[虎撲] Chad Ford:Secret NBA Draft Big Board

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http://bbs.hupu.com/5847171.html Chad Ford twitter: Here's something cool: We asked NBA GMs & scouts to rank 48 draft prospects on a scale of 0 to 10. About half of the teams responded. 今年的Secret big board由NBA球隊經理與球探對48名潛力新秀進行0-10分的評分,這次 大約有一半的球隊給出了自己的答案 以下轉自http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=8034287#post8034287的二樓 Each year I talk to a number of NBA general managers and scouts to create my NBA Draft Top 100 and Big Board. But this year I decided to go one step further: to ask those same GMs and scouts to actually rate the top 50 NBA prospects.(之前由Ford本人與經理和球探交流來制作自己的排行榜,而今年他則請那些 人自己評分) Below is our first "Secret NBA Draft Big Board" -- the results of the ratings and rankings from our most informed sources in the league. We asked them to predict each player's NBA career, according to two questions: How good a prospect is he? What kind of career will he have?(讓經 理與球探預測這些球員的NBA生涯,提出兩個問題:他是個怎樣的新秀?他的職業生涯會 是怎樣的?) About half of the NBA's 30 teams participated, rating prospects on a 0-to-10 scale. A rating of 0 meant that the player "won't make the league or will have a very minimal NBA career," while a score of 10 meant he was a "top-of-the-line, elite prospect." Our respondents were asked to rate each prospect against all such NBA prospects in recent years.(大約全聯盟一半的球隊 參加了這次評分,0分意味著球員“可能不會進入聯盟,或者NBA生涯只會曇花一現”,而 10分則意味著他是“極品&頂级新秀”,新秀的衡量標準是近年來進入聯盟的那些新秀們 ) We took these scores, averaged them and prorated them on a 100-point scale. This created a consensus "wisdom of the crowd" effect, the same thing that drives our ESPN Forecast panel to great success in predicting NBA outcomes. In other words, the results below (a) are reflective of the opinion of NBA decision-makers about this year's prospects and (b) have predictive value in terms of the NBA careers of these prospects.(這些評的分數被綜合以後換算為百分 制,可謂集合眾人智慧,反映了球隊掌權者對於今年新秀的看法,同時從數值預測了這些 新秀的NBA生涯) ===========================以下僅列前十二名及分數不列評語===================== 1. Victor Oladipo, SG, Indiana Secret NBA Draft Big Board Rating: 85.0(of 100) High Score: 9 (of 10) Low Score: 7 (of 10) 2. Nerlens Noel, C, Kentucky Secret NBA Draft Big Board Rating: 82.5 High Score: 10 Low Score: 4 3. Ben McLemore, SG, Kansas Secret NBA Draft Big Board Rating: 81.7 High Score: 10 Low Score: 7 4. Anthony Bennett, PF, UNLV Secret NBA Draft Big Board Rating: 81.5 High Score: 9 Low Score: 6 5. Otto Porter Jr., SF, Georgetown Secret NBA Draft Big Board Rating: 80.0 High Score: 10 Low Score: 6 6. Alex Len, C, Maryland Secret NBA Draft Big Board Rating: 77.5 High Score: 9 Low Score: 4 7. C.J. McCollum,PG, Lehigh Secret NBA Draft Big Board Rating: 75.0 High Score: 9 Low Score: 6 8. Cody Zeller, PF, Indiana Secret NBA Draft Big Board Rating: 73.3 High Score: 9 Low Score: 6 9. Trey Burke, PG, Michigan Secret NBA Draft Big Board Rating: 73.1 High Score: 9 Low Score: 5 10 (tie). Michael Carter-Williams, PG, Syracuse Secret NBA Draft Big Board Rating: 69.2 High Score: 9 Low Score: 3 10 (tie). Dario Saric, SF, Croatia Secret NBA Draft Big Board Rating: 69.2 High Score: 9 Low Score: 3 12. Dennis Schroeder, PG, Germany Secret NBA Draft Big Board Rating: 66.7 High Score: 9 Low Score: 5 -- ESPN的排名:http://espn.go.com/nba/draft C.J. McCollum 超越了 Trey Burke,落到了國王的七號籤。 ※ 編輯: yoyoman0529 來自: 1.164.178.66 (06/25 23:11)

06/25 23:32, , 1F
Trey已經被 6 pick 預定拉
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06/25 23:32, , 2F
如果掉下來 國王還是有一選的可能
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06/25 23:33, , 3F
如果Trey沒掉 大概50趴CJM 30趴Shabazz 20趴 其他
06/25 23:33, 3F

06/25 23:34, , 4F
還有另一種可能性: CJM提早在7 Pick 被攔胡
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06/25 23:34, , 5F
國王 MCW Shabazz TB3 掉下來那一個 四選一
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06/25 23:37, , 6F
CJM後勢看漲阿 我不認為他會掉到10以後
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06/25 23:38, , 7F
活賽 灰狼 拓荒者 已經等著撿了 太陽也蠢蠢欲動
06/25 23:38, 7F

06/25 23:40, , 8F
TB3的順位 6.7.8 之間 要是掉到9 可就跌破眼鏡了
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06/25 23:40, , 9F
活賽就是專門撿國王漏的球隊
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06/25 23:43, , 10F
活塞每年都在撿我們漏的
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06/25 23:44, , 11F
對活塞而言: 真是甜蜜的煩惱 該撿誰好??
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06/25 23:48, , 12F
表示活塞每年都小勝我們一點...
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06/25 23:49, , 13F
從前活賽只要 二選一就好了 今年可是多選一XDDDD
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06/26 00:03, , 14F
對國王來說還有一種可能,前面有幾隊白癡跳過
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06/26 00:04, , 15F
ola or McLemore, 國王要怎麼辦?
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06/26 00:04, , 16F
聽聽各位的意見? 這兩個天份都是頂尖的
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06/26 00:05, , 17F
但都有一個特質 『絕對不可能打PG』
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06/26 00:09, , 18F
要先看那白癡幾隊選擇了什麼球員 國王會挑最好的
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06/26 00:09, , 19F
如果國王隊能選卻不選,可能就會被下一隊當白痴吧...
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06/26 00:12, , 20F
對啊 真的是兩難 我們缺PG不是秘密
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06/26 00:18, , 22F
free-agents置底有貼啦,但PG的蔡真的頗清淡
06/26 00:18, 22F

06/26 00:19, , 23F
可能就是TE被推回去打一號吧,如果fa可以找個能分擔組織的
06/26 00:19, 23F

06/26 00:19, , 24F
清淡到甚至我覺得簽回TDOG+jimmer+IT 都不會差到哪去
06/26 00:19, 24F

06/26 00:19, , 25F
(如果MM真有戰術函養的話)
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06/26 00:20, , 26F
三號,好比Udoka或以前的DC13,這樣也不是不行
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06/26 00:22, , 27F
最理想的選擇就是小AI吧...
06/26 00:22, 27F

06/26 00:24, , 28F
下半季T-Doug配TE是我幾乎一整季...最好的後場解答...
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06/26 00:25, , 29F
過半場後把球給TE,開始無球跑動,或是到45度角和底線
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06/26 00:26, , 30F
附近跟P-Pat做Pick&Roll...防守就不用說了...
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06/26 00:26, , 31F
所以基本上大家還是傾向先抓最好的就對了...
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06/26 00:26, , 32F
陣容的缺失再想辦法補
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06/26 00:30, , 33F
如果Ola Ben 被與Burke CJM Shabazz 比較
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06/26 00:30, , 34F
誰是最好的球員還難說
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06/26 00:30, , 35F
我比較保守,新團隊第一戰+選秀小年,求穩是最保險的,像
06/26 00:30, 35F

06/26 00:30, , 36F
反正挑誰也沒辦法馬上補洞 當然先挑最好的啦 XD
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06/26 00:30, , 37F
如果知道那白癡幾隊選了誰 就知道怎麼選擇了
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06/26 00:31, , 38F
灰熊選康利即可
06/26 00:31, 38F

06/26 00:31, , 39F
不過我認為 Otto Porter 掉下來的機率也很大XDD
06/26 00:31, 39F
還有 36 則推文
06/26 01:00, , 76F
國王最適合當J.Jack的那個人叫MT...
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06/26 01:00, , 77F
而且我認為MM用起來可能是加強板的J.Jack
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06/26 01:01, , 78F
把Trey Burke當作CP3來使用 通常還是比較習慣的XDD
06/26 01:01, 78F

06/26 01:05, , 79F
勇士球風的PG 不論是Curry 還是 J.Jack
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06/26 01:06, , 80F
TB3要從CP3球風轉型成狂野勇士風 也需要陣痛期的XD
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06/26 01:07, , 81F
畢竟勇士球風的PG 也需要SG能力 可能MT轉型也比他快
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06/26 01:07, , 82F
MM也沒有說他從勇士來的就一定要打勇士球風吧?
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06/26 01:08, , 83F
如果是這樣,選到MCW你叫他怎麼混......
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06/26 01:09, , 84F
要MT當J.Jack 還需要時間耶 一邊1.3助攻 另一邊5.5
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06/26 01:10, , 85F
打勇士球風的機率蠻大的阿 看看賣馬的球員需求
06/26 01:10, 85F

06/26 01:10, , 86F
功能性可以拆開啊...IT控,MT攻啊,總教練不是就是要
06/26 01:10, 86F

06/26 01:10, , 87F
9149那一篇文章
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06/26 01:11, , 88F
應變嗎...
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06/26 01:11, , 89F
總教練要會運球 PNR CS 高BBIQ的球員
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06/26 01:13, , 90F
這樣也不足以直接推論到勇士球風這麼快吧....@@
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06/26 01:14, , 91F
9149有寫 要能夠融入教練所帶來的體系
06/26 01:14, 91F

06/26 01:14, , 92F
勇士的體系 賣馬也有貢獻 賣馬將成功經歷傳承很正常
06/26 01:14, 92F

06/26 01:15, , 93F
嘖 啊怎麼不說是黃蜂體系或騎士LBJ體系
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06/26 01:15, , 94F
而且不論是老闆 還是 GM 都有滿滿的勇士風格
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06/26 01:16, , 95F
MM就只能停留在上一段回億嗎? 他不可以回想到初戀嗎?
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06/26 01:17, , 96F
當然阿 黃蜂和騎士 都嘛是慢節奏的 與GM所想的不符阿
06/26 01:17, 96F

06/26 01:17, , 97F
GM說要打造最快的球隊 結果又要回去初戀打慢節奏
06/26 01:17, 97F

06/26 01:17, , 98F
想都蠻矛盾的
06/26 01:17, 98F

06/26 01:19, , 99F
打快節奏 又要 Share ball 想想 最接近的就勇士了
06/26 01:19, 99F

06/26 01:19, , 100F
好啦你贏啦我要睡了掰
06/26 01:19, 100F

06/26 01:30, , 101F
勇士球風聽起來有點虛無飄渺..本質應該是快速防守反擊
06/26 01:30, 101F

06/26 01:31, , 102F
再加上有神控...但國王要走所謂的勇士球風...?
06/26 01:31, 102F

06/26 01:32, , 103F
勇士陣中可是有三位全明星(Lee 兩屆全明星一次第三隊
06/26 01:32, 103F

06/26 01:32, , 104F
Bogut 一次第三隊一次火鍋王 Curry 無冕王)
06/26 01:32, 104F

06/26 01:33, , 105F
不一定 但我覺得球隊正朝著這方向走 選後衛可能性大
06/26 01:33, 105F

06/26 01:33, , 106F
Barnes至少是勇士先發第四得分點啦...中鋒是防守用的
06/26 01:33, 106F

06/26 01:33, , 107F
基底差很多 再加上勇士這兩年進補的Barnes跟Thompson
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06/26 01:34, , 108F
國王要走的套路也是快速防守反擊 但我覺得比較像尼克
06/26 01:34, 108F

06/26 01:36, , 109F
08~09賽季到10~11賽季這段轉型的陣痛期
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06/26 01:37, , 110F
看選誰吧 選擇CJM OR Shabazz 就會比較接近勇士路線
06/26 01:37, 110F

06/26 01:37, , 111F
逐年出清一些重攻輕守的球員像是假貓尻佛/哈寶寶/Nate
06/26 01:37, 111F

06/26 01:39, , 112F
選擇 TB3 或 MCW 可能意味著 要打五門齊了
06/26 01:39, 112F

06/26 08:56, , 113F
看不懂為什麼國王要走勇士路線@@ 沒有一個位子的球員相似
06/26 08:56, 113F

06/26 08:56, , 114F
而且這季明明對戰成績是國王3-1啊XD
06/26 08:56, 114F

06/26 10:15, , 115F
Chad Ford 6.0出了 鵜鶘Burke 國王CJM
06/26 10:15, 115F
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