The Not-so-Asinine Trade Post (中央組)

看板Kings (沙加緬度國王)作者felmizan (飛鳶)時間16年前 (2010/01/29 22:14)推噓13(13推 0噓 5→)

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Chicago Bulls Source: Stormin' Norman Disciple of Pippen Aint Easy and Not Qualified to Comment Team Needs: "As has been much publicized, the Bulls biggest obvious need is a scoring big man since they are so reliant on the mid-range jumper. The other need that I have spoken about constantly on NQTC is a big guard that can shoot the 3. No one can score from 3-point land on the Bulls right now (and don't say Salmons, he's not the same Salmons as last year)." 需求：公牛需要的是一個能擅長中距離得分的人；再來是會投三分的後衛(NQTC不知道是指什麼)。目前公牛沒有人會投三分，而且鮭魚也不是去年的那條鮭魚了。 Who Would You Want: "Kevin Martin and Andres Nocioni. I know Noce isn't hitting 3s as much this season, but even his bad % would be great for the Bulls." 想要的國王球員：小馬丁和酒駕。雖然酒駕今年三分投得不多，但他的命中率對公牛也夠用了。 My Analysis: The Bulls have one guy I am very interested in: Tyrus Thomas. Thomas is a very athletic, young PF, with great shotblocking ability and decent rebounding. He hasn't yet played with any consistency, but Chicago has been very down on him, and are reportedly willing to shop him. Perhaps Noce and Beno could be given for Tyrus and Kirk, but Kirk's salary is quite ridiculous for someone who really isn't that good. The Kings could definitely use Noah, but he's probably untouchable. 分析：我對公牛的Tyrus Thomas很有興趣。T. Thomas是一個健壯年輕的PF，火鍋能力很好、籃板還不錯。 Likelihood of a trade between us: It's possible, especially if the rumors of the Bulls still liking Nocioni are true. The thing about a trade with Chicago though is that someone is going to have to take on a bad contract. Chicago doesn't want to ruin too much of its cap space for next year. I think the Kings will definitely take a long look at Tyrus and see if trying to make a deal for him is worth it. Other than Tyrus though, there's nobody that the Bulls might be willing to deal that the Kings might want. 可能的交易方案：這蠻有可能發生的，特別是如果公牛對酒駕有興趣的乳摸是真的的話。和公牛交易的話有人就必須吃下爛約。公牛不太可能破壞他們明年的薪資空間，我想國王可能會好好的觀察T. Thomas並評估值不值得。除了T. Thomas，沒有國王想要而公牛願意給的。 Cavaliers Source: John Bena, Manager of Fear the Sword Team Needs: " If the Cavaliers have needs it seems they change on a day-to-day basis. A week ago I would have said the Cavaliers need a PF that could score and stretch defenses out of the lane to give LeBron more room to do what he does attacking the basket. Then Mo Williams and Delonte West got hurt. That leaves the back-court of the Cavaliers incredibly weak. The Cavs are now 3-0 without Williams, 2-0 without West, including wins over the Lakers, Thunder and Heat. The Cavs look like they are going to try and get through it, but fans should suspect down-to-the-wire games like we saw against the Heat until the Cavs get healthier." 需求：一星期以前我認為騎士需要一個PF，能得分、能拉大對手防守圈好讓LBJ有空間切入。但是後來Mo和Delonte West受傷，這讓後場變得異常地弱。騎士在沒有Mo的時候3-0 ，沒有West的時候2-0，包括贏了湖人、雷霆、熱火。騎士看起來在調整好度過這段時期，但是球迷在全員到齊前就只能看到比數咬得很緊的比賽了。 Who Would You Want: "Right now, only one player peaks my interest - Kevin Martin. Martin would supply the Cavaliers another scoring threat, something they can never have enough of. Bringing in Martin would take further pressure off LeBron and would allow James to work more from the post where he is really unstoppable, if he really focused on staying down there." 想要的國王球員：目前看來只有馬丁，馬丁可以為騎士提供前所未有的進攻威脅。而且還能吸引LBJ留下來。 My Analysis: The Cavaliers are only going to focus on trades that will help them win a championship, and perhaps not even then, as they're currently on pace to finish with the best record in the league again. But whatever trade they do would have to be a talent upgrade for them. They would love to have Kevin Martin, but there isn't anyone on the Cavs roster other than James that is better than Martin. They could perhaps be interested in Nocioni as a stretch 4, but I doubt it. Too much long-term salary for someone who isn't nearly as good of an option as Troy Murphy or Antawn Jamison. Now there are a couple of people I like on the Cavs: JJ Hickson, and Leon Powe. The thing about a Hickson is he's a good scorer, but lacks enough defending and rebounding, and Powe is coming back from another huge injury and won't be available to play till February. 分析：騎士在尋求可以協助他們奪冠的人，或是創下聯盟最佳戰績。和他們的交易一定要有天分提升，他們要馬丁，但是他們能超越馬丁的只有LBJ。騎士可能會想要酒駕，但我很懷疑。太多其他的長約比酒駕更好，比方說Troy Murphy or Antawn Jamison。我對騎士的JJ Hickson, and Leon Powe比較有興趣。Hickson是一個得分好手，但防守和籃板不好；Powe因傷的問題到二月以前都不能打。 Likelihood of a trade between us: Very, very unlikely. The Cavs might be willing to throw a Powe or Jawad Williams for Sergio, but I don't see why the Kings would do it when there would likely be other better options. Kevin Martin would be perfect on Cleveland next to James, but the Cavs would definitely need other teams to be involved since they have nobody the Kings would want for Martin. The Cavs are focused on a Championship now so they can convince LeBron to stay. Martin is pretty much the only player on the roster that would help them do that, and he's not going to Cleveland. 可能的交易方案：非常不可能。騎士會想用Powe和Jawad Williams換SROD，不過在沒有更好的提案下，我想不出國王為什麼要換。馬丁在騎士是僅次於LBJ的人。騎士可能要找第三隊加入吧，不然他們沒有我們值得換馬丁的人。騎士想要問鼎冠軍好讓LBJ留下來，馬丁大概是騎士陣營中唯一一個可以幫到這件事的人，而他不會去克里夫蘭。 Pistons Source: Brian Packey, Co-Manager of Detroit Bad Boys Team Needs: "Some Pistons fans think the team needs a true point guard because Rodney Stuckey is not the guy, but I think that's still up in the air. What this team really needs, and I think all Pistons fans can agree on this, is a big man that can score and match up with the other bigs, like KG and Dwight Howard. Charlie Villanueva, somewhat surprisingly, is very efficient in the post, but he's a stretch forward like Rasheed Wallace was. Ben Wallace can defend with the best of them, but he's not a scorer and he won't be around much longer." 需求：活塞球迷認為他們需要一個真正的控球後衛，因為Stuckey並不是。但我想一切還沒決定。這個球隊需要而球員願意的，只有能像KG、Howard那樣能得分能防守的大個子。 Villanueva很意外的在未來很有效，但他是一個中長距離的前鋒，像溪蛙一樣。班蛙可以防守，但他不會進攻，而且他也不可能待太久。 Who Would You Want: "You sure we can't have Evans? First guy that gets my attention is Spencer Hawes. He's young, he can score (from all over, too), and maybe most important, he's a seven footer. He kind of reminds me of Mehmet Okur, who coincidentally the Pistons had when they won the 'ship in 2004. Other than Evans and Hawes, I'd love to have Kevin Martin (who I had the pleasure of seeing play all the way back when he was at Western Carolina), but that's just not feasible considering the Pistons have more than enough guards as is. Casspi is another guy that has brought up on our site as a guy the Pistons maybe shouldn't have passed on in the first round. Despite the numbers being in favor of Casspi, I don't know if I would make the trade-off." 想要的國王球員：你確定我們不能有Evans？首先我想到的是小屁孩，他年輕、他可以得分、而且最重要的，他七呎(XDD)。他讓我想起Okur，他在活塞奪冠時正好在隊中。除了 Evans和小屁孩，我想要馬丁。但那是一個不可行的想法，因為活塞的後衛多到滿出來。小卡是另一個可能，他是那種活塞第一輪不會放過的球員。僅管很多人支持換小卡，但我不確定是否會施行。 My Analysis: The Pistons probably want to get rid of at least one, if not both, of the combo of Rip Hamilton/Tayshaun Prince. Both those guys are eating up a lot of cap space, play the same position as new member Ben Gordon, and are on the downswing of the careers. I also don't want the Kings anywhere near those guys. Maxiell looks like he could be what we need on paper, but honestly he's not a starter quality player and yet he makes $5 million a year for 3 more years. The only guy I could see the Kings trying to make a move for in my opinion? Kwame Brown. Yes, he's a bust, but right now he's a cheap center who is a good defensive rebounder and decent interior defender. 分析：活塞想丟掉Rip和小王子中至少一個，兩個更好。這兩個都開始吃薪資空間了，表現也下滑了，而且同個位置還有Ben Gordon。我也不覺得國王會要這樣的球員。Maxiell 看起來是我們需要的球員，但他不是一個好先發，而且接下來三分還要吃掉五百萬。唯一可能的是Kwame Brown。雖然沒有很強，但他是一個便宜的中鋒，有好的防守籃板和內線防守。 Likelihood of a trade between us: Not good. If the Kings did want to acquire Brown, all it would take would be Hilton Armstrong, thanks to the 125% rule and it would save the Pistons a little bit of money, which could be something they're looking for, since reports are that the team is for sale. Other than that though, I don't see the Kings wanting any of the Pistons big contracts, and I don't see the Pistons willing to give up any of their young, cheap guys. 可能的交易方案：沒什麼好選擇，但如果國王要誇米，那可能要出到阿姆斯壯，而125%的規則可以幫活塞省到一點錢，自從活塞打算賣球隊後，他們就對這些事很感興趣。我看不出國王會想要活塞的大約，而活塞也不可能放棄他們的年輕便宜球員。 Pacers Source: Tom Lewis, Manager of Indy Cornrows Team Needs: "Need assets in the form of young talent, expiring money for cap space or draft picks. The Pacers have big contracts in Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, Jeff Foster, T.J. Ford and Jamaal Tinsley that all come off the books after the 2010-11 season so all of those players are available (not Tinsley obviously, but the rest) for the right deal." 需求：溜馬需要一些年輕的天分、到期約和選透權。目前Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, Jeff Foster, T.J. Ford and Jamaal Tinsley身上都有大約，但都在2010-11結束，所以這些人都可以交易。 Who Would You Want: "Two Kings I'd like to see the Pacers acquire and why: 1. Kenny Thomas for his $8.7 millions expiring contract 2. Kevin Martin - Danny Granger needs another consitent scoring option to run alongside and the Pacers have done well in the past with shooting guards with a strange release. Also, Martin always seems to light it up at Conseco Fieldhouse so why not try it for 41 games." 想要的國王球員：KT，因為他的到期約；馬丁，因為妙麗需要一個幫手。同時馬丁也能替 Conseco Fieldhouse增添光彩。 My Analysis: Danny Granger is possibly my favorite player in the league who hasn't donned a Kings jersey. I would love a Martin for Granger swap, but Larry Bird would hang up the phone almost immediately. Troy Murphy would actually be a big help for the Kings, since he can hit his shots and is an absolutely phenomenal defensive rebounder, and not a bad defender either, although he doesn't block shots. K-9 for Murphy would work, but the Cavs could and probably would outbid us. We all know how underrated a rebounder Jeff Foster is as well, and I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Kings Uni if we could unload Noc for him, but the Pacers aren't looking to add money. I don't want to be anywhere near Dunleavy or Ford, both players who don't really deserve their contracts. Tom thinks that Ford could work well next to Evans, but I'd rather have Kevin Martin any day of the week. Hibbert and Hansbrough are nice young pieces, but the Kings could have had Hibbert if they wanted and stuck with JT instead. Hibbert is also probably considered untouchable by Bird unless something blows him over. 分析：妙麗是我在聯盟中除了國王以外最喜歡的球員。我會願意用馬丁換妙麗，但是大鳥聽到應該會立刻掛我電話。Murphy對國王會很有幫助，因為他可以進攻也會搶籃板，防守也不差(即使火鍋不行)。KT換Murphy或許可行，但騎士可能會搶贏我們。我們都知道 Jeff Foster的籃板能力被低估了，我也不介意拿酒駕換他。至於Dunleavy和Ford相較於他們的約就不值得了。有人認為Ford會是Evans的好幫手，但我比較想看到馬丁來做。 Hibbert和Hansbrough都是好的年輕球員，但是弄來Hibbert必需要動到JT。而且Hibbert 看起來是大鳥不想放的人。 Likelihood of a trade between us: I definitely see Troy Murphy moving at the deadline, and I think the Kings could definitely be interested. He doesn't really help our Interior D, but he's a better interior defender than JT or Spencer, and one of the best defensive rebounders in the league, which would help us tremendously. The Kings could probably offer something more palatable to the Pacers than the Cavs as well, since K-9's expiring would be less money than Murphy's contract and the only expiring the Cavs have is Z, who is at $11.5 million. The Pacers would shave some long term money dealing Murphy for Z, but they would lose some short term, while they would gain some short term money by dealing for K-9. The Kings could also probably sweeten the deal with Sergio for Earl Watson or something. Foster could be another player the Kings go after. 可能的交易方案：我確定Troy Murphy會被交易，同時我相信國王有興趣。他並不會幫到我們內線的防守，但他內線防守比JT和小屁孩強，同時也是聯盟中的防守籃板好手，這對我們幫助很大。國王可以出比騎士更誘人的選擇，因為K9代表著省錢，而騎士大Z雖然也是到期約，但更大張。換K9的話短期之內就能省下錢，而且國王可能還可以出到Srod去換 Earl Watson等。Foster是另一個國王想要的人。 Bucks Source: Frank Madden, Manager of Brew Hoop Team Needs: "I'd say our major needs are a wing scorer (esp. with Redd done) and an athletic 4/5 (someone who can block shots, rebound, maybe hit an open 15-footer)... What they need more than anything is to hit another home run in the draft, but their decent start to this season may end up being a bit of a curse in the long run given where they'll probably end up drafting. This draft has a ton of quality PFs, but I'm guessing the Bucks won't be bad enough to get a guy like Favors or Ed Davis." 需求：主要的需求是得分手或體能內線，然而他們更需要一次成功的選秀，只是他們目前的先發好像不太幫忙。明年選秀有很多好大前鋒，但公鹿不夠差到去爭取Favors或Ed Davis。 Who Would You Want: "Looking at the Kings roster, obviously a healthy Kevin Martin would look great on any roster but I really don't know if the Bucks would add another big contract while Redd is still on the books. I'm a fan of Jason Thompson, but I don't see an obvious deal that makes sense for both teams...I assume you guys would need to be bowled over. Among role players, Garcia would be interesting if he was healthy, but his contract and health status probably make that a non-starter." 想要的國王球員：看來看去一個健康的馬丁是最好的選擇，但我不確定公鹿在麥克紅之後還會想要一張大約。我是JT的球迷，但似乎沒有一個對雙方球隊都合理的方案。老賈如果健康的話，也是一個可能的人選，但是他的約和健康情形大概不像是個先發。 My Analysis: The Bucks are in a bad spot with Redd's second MCL injury. His contract is huge and its blocking them from being anything other than MLE players next year. Of their other contracts, only Dan Gadzuric's could be considered bad. I like Ersan Ilyasova a lot (I think he's the Turkish Lamar Odom), but I don't see a trade that could work out there, and Omri Casspi does a lot of what he does. Mbah ah Moute is nice, but Donté does a lot of what he does now, and with better scoring. 分析：麥克紅受傷對公鹿損失慘重，而且這張大約對公鹿明年爭取中產球員也造成困難。我喜歡Ersan Ilyasova，但是似乎沒有可行的方案。 Likelihood of a trade between us: Slim to none. I guess the Kings could swap Nocioni for Gadzuric's somewhat shorter contract, but Gadzuric, although a decent shotblocker and rebounder, is not that good of a player. Frank takes it from here: "Overall, I wouldn't be disappointed if the Bucks simply stand pat, clear their expirings, draft well and see if they can get a guy like Childress with an MLE deal this summer. At this point I don't see them making a trade that significantly upgrades the roster, but they do have some usable young pieces and expiring deals." 可能的交易：看來機會不大。大概就是用酒駕換Gadzuric把約換短一點，可是Gadzuric不大強。目前看起來是不可能有大幅度的加強，但是他們確實有一些年輕球員和到期約。 -- 如果有什麼建議請不吝指教囉^^~~ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.212.241

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