playoff push and relying on their defense to do it. They only have $39.5 Million in salary on the books next year, with none of the guys that are coming off seen as integral parts of the team. The Thunder could go out and pay a guy like Brendan Haywood while continuing to develop BJ Mullens and grow their team internally. Its a strategy I hope the Kings employ, because it seems like in the two most recent instances where its been tried (Portland and OKC) its worked. 可能的交易：發生的可能性不高。雷霆正準備靠著他們的防守衝擊季後賽明年他們一共只有39.5Million的薪資總合，核心的成員沒有一位要離開在自由市場上，雷霆可能對Haywood直接出手，來協助BJ Mullens的發展並且壯大他們的禁區。這是一個我希望國王能夠採取的策略因為已經有兩個球隊嚐試並成功了 (阿拓和雷霆)。阿拓 Source: Ben Golliver, Co-Manager of Blazers Edge Team Needs: Bigs. Healthy Bigs. Young, Healthy Bigs. Cheap, Young, Healthy Bigs. 需求：大個子，健康的大個子，年輕、健康的大個子，便宜年輕健康的大個子。 Who Would You Want: "If you're taking Reke out of the equation the three guys the Blazers would be interested in are Hawes, JT and Brockman and I think those are three pieces the Kings would be very reluctant to move." 想要的國王球員：除掉Evans，三個阿拓想要的就是Hawes、JT和Brockman 這三個是我認為國王最不願意動到的人。 My Analysis: The Blazers really don't have anyone that would interest me and could possibly be available. I was quite intrigued by Fernandez last year, but Omri is pretty much doing what he's doing, I liked Sergio, now he's a King, and Przybilla, who I think is very underrated, doesn't exactly have a clean bill of health at the moment. The Blazers almost have as bad a glut of wings as the Kings do, so those guys are pretty much out of the equation as well. And just say no to Andre Miller. 分析：目前能動的人當中，阿拓並沒有任何吸引我的人手去年我深深的被Fernandez給吸引，但是卡卡能做他會做的事我喜歡Sergio，他也已經是國王人了那麼大P，我認為最被低估的人，他的健康也令人存疑阿拓的搖擺人塞車情形和國王不相上下，所以也不用討論了最後只要和Miller說不就對了。 Likelihood of a trade between us: Ben says it best, "Maybe you could find a swap of expiring contracts or 2nd round picks but I'm not sure there's a fit anywhere past that." There isn't anything concrete here. 可能的交易：可能妳會發現關於到期約還有二輪籤的交易，但我不確定有這麼作的空間連八字都還沒一撇。爵士 Source: Basketball John, Manager of SLC Dunk Team Needs: "It seems like the needs of the Jazz change all the time. We're set at PG, so scratch that. The backups are questionable there though. We don't need a PF as we already have Boozer in place for right now. If he goes, and that's looking like a bigger if every day, we have Millsap behind him. We have a glut at the wing position right now with CJ Miles, Ronnie Brewer, Kyle Korver, Wesley Matthews, AK-47. What we need though is probably another scorer and a big man - at least a big man that Jerry Sloan will play." 球隊需求：爵士的需求似乎不斷的在改變。我們的控球固定了，但是替補則有所疑問大前鋒上面已經有了Boooo，如果他離開，後面還有八百萬等著… 我們還有一大票的搖擺人….. 需要的可能是另一個得分手和大個子─但前提是是Sloan肯用的大個子。 Who Would You Want: "The Jazz do need another offensive threat and Martin would fit the bill. But his defense is suspect at best and that's been the focus of the Jazz this year. A Deron Williams and Kevin Martin back-court is enticing though." 想要的國王球員：爵士的確需要其他的進攻威脅，而K$絕對可以填補這個空缺但是他的防守令人懷疑，而這點正是爵士今年的焦點儘管如此，蝶龍加上K$的後場組合仍然是令人非常興奮的。 My Analysis: The Jazz have quite a few people I'm interested in. I've always liked Kirilenko (not his contract though) and Kyrylo Fesenko is a nice, young, cheap big with upside. Their other young big, Koufos, I don't like, because he thinks he's Mehmet Okur, and he's not even close to being Spencer Hawes. The Jazz are above the luxury tax, and they would need to clear about $5 million from their books if they didn't want to pay the tax. Getting rid of Kirilenko's contract would be hard to do, but I think they would do it if they could. 分析：爵士有很多球員是我感興趣的。我曾經很喜歡AK (他的約除外) Fesenko是個很棒、年情、又便宜 (還有身高優勢) 的大柱子另外一位年輕人 Koufos我並不欣賞，因為他把自己當成Okur 事實上他連Hawes都沾不上邊 (好慘…) 爵士已經超出了豪華稅門檻，同時他們還需要清掉大約5百萬，如果不想再繳豪華稅的話清掉AK的約非常不容易，但我想如果可以他們會這麼做的。 Likelihood of a trade between us: I think its possible. The Kings could be interested in 3 things: AK47, Fesenko, and NY's draft pick. John brings up one of Bill Simmons Fake Trades: "Martin/Thomas to Utah for Andrei Kirilenko (expires in 2011), Kyle Korver's EC, $3 million (not a problem because Utah still saves $3.2 million with the difference in salaries, plus another $3.2 million in luxury-tax money) and the rights to New York's unprotected first-round pick in 2010." It's one of the better offers for Kevin, and if you think about it, that would give the Kings the potential to draft a big and a guard in the lottery next year (I know NY is only 1.5 games out of the 8th spot, but I don't see them beating out Chicago or Milwaukee). Guys like Willie Warren or Xavier Henry would be available and we know how good Petrie is at sniffing out talent. We'll see what happens here. 可能的交易：我認為是有可能的。國王可能感興趣的地方有三：1.AK47、2.Fesenko 3.今年紐約的選秀權。John提出Bill Simmons的模擬交易「K$+KT for AK47(明年到期)+ Korver(到期約)+3million (爵士不會拒絕因為他們能夠藉這個動作省下原本的3.2M 還有原本豪華稅該付出的3.2M) 和紐約今年的第一輪」，這是我們能用K$換來不錯的東西考慮一下，今年夏天國王能夠從樂透區內選進一個大個子，一個後衛 (我知道NY目前離第八只有1.5場，但我並不認為他們能打得比公牛或是公鹿更好) 可以選到Willie Warren或是Xavier Henry 我們都知道Petrie對於發掘天份有多在行，我們可以等著瞧會發生甚麼事。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.81.51 ※ 編輯: simonwu 來自: 140.112.81.51 (01/29 12:27)

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