[外電] 小胖&白邊測試報告 (中)

看板Kings (沙加緬度 國王)作者 (新阿泰)時間15年前 (2010/05/27 22:55), 編輯推噓48(48079)
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Bob Hill on Whiteside and Orton Bob Hill對兩位的評價 "They're different players. Hassan can dribble the ball, shoot the ball, blocks a lot of shots. He's a good kid. He's more of a big forward because he doesn't have the strength to play center. As he continues to mature, he's got a really bright future." "他們是兩種不同型的球員 白邊可以運球可以投籃可以是火鍋高手 他是個好孩子 但他太瘦還沒有力量能扛先發中鋒 但只要持續訓練 前途無量 "Daniel's the opposite. He can play big forward and center. He's got good range on his shot. He's a little bit bigger and a little bit more confident (offensively) around the basket. He's more physical than Hassan." 小胖相反 他可以打中鋒因為他夠重 他的外線也很不錯 他在籃下的威脅性很不錯 籃下他打的比白邊更凶悍 "They can both block and they can both shoot. It's going to be a matter of both players getting indoctrinated this summer into what pro basketball is all about to understand the length of the game and the pace of the game." "兩人都是火鍋高手且都有外線能力 他們都會在夏天接受到更靠近NBA球員 等級的專業訓練" Eric Guilleminault's observations: Eric Guilleminault觀點 Hassan Whiteside Hassan WhitesideLong, athletic ... Shy personality ... Has an "innocent' demeanor to him ... Not sure if he can develop as a #1 option ... But is in no way a problem child (reports of bad attitude seem overblown). Not sure why he is viewed so negatively by the media. I think he is just shy with the media and scared to say anything ... This is his first time he's dealt with stardom and he is a pretty simple, laid back kid ... Does not possess the in your face attitude of a Garnett ... He could frustrate a coach because of his expressionless demeanor ... 白邊身材條件一級 但非常害羞 天真無邪 (之前有說他態度不好的傳言似乎是誇大了) 為什麼他會在媒體日那天那麼散漫呢? 我認為是他太害羞了不知道在公眾場合要怎麼表現 他非常單純 也很悠閒自在 不可能會有KG那樣的"真男人" 問題 OR 霸氣 (?) 很多教練可能會被他的天然呆氣死 But it was funny after he blocked a shot, he went over to his agent and said “that is what I do”. And agent laughed and Whiteside gave a big grin. Appears to have a very small circle of trust but seems like a good kid ... Overall the kid lacks maturity and is going to have an adjustment to NBA lifestyle ... Does not have the “give me the damn ball" personality but definitely wants to be present at all times on defense and protect the rim ... Very raw compared to the others in drills. Had harder time in dribbling exercises ... Was the worst of group in dribbling skills (mostly guards) and hunched way over but was also the tallest and performed pretty well for a 7 footer. 很有趣的一點 當他蓋完火鍋 他會跑去跟經紀人說 "看! 這就是我的王道" 經紀人笑了 白邊也跟著笑 有點怕生但看起來是個好孩子 來到NBA必須改變生活方式 沒有那種 "給我那該死的球"的氣勢 但是有捍衛籃下的自覺 對訓練不太熟 運球是裡面最不好的其中一個 但以七呎來說 整體表現水準不錯 Shooting form is not pretty, he puts his off hand over the ball and the release on his shot has some sort of reverse spin ... Does have nice arc but his shooting release is very slow and mechanical ...With all these problems it is surprising that no one has decided to reconstruct his shot completely and shoot the correct way ... Missed most of his free throws, but after practice went 4 for 4 from 3 point line. 投射不好看 出手點高 輔助手的運用有點缺乏 射程不錯 但出手機制有點僵 驚訝的是在場的教練 沒有一個想去修正他的投籃姿勢 MISS掉很多罰球 但可以在三分線投四中四 Post foot work was best of the group. He was the most fluid on the reverse spin drop step dunk on the left block ... Quick and pro like. Had harder time with going middle on his post moves. Also miss timed a couple alley oops from Bob Hill but it was a communication thing ... Likes to reverse dunk and can dunk with ease and fluidity because he is so long ... He also is very inspector gadget like because of his arms able to dunk the ball around the basket quickly and from improbable angles ... Not a Power dunker though ... 低位是王道 從左邊的籃下轉身放藍的腳步很流暢 將像是個職業球員般快速 但走中比較不行 MISS掉一些教練給的阿理由 但是那都是溝通不良的問題 身材的關係籃下灌籃超輕鬆寫意 可以從難度很高的角度把球灌進 因為他的手臂太長了 但是他不是像魔獸那樣喜歡暴力灌籃的中鋒 Was a human eraser on the defensive end and because of his length has a good habit of not jumping unless he has to on block shots, which should keep him out of foul trouble ... Needs to put on some weight but he's not frail ... His upper body strength is adequate but could use a little more in the post when Armstrong and Orton tried to push him out of position ... Defense is obviously ahead of offense at this point. 是個火鍋機器 不用太跳就能敲到鍋子 這可以讓他避免很多犯規麻煩 需要增重但是其實現在的他不能稱之為瘦弱 上肢力量足夠 但可以更好 防守上面顯然比進攻上力量運用的更出色 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 59.121.35.83

05/27 22:57, , 1F
RonArtest93
05/27 22:57, 1F

05/27 22:57, , 2F
傻孩子....
05/27 22:57, 2F

05/27 23:02, , 3F
超想要白邊的QQ
05/27 23:02, 3F

05/27 23:02, , 4F
天然呆 XDDD 感覺好可愛 PS 有教練敢現場改姿勢??
05/27 23:02, 4F

05/27 23:03, , 5F
"MISS掉很多罰球 但可以在三分線投四中四" @.@
05/27 23:03, 5F

05/27 23:06, , 6F
沒仔細看 以為是說三對三時四中四 禁區能力要養很久了.
05/27 23:06, 6F

05/27 23:09, , 7F
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05/27 23:12, , 8F
這評論可以參考參考 但多少都有老王賣瓜的情形 自己的客戶
05/27 23:12, 8F

05/27 23:13, , 9F
果然是練武奇材!
05/27 23:13, 9F

05/27 23:18, , 10F
這樣看來不選白邊感覺好可惜,可是國王近幾年的長人
05/27 23:18, 10F

05/27 23:19, , 11F
眷養史(?)同樣也令人擔憂....
05/27 23:19, 11F
※ 編輯: RonArtest93 來自: 59.121.35.83 (05/27 23:27)

05/27 23:31, , 12F
天然呆好可愛..不過會讓很多教練氣死吧...
05/27 23:31, 12F

05/27 23:31, , 13F
讓R.Adelman來養不曉得會變怎樣??R.Adelman是個好人...
05/27 23:31, 13F

05/27 23:32, , 14F
白邊看起來不賴哦
05/27 23:32, 14F

05/27 23:32, , 15F
應該會很有耐心養他....
05/27 23:32, 15F

05/27 23:32, , 16F
這篇也借轉火箭版....
05/27 23:32, 16F

05/27 23:39, , 17F
在我印象中R.Adelman不太愛用這種要養很久的球員,
05/27 23:39, 17F

05/27 23:39, , 18F
G蛙的例子讓我印象深刻。
05/27 23:39, 18F

05/27 23:40, , 19F
可是他養出了C.Landry(內線)A.Brooks(外線)....
05/27 23:40, 19F

05/27 23:40, , 20F
兩個都養了一年多才明顯的變強....
05/27 23:40, 20F

05/27 23:40, , 21F
不能這麼說 G蛙是時空的問題 而不是矮豆人不愛練新人
05/27 23:40, 21F

05/27 23:41, , 22F
那兩位都有外線能力 老艾比較喜歡...
05/27 23:41, 22F

05/27 23:41, , 23F
垃圾時間G蛙都不一定上的了場,不過當時球隊板凳戰力
05/27 23:41, 23F

05/27 23:41, , 24F
那時候是要衝冠軍的時候 沒有空間讓他練
05/27 23:41, 24F

05/27 23:41, , 25F
充裕也是原因之一。
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05/27 23:41, , 26F
Whiteside也有遠距離...射程遠至三分線...
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05/27 23:42, , 27F
那時只要進入垃圾時間就是我開始譙Adelman的時間,
05/27 23:42, 27F

05/27 23:43, , 28F
那應該就是老艾喜歡的型...
05/27 23:43, 28F

05/27 23:43, , 29F
幹,贏這麼多分不給G蛙上是搞屁喔
05/27 23:43, 29F

05/27 23:44, , 30F
可是明年就有戰績壓力了 我還是不看好Adelman肯花時間練他
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05/27 23:45, , 31F
老艾在國王後期 用兵越用越保守....
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05/27 23:45, , 32F
火箭中鋒一個洞...洞大到連6'6的Hayes來扛....
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05/27 23:46, , 33F
真的選應該有時間給他上...不過有可能先丟NBDL....
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05/27 23:46, , 34F
我預期白邊第一年被各家中鋒教訓的機會很高
05/27 23:46, 34F

05/27 23:47, , 35F
就看他自己挺不挺的過來了
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05/27 23:47, , 36F
A.Brooks也被丟到NBDL過..C.Landry是差一點就被丟進去.
05/27 23:47, 36F

05/27 23:47, , 37F
總比阿屁已經第三年了 還是被各家中鋒教訓的好啊
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05/27 23:48, , 38F
火箭的NBDL系統好像是全聯盟最好的,白邊給火箭養應該
05/27 23:48, 38F
還有 49 則推文
05/28 00:19, , 88F
表弟
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05/28 00:20, , 89F
兩個都要
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05/28 00:23, , 90F
女神:既然你這麼誠實,那就送你Favors吧!!
05/28 00:23, 90F

05/28 00:39, , 91F
不要忘了Udoh , 是個折衷的好選擇 XD
05/28 00:39, 91F

05/28 00:40, , 92F
不想要體脂肪跟長時間養長人的困擾嗎?
05/28 00:40, 92F

05/28 00:40, , 93F
Udoh 選下去就對了 XD
05/28 00:40, 93F

05/28 01:46, , 94F
RA93很愛Udoh齁~
05/28 01:46, 94F

05/28 02:03, , 95F
Udoh也是我看下來今年最平均的安全牌禁區 但缺點也是安全...
05/28 02:03, 95F

05/28 02:03, , 96F
你們第五順位應該不致於去選他啦XD
05/28 02:03, 96F

05/28 02:03, , 97F
他就是那種你挑不出他有啥大缺點 但相對的也沒特殊優點類型
05/28 02:03, 97F

05/28 07:11, , 98F
敗能主要是玻璃 不然常看到他和嘎獸直接補灌.........
05/28 07:11, 98F

05/28 10:01, , 99F
udoh 我覺得至少會是個star
05/28 10:01, 99F

05/28 10:08, , 100F
他的缺點也只有年齡過大而已 其他都還有上升空間
05/28 10:08, 100F

05/28 10:09, , 101F
5~10 是他的合理順位 monmo爵士 9 檢的到一定要檢
05/28 10:09, 101F

05/28 10:09, , 102F
養幾年會比BOO 好用說不定
05/28 10:09, 102F

05/28 10:10, , 103F
而我們如果真的選他我不會太意外
05/28 10:10, 103F

05/28 10:10, , 104F
因為今年 "不安全股" 真的太多了
05/28 10:10, 104F

05/28 10:11, , 105F
表弟的肥胖 白邊的決心 夢羅的體能極限
05/28 10:11, 105F

05/28 10:12, , 106F
AGG 體測出來也不是很漂亮 , ED太嫩
05/28 10:12, 106F

05/28 10:13, , 107F
這幾個長人根本沒有幾個是確定安全的 ,選udoh很合理
05/28 10:13, 107F

05/28 10:14, , 108F
他的上昇空間也不差 , 不想賭博的選下去就對了
05/28 10:14, 108F

05/28 10:32, , 109F
加一個 最夯的favors我從一開始就沒那麼看好
05/28 10:32, 109F

05/28 10:34, , 110F
今年長人的成敗後天養成可能大於順位意義
05/28 10:34, 110F

05/28 10:34, , 111F
udoh 是我認為裡面受影響最小的一群
05/28 10:34, 111F

05/28 20:43, , 112F
我也是認為Udoh是最安全 但是我們26年來第二高順位的簽 真的
05/28 20:43, 112F

05/28 20:43, , 113F
很想選個稍微不平凡點的... 今年除了Favors跟Cousis可能有潛
05/28 20:43, 113F

05/28 20:44, , 114F
力 一大堆禁區首輪我是都不看好還有誰能20/10...唉 都得賭
05/28 20:44, 114F

05/28 20:44, , 115F
Favors是一直有說他名大於實 不過我是覺得態度是他最好本錢
05/28 20:44, 115F

05/28 20:48, , 116F
態度這種東西很主觀的....Favors是好在綜合期待度上
05/28 20:48, 116F

05/28 20:49, , 117F
最年輕 體能佳 學校知名度夠 大學成績不錯 身材好
05/28 20:49, 117F

05/28 20:49, , 118F
態度至少在應對進退上很得體 但這不保證選他就是個
05/28 20:49, 118F

05/28 20:50, , 119F
20/10 保險股 , 選他的球隊後續怎麼安排他的生涯發展
05/28 20:50, 119F

05/28 20:51, , 120F
才是更重要 , 我認為他去馬刺會不錯就是
05/28 20:51, 120F

05/28 20:52, , 121F
而且真的 今年樂透區長人比順位意義真的不大
05/28 20:52, 121F

05/28 20:54, , 122F
有沒有培養的環境是更重要, 14 籤選到的養的起來
05/28 20:54, 122F

05/28 20:55, , 123F
不會比 3,4 籤 生涯成就差, 天份差距非常接近的一屆
05/28 20:55, 123F

05/28 21:33, , 124F
沒辦法 在我們家應對進退得體才能起碼跨過門檻被用 沒看到我
05/28 21:33, 124F

05/28 21:33, , 125F
們家那個7'2天兵因為太天被冰成怎樣...而我們也不太會養長人
05/28 21:33, 125F

05/28 21:34, , 126F
像Cousins來我們家可能會跟第一年的Deron一一又哭又鬧事吧XD
05/28 21:34, 126F

05/28 21:36, , 127F
udoh 的態度聽說也不錯
05/28 21:36, 127F
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