[綜合] Kings Draft Needs

看板Kings (沙加緬度 國王)作者 (人生就是如此)時間10年前 (2015/06/22 17:31), 10年前編輯推噓23(23057)
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資訊分享 來源:http://goo.gl/PEkOW4 After a period of front office turmoil and coaching turnover, the Sacramento Kings seem to have finally found their pairing for the foreseeable future in George Karl as the coach and Vlade Divac as the key basketball ops decision maker under owner Vivek Ranadive. 在Karl擔任主帥和老迪擔任阿三老板底下的籃球營運部門的決策者並結束高層之亂 跟換帥失利之後,國王看起來是終於找到了可預見的未來。 We know that Karl will want to run a pretty uptempo scheme based around heavy pick-and-roll, but the roster doesn't really totally fit that kind of scheme yet. And with DeMarcus Cousins as the clear franchise centerpiece, it's clear Karl will have to adjust slightly. However, Divac is a totally new element in the scheme of basketball ops, having spent a majority of his time over the past decade in Serbia working for the national team. 我們都知道Karl想要打著重P&R的快節奏籃球,但陣容還不夠適合。並且在確認胖子是招牌 主菜之後,Karl勢必是得些微的調整的。無論如何,在塞爾維亞國家隊花了不少時間的 老迪在國王的籃球營運部門是個全新的衝擊。 That means things could be a bit surprising with the Kings, depending on what ends up becoming available at No. 6 overall. Here's a quick breakdown of the needs and options for the team. 這意味著在選完6號籤之後,可能會令人驚訝也說不定! 以下分析國王的需求和其它選擇 NEEDS -- POINT GUARD, SHOOTING, DEFENSE, FRONTCOURT DEPTH 需求 -- 控衛,外線投射,防守,前場輪替深度 The Kings have quite a few needs, and could go in any direction that they want with this pick. But a few overall big roster problems generally stick out. First and foremost, it's paramount that they get better defensively next season. The Kings finished 27th in defensive rating last season, allowing 109 points per 100 possessions. Particularly, the team was awful defending in transition, as they gave up more points than any other team in the NBA in that situation according to Synergy. Getting more players who will consistently get back quickly defensively will be essential to building this roster. 國王有幾個需求,並且可能在6號籤走向任何他們想要的方向。但是整體說來這陣容還是 有一些很凸顯的問題。首先,在下季最重要的事情還是先改善防守。國王平均100個球權讓 對手得109分在上季的防守評比中在30隊排名第27。尤其在攻守轉換的時候,防守簡直是 爛到嚇人,在這情況下的防守是聯盟最差。打造一個更多球員能夠一直保持快速回防的 陣容是必須的。 Still though, this defense wasn't exactly great in halfcourt situations either, giving up 91.9 points-per-100 possessions, 27th in the NBA. There are no playmakers on that side of the ball for this team. They finished 27th in forced turnover rate, and they struggled to get out on spot-up shooters as they gave up the third-most 3-point attempts in the league. Cousins has turned into a solid defender inside both around the rim and in the post, but surrounding him they need to start filling the roster with better talent on that side of the ball. 儘管在半場陣地戰的防守也不是太好,對手100個球權就會掉91.9分,一樣排聯盟27位。 隊上在防守端就像是沒有指揮官一樣。在迫使對手失誤比率上也是排27位,並且在防守 定點射手上很掙扎,對手三分出手次數排聯盟第三多。胖子成為了一個防守油漆區跟籃框 都很紮實的防守者,但是國王還需要開始找些在防守上具有更好天賦的人來幫助他。 On offense, the team needs to shoot the ball better from the outside if they're going to be successful in George Karl's system. Nik Stauskas should give them some natural progression in that regard next season after his rough rookie campaign, but if that never comes along they will need a backup plan for more shooting from the wing. 在進攻端上,如果在Karl的進攻體系要成功,隊上是需要更好的外圍投射能力的。 Nik Stauskas在經過起伏的新人球季之後在下季應該能給隊上帶來一些外線的進步, 但如果沒有成真的話國王想必是要在側翼的外線攻擊上作個備案的。 Another need for the team is at point guard, where Darren Collison had a solid season in his maiden voyage with the Kings, but could certainly be upgraded upon. Even if they feel comfortable with Collison in the mix as the starter, they undoubtedly need depth behind him. Andre Miller is a free agent and, despite being joined at the hip with Karl, is on his last legs as a pro, and Ray McCallum hasn't shown anything quite yet to get terribly excited about. 另一個隊上的需求是控球後衛,Darren Collison在國王的首個球季表現的相當不賴, 但好還能更好。即使Collison在先發表現的令國王舒服,毫無疑問在他之後還是需要輪替 深度的。A米是個自由球員,儘管是因為跟Karl的好交情才來到國王,也是到了他職業生涯 的末端了,接著Ray還沒能證明過些什麼呢。 FIVE POTENTIAL OPTIONS Emmanuel Mudiay | PG | Guangdong, China | Ranking: No. 3 Mudiay would represent a perfect fit in Karl's system as a pick-and-roll heavy guard that can get into the lane whenever he wants. He not only makes plays for others and finds open spot up shooters with ease, but he also scores at the rim and has a projectable frame defensively. If he fell to No. 6, it would be hard to see why they would pass on him, given his value and schematic fit. Mudiay在打P&R的時候很如魚得水,大概能夠完美適應Karl體系下的PG一職。他不僅能夠 作球給隊友,簡單的找到外圍的定點大空檔,而且他也能殺入籃下得分又有計劃性的 防守策略。如果他掉到#6還沒人要,在他的球技價值跟體系適合度下,很難想像國王會 跳過他。 Willie Cauley-Stein | C/PF | Kentucky | Ranking: No. 8 Cauley-Stein is reportedly the guy that Cousins wants the Kings to pick, and it's not the worst idea to keep your star happy, especially when it involves a player of this potential defensive star's stature. Cauley-Stein would be a pretty perfect fit defensively with Cousins, hopefully allowing the big man to take on easier defensive assignments that fit his skillset better. There would be some offensive problems while Cauley-Stein gets used to more plays in the pick-and-roll (Kentucky used it rarely last season), but this would also be a terrific fit. WCS根據報導指出是胖子想要國王選的人,讓胖子心情好也是個好主意,尤其又是個漢草 好的潛力防守悍將。WCS會是個很搭胖子的防守球員,希望能減輕他防守端的工作讓他在 其它方面發揮得更好。WCS在大量的P&R進攻下可能會出現一些問題(Kentucky上季很少 使用P&R),但選他還是一個很好的決定。 Justise Winslow | SG/SF | Duke | Ranking: No. 6 He hasn't really been linked to the Kings yet, but he'd fit pretty well in a positionless lineup in between Ben McLemore and Rudy Gay. They would combine to give the Kings a lot of athleticism and versatility, and would also have the potential to really shoot the ball if Winslow and McLemore could keep developing in that regard. That kind of lineup screams "George Karl" to me. Winslow還沒跟國王有太多的眉來眼去,但他在有Ben跟Gay在的陣容中會發揮得很不錯。 他們三位能給國王帶來很多運動能力跟多功能的用途,如果Winslow和McLemore能繼續在 保持外線的進步這件事作的好的話,他們是有潛力有良好外線能力的。這種陣容讓我想 大喊:"囧卡style"。 Mario Hezonja | SG/SF | Barcelona | Ranking: No. 7 Another potential shooter that would give them some athleticism on the wing. Karl would really have fun with him, allowing him to run out in transition with his point guard and shoot the heck out of the ball. He also has some pretty underrated playmaking skills from the wing that could be interesting in this system. He wouldn't help their defense at all, but he'd have a good chance of reaching his ceiling with this team. Mario是另一個能夠帶來些活動能力的側翼潛力射手。Karl應該能用他用的很爽,讓他在 攻守轉換跟PG一起跑動並打出一些豪小球。他在側翼上也有些被低估的playmaking技能, 在囧卡體系下會很有趣。他也許無法幫防守加太多分,但他會有很好的機會在國王隊發展 得很好。 Kristaps Porzingis | PF | Sevilla | Ranking: No. 5 Porzingis would be an incredible fit here next to Cousins, but he goes at the bottom of this list for a few reasons. First and foremost, it seems like this team wants to win soon to prove to Cousins that they're moving in the right direction. Porzingis is a terrific long-term prospect, but it might take him two years to really adjust to the NBA physically and speed-wise. Second, I don't think he'll be here for them when their pick comes around, as the Magic and Sixers seem pretty high on him. KP會是胖子的絕佳搭擋,但在這個清單的底部才提到他是有些原因的。首先,國王隊 看起來是想要證明給胖子看他們是走在正確的方向上的,要快點贏球。KP是個需要長期 培養的優秀潛力股,但他至少也要花兩年時間來適應NBA等級的身體對抗強度跟速度。 再來,我不覺得他會掉到#6,魔術跟七六人看起來對他是有高度興趣的。 TRADE 交易選項 Trade up: I would guess that the Kings do not look to move up in the draft simply because there are so many options that fit for them where they are. Any of the five potential options fit the way this roster is likely going, and you've got to assume that at least three of them will be on the board as Karl Towns, Jahlil Okafor and D'Angelo Russell will be safely taken. 向上交易:我猜國王不會往上交易啦,簡單來說就是那公認的三~五個潛力股人家要自己 選來養不想換啦! Trade down: To me, this is more likely, although I don't know that I see it happening. There are a lot of options here, so moving down a couple of spots could still ensure them getting one of their guys. But having said that, I don't think it would be crazy if instead of trading down, they... 向下交易:在我看來這是比較有可能的,雖然我不知道會不會發生。還是有一些好貨在 後面可以挑,所以向下交易幾個順位也許還是能夠補到需要的人。但說起來嘛,我不認為 向下交易是愚蠢的行為,畢竟他們...(應該是在酸說近幾年選秀都蠻失敗的意思) Trade out: The Kings could very well decide to try to light this proverbial candle and make their move for contention now. Ty Lawson is sitting there on the trade market, and we know that he is a perfect fit with George Karl. He's also probably just straight up worth the sixth overall pick. He has two years remaining on his deal, and he's pretty close to being an elite offensive point guard in this league. The Kings would probably be lucky to get someone as good as Lawson with this pick in a couple of years. Plus, he's young enough still to where you can continue to build around him once his contract runs up after two seasons. There might need to be some additional pieces from both sides to make something like this work, but there are worse ideas. 交易選秀權:國王隊現在要好好討論這個可能性。Ty Lawson已經被擺在交易市場上了, 而且大家都知道他在Karl手下適應的很好。他也的確值得用#6來換。他的約還剩下兩年, 進攻端在聯盟PG中也是頂尖的。國王如果能用#6得到像Ty Lawson這麼棒的球員在未來幾 年是很幸運的。加上他在兩年後約到之後還是很年輕,依舊可以繼續圍繞他打造陣容。 兩邊要完成這個交易可能都還要再加些配菜,不過這不是好主意。(所以沒換成啊) SOMETHING OUT OF THE BOX 弦外之音 Vlade Divac has already said he has no desire to trade Cousins, but the spectre of that potential move will likely inform their decisions for the next couple of seasons -- either until he's made happy by the team becoming a winner, or by him demanding out after getting sick of the organizational problems. If Divac decides the time is right to make a move, I don't think anyone could say that they didn't see it coming, at the very least. 老迪已經說他不會把胖子交易掉的,不過這潛在的可怕念頭在未來幾季中也許還是會出現 高層的決定之中--要嘛國王隊變成贏家讓胖子很爽,要嘛讓胖子受夠高層亂搞的毛病 要求閃人。如果老迪真的作出這決定,最起碼沒人敢說不可能發生吧。 It's also worth noting that, flat out, we have absolutely no idea what Divac values in prospects, which gives this pick the potential for some fireworks. If Mudiay is gone and he decides in concert with Karl that a point guard is a necessity, maybe someone crazy like Cameron Payne ends up in play here. Maybe they fall in love with Myles Turner's size, shooting ability, and potential to protect the rim next to Cousins. We just don't know yet what kind of basketball ops guy Vlade will be. 大家現在也還沒確定老迪怎麼評價這些潛力股,在選秀會會作什麼驚人之舉。如果Mudiay 被選走了,在跟Karl的合作下控球後衛是個必須的要素,也許Cameron Payne最終會來國王 也說不定。也或許他們會對Myles Turner的身體條件、投籃能力、能在胖子旁保護籃框的 潛力一見鍾情。我們還不知道老迪會是個什麼樣的籃球營運部門管理人。 個人意見 前幾天看到的,今天閒來無事翻一下。亂翻後面更亂翻,有錯請指正,重點是一起討論。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 218.173.102.252 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Kings/M.1434965508.A.E49.html ※ 編輯: gibe (218.173.102.252), 06/22/2015 17:32:10 ※ 編輯: gibe (218.173.102.252), 06/22/2015 17:38:06

06/22 17:39, , 1F
我觀點跟這篇差不多,1.選WCS加強防守端解放胖子壓力
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06/22 17:40, , 2F
2.選Mudiay讓他帶替補,伺機而動打先發。
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06/22 17:46, , 3F
3.交易泰勞沒必要更別說加菜,除非他們加菜讓我們賺很大。
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06/22 17:49, , 4F
推最後一句XD 我常覺得來國王板的最大收穫不是
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06/22 17:50, , 5F
誰又很強大,而是可以一次看到不同的人平等的一起
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06/22 17:50, , 6F
討論。
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06/22 17:51, , 7F
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06/22 17:52, , 8F
這篇算蠻中肯的文了,作者沒排斥任何可能性
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06/22 17:52, , 9F
要知道國外鄉民個人喜惡常常會帶到分析文裡的 XD
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06/22 17:54, , 10F
就我個人而言,KP Mario純論天份都是這屆top3
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06/22 17:57, , 11F
可是純天分的選擇往往只能開季後才知道事有蹊蹺
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06/22 17:57, , 12F
(包括Mario的脾氣、KP的適應程度)
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06/22 17:59, , 13F
當然可能老迪知道的更多,但球迷只能霧裡看花
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06/22 18:00, , 14F
相對而言Winslow,Wcs這類的球員反映在實戰的能力
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06/22 18:01, , 15F
會比較明顯。尤其是他們又點到籃板與防守的基本技能
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06/22 18:01, , 16F
我們最近一次放掉的天份是抓猛
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06/22 18:02, , 17F
這在夏聯可能就會很突出。這類球員上限不是沒有
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06/22 18:03, , 18F
只是沒點到明星常備的特質如運球、Iso。
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06/22 18:04, , 19F
(不過Winslow的技巧沒話說的超齡是個特例)
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06/22 18:06, , 20F
然後回到控球。Mudiay、Ty、Payne都不錯。
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06/22 18:08, , 21F
而控球這位置經驗與沉穩相對其他位置重要
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06/22 18:10, , 22F
Payne會先展現出來實戰面,Mudiay可能剛進聯盟
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06/22 18:11, , 23F
需要前輩Carry的環境才養的好。
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06/22 18:11, , 24F
(譬如三巨頭之於菜鳥rondo)
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06/22 18:14, , 25F
這六位就是起跑點不同。有些人是烏龜有些是兔子
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06/22 18:15, , 26F
烏龜很慢但只要具有實在的特質慢一點無所謂
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06/22 18:16, , 27F
但再慢不能慢到熱中暑直接死掉。
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06/22 18:18, , 28F
我是用這角度去思考這些人。撇開對「天份與平庸」
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06/22 18:18, , 29F
名詞的糾結 XD
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06/22 18:22, , 30F
不能慢到表弟不爽走掉
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06/22 18:23, , 31F
嗯,所以不要選到死烏龜啊 XDDD
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06/22 18:39, , 32F
只剩四天了,板主有要開賭盤嗎XD
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06/22 18:46, , 33F
老實講,當屆天分最好我覺得是KP MUDIAY MARIO
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06/22 18:47, , 34F
小道消息,據說MUDIAY在中國時是朱芳雨教他跑位~
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06/22 18:58, , 35F
Mudiay KP WCS Mario Payne Winslow 這六個機率最高
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06/22 18:59, , 36F
再加個交易還有其他就湊到8個了
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06/22 19:00, , 37F
至於向下交易要怎麼算就看板主
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06/22 19:20, , 38F
早上看到一則是說,囧卡表示國王現在最需要的是能保衛籃
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06/22 19:22, , 39F
框、能防守的人。 (WCS 可能性增加)
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06/22 19:27, , 40F
基本上就是 WCS Winslow Mudiay 三選一了
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06/22 19:32, , 41F
還有交易
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06/22 19:41, , 42F
Mudiay賣的是其獨特性:速度
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06/22 19:42, , 43F
你想像一下掉個幾城功力的健康Rose去 run
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06/22 19:43, , 44F
勇士shane livingston的那個角色。
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06/22 19:43, , 45F
大概就是他新人年可以給予的,外圍射手更多借助他
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06/22 19:44, , 46F
速度create出來的三分球。
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06/22 19:46, , 47F
也就是說不能從他個人球技完成度去衡量他。
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06/22 19:46, , 48F
要看他帶給整體甚麼。
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06/22 19:50, , 49F
Mudiay不是拒絕你們的試訓了?
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06/22 19:52, , 50F
我們也選過很多沒來試訓的,這OK
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06/22 20:00, , 51F
現在好不容易剩PF一個洞,補即戰力吧,陣容齊,戰績起
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06/22 20:00, , 52F
來,替補自然好找,球員續留意願也高,如果選擇賭天
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06/22 20:00, , 53F
份,那還得保證運氣好賭對了,不然就白白浪費一年可以
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06/22 20:00, , 54F
改變球隊體質的機會
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06/22 20:13, , 55F
希望國王能選到KP 不過感覺還是會選WCS 不要選慢贏就好
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06/22 20:18, , 56F
WCS+1
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06/22 20:40, , 57F
其實慢贏算即戰力,只是你們位置滿了!
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06/22 21:06, , 58F
WCS拜託
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06/22 21:48, , 59F
WCS我覺得最後一塊拼圖!季後賽衝擊有望
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06/22 21:50, , 60F
萬一MUDIAY掉到6,你們依然會偏好WCS嗎?
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06/22 22:10, , 61F
Mudiay掉到6還有得選 我還是比較偏好WCS
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06/22 22:11, , 62F
或Mario 事實上我認為最終大概也就是他跟WCS二選一
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06/22 22:12, , 63F
這兩隻比我沒太大意見 如果能透過交易或FA把PF補起來
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06/22 22:12, , 64F
我會選木笛
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06/22 22:12, , 65F
這屆選秀除了兩大長人,不論是那位都不會有立即的貢
06/22 22:12, 65F

06/22 22:12, , 66F
獻,怎麼可能加了一個新秀馬上就能打季後賽,更何況
06/22 22:12, 66F

06/22 22:12, , 67F
我們是在變態的西區。
06/22 22:12, 67F

06/22 23:16, , 68F
http://goo.gl/X7Fd5e 最近各家選秀順位預測
06/22 23:16, 68F

06/22 23:31, , 69F
怎麼都預測我們選Mudiay...感覺前面應該會有人要阿
06/22 23:31, 69F

06/22 23:34, , 70F
最近各家的預測 其實很類似我的Mock 2.0
06/22 23:34, 70F

06/22 23:34, , 71F
我想原因出在於 現代籃球對於空間的認識
06/22 23:34, 71F

06/22 23:47, , 72F
Okafor、Mudiay、Winslow很常出現在預測的前六順位,請
06/22 23:47, 72F

06/22 23:47, , 73F
問和現代籃球對空間的認識,有什麼關聯嗎@@?
06/22 23:47, 73F

06/22 23:55, , 74F
Winslow Mudiay都是能打小球陣 撕裂空間的好人選
06/22 23:55, 74F

06/22 23:55, , 75F
Okafor倒是例外...
06/22 23:55, 75F

06/22 23:56, , 76F
個人覺得我們不太可能選到Mudiay 他已經拒絕我們視訊
06/22 23:56, 76F

06/22 23:56, , 77F
很明顯不想露點給我們 噢不是 是確定前面有人會選
06/22 23:56, 77F

06/23 00:06, , 78F
我之前就覺得Mudiay只會想去大城市,看來是真的
06/23 00:06, 78F

06/23 12:02, , 79F
#6 換泰勞真的超賺 只是換了DC真的不知道要幹嘛
06/23 12:02, 79F

06/23 16:09, , 80F
結果倒數第二段的傳聞今天就發生了,真令人無言。
06/23 16:09, 80F
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