[乳摸] Markelle Fultz可能與國王會面?

看板Kings (沙加緬度 國王)作者 (Tempo)時間8年前 (2017/06/12 23:16), 8年前編輯推噓48(48082)
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Markelle Fultz is working out for the Kings. Is Sacramento trying to trade up to No. 1? 富兒子要去國王試訓? 難道國王嘗試向上交易狀元籤? https://goo.gl/K8tY3H Markelle Fultz possibly visiting with the Kings 富兒子有可能與國王會面 https://goo.gl/tqEBqO Washington guard Markelle Fultz is the heavy favorite to be the first pick in the 2017 NBA draft on June 22. Right now, the Boston Celtics hold that pick. Why, then, is Fultz reportedly set to work out for the Sacramento Kings? Update: Jason Jones of the Sacramento Bee said Fault won’t visit Sacramento this Sunday, but that a visit is still possible. Fultz被手握狀元籤的超賽選走的機率大概有87%那麼高,但此時有消息指出, 富兒子要前往國王試訓? (黑人問號.jpg) 後續更新:Fultz這週末(6/10)不會去國王,但之後還是有可能。 The Kings hold picks No. 5 and No. 10 in the first round. Sacramento has already been involved in trade rumors, with one report saying the team could potentially trade up to the third pick to select De’Aaron Fox. 國王目前手握#5和#10,之前有傳出可能向上換#3來選Fox。 Would the Kings have enough ammunition to trade up to No. 1? Would Boston really trade out the top spot for more picks rather than looking for an established superstar? Why is Fultz taking time out of his busy schedule to visit Sacramento? 國王有足夠的籌碼換狀元籤嗎? 超賽有可能會用一個超級基石去換更多籤嗎? 不然富兒子為何要百忙之中抽空去沙加緬度?(李組長眉頭一皺覺得案情不單純) With the draft less than two weeks away, rumor season is in full swing. This is our best guess at figuring out what Fultz’s workout for the Kings could actually mean. 距離選秀日不到兩週,流言滿天飛(有嗎?) 讓我們來抽絲剝繭超賽國王富兒子之間的三角關係揪竟是如何。 Maybe Boston has another prospect rated as highly as Fultz Fultz is entering the draft as the consensus top player, but we have no idea how Danny Ainge and Boston’s brass views him. This is a deep and talented draft within the top 10. It’s possible Ainge likes another player just as much as Fultz. "或許超賽有其他評價跟Fultz一樣高的人選" Fultz一直以來都是狀元熱門,但我們不是超賽和Ainge的肚裡蛔蟲,不知道他們的看法。 2017選秀大年前十順位都好棒棒,說不定Ainge覺得之中某人跟Fultz一樣棒。 Let’s say, hypothetically, that the Celtics love Duke forward Jayson Tatum. By pairing Tatum with last year’s No. 3 pick, Jaylen Brown, Boston would have two big wings with complementary skill sets. Tatum has go-to scoring ability, while Brown projects as the better defender because of his superior athleticism. There’s a lot to like about that potential pairing. 讓我們假設一下(公堂之上假設一下不違法?),說不定賽爾提克也滿愛Jayson Tatum的, 把Tatum跟去年選的Jaylen Brown放在一起可能可以迸出新滋味。 Tatum的進攻配上Brown的防守,側翼雙箭頭互補搭配讚讚讚。 If Boston has Tatum (or another player) rated as highly as Fultz, a trade with the Kings could make some sense. If Tatum is still around at No. 5, Boston could send Fultz to Sacramento for No. 5, No. 10, and a young veteran like center Willie Cauley-Stein. Boston has been looking for rim protection for years, and Cauley-Stein could provide it. 如果超賽真的覺得有人跟Fultz一樣好,這樣才說得通。 若#5選得到Tatum,超賽可能可以換來#5 + #10 + 國王的年輕好手像是WCS。 超賽一直想要一個籃筐保護者而WCS正好符合。 This would be using the first pick to address multiple needs rather than simply handing the future of the franchise off to Fultz. It might seem like a long shot, but we know Ainge has never been scared to make a deal. This would be his most courageous move yet. 這樣一來超賽可以一次滿足很多需求,儘管風險有點高, 但Ainge的電腦裡沒有 怕.jpg。 如果真的做了這將會是他最有勇氣的一步。 For Sacramento, trading up for Fultz is worth it I advised the Kings against trading up to No. 3 for De’Aaron Fox earlier this week. The Kings simply have too many holes to deal two top-10 picks for a player who still might be available when their No. 5 selection rolls around. Fultz is different. If a hypothetical offer of No. 5 + No. 10 + Willie Cauley-Stein is on the table, Sacramento would have to do the trade. "對國王來說,交易來Fultz這一步絕對值得" 我(筆者)之前建議國王拿兩支籤向上交易#3來選fox,但國王陣容要補的洞很多, 而fox是有可能掉到#5的。 Fultz不一樣,一但你有機會用#5 + #10 + WCS換到他,沒有什麼好猶豫的。 Fultz has all the makings of a superstar guard. He can drain jumpers off the dribble and finish like an acrobat at the rim, and he plays with a rare creativity when the ball is in his hands. I like to compare him to a bigger Kyrie Irving — and that extra size should mean he won’t have the same defensive issues Irving does. Fultz擁有所有成為超級巨星的條件,他可以自己帶球命中投籃,也能各種攻擊籃框把 球擺進,一球在手創意無窮。 我喜歡把他比喻成大隻(bigger)的Irving,"大隻"表示他沒有像KI那樣的防守疑慮。 My guess is that Fultz eventually develops into one of the best guards in the NBA. If Boston is thinking about trading out of the first pick, the Kings (or any other franchise) would be wise to make a big offer for the opportunity to draft him. 我認為Fultz之後將會成為NBA最好的後衛之一,所以如果賽爾提克有意思要交易狀元籤, 國王(或其他樂透區球隊)如果夠聰明,此時不梭哈你的籌碼更待何時? Ultimately, it seems unlikely Boston would trade the first pick to the Kings It’s fun to speculate about potential trades like this one, but it still doesn’t really pass the sniff test. Does Boston really need more picks? Probably not. If the Celtics aren’t completely sold on Fultz, dealing the top pick to Chicago for Jimmy Butler or Indiana for Paul George makes more sense. "但說到底,超賽跟國王交易的機率不大" 預測像這樣的交易很有趣,但是這樁交易其實算不上合理。 賽爾提克484真的需要更多的選秀籤?84。 如果真的不需要Fultz,拿狀元籤去換Jimmy Butler或是Paul George不是更好? Kudos to the Kings for getting Fultz in town, though. A year ago, there were reports that players were scared to work out for Sacramento given the dysfunction in the front office. That doesn’t appear to be the case anymore. Does this workout actually mean anything? Probably not. We just can’t wait for the draft to finally arrive on June 22. 但國王也別灰心,往好的方面想,之前我們可是號稱新秀墳場,一堆新秀講到要去國王 試訓都 怕.jpg。至少現在連Fultz都傳言要來試訓了(排X成功?) 但試訓也不代表什麼,距離選秀日不到兩星期,讓我們繼續看下去。 心得: 有夢最美,希望相隨 怒搶狀元,甘五摳零 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.63.106.238 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Kings/M.1497280572.A.435.html ※ 編輯: freetempo (61.63.106.238), 06/12/2017 23:18:32

06/12 23:47, , 1F
美夢變惡夢,希望變絕望(誤
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06/13 00:06, , 2F
如果真能換到Fultz,我其實蠻樂觀其成的
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06/13 00:42, , 3F
換fults大概是5+10+wcs 才有機會了
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06/13 00:42, , 4F
那這樣一來,SF的洞只能從自由市場或是交易取得了嗎...
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06/13 01:11, , 6F
真的值得陪WCS下去?雖然還有蠟筆
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06/13 05:29, , 7F
Gay正是跳出合約囉
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06/13 05:57, , 8F
超級不希望用#3+#10+WCS換 覺得不值得 何況fox dsj 都不錯
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06/13 05:58, , 9F
但也有可能是知道不可能選到富 對他就沒那麼有好感
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06/13 06:00, , 10F
高光覺得並沒有明顯高出其他pg超多 有人想法跟我差不多嗎?
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06/13 06:37, , 11F
5+10+wcs 換得到當然換
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06/13 08:29, , 12F
如果5+10+WCS就換得到,根本是NO BRAINER
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06/13 08:30, , 13F
FULTZ幾乎被各家看好是很難養壞的基石,即使是目前看來是第二
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06/13 08:32, , 14F
順位的BALL也有他的疑慮,更遑論後面的順位了.我是覺得能拿到
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06/13 08:33, , 15F
未來的核心我們就應該去換,畢竟FULTZ自帶很難養壞屬性,這點
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06/13 08:35, , 16F
我覺得滿重要的,畢竟國王的養成...嗯你知道的.搭配前場怕怕
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06/13 08:36, , 17F
和蠟筆,練(ㄊㄢˇ)個三年,應該就有機會衝擊季後賽了
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我很喜歡WCS,但礙於年紀和這幾年的進步幅度(雖然二哥來後他
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06/13 08:38, , 19F
啊啊 我把#5打成#3了 這樣的話 那我也樂見其成吧
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步得很多),但對於他能否成長到當初的模板拳王,我個人是覺得
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06/13 08:40, , 21F
很困難啊!
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06/13 08:47, , 22F
我覺得還會長很多 現在禁區三菜良性競爭 還有KK帶(你看那
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06/13 08:48, , 23F
精美的小拋球) 而且少了WCS大概少8成的十大好球 哭哭
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06/13 08:49, , 24F
這交易是挖東牆補西牆,加上WCS就虧太多了,越補越大
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06/13 09:25, , 26F
這樣換 我不知道我們未來的禁區在哪? 又要等後年嗎?
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06/13 09:26, , 27F
我已經放棄交易拿到大物了 頂多有場外疑慮的人物
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06/13 09:27, , 28F
Fultz很棒 用兩個樂透+任何都可以
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06/13 09:27, , 29F
除了蠟筆 Buddy WCS
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06/13 09:39, , 30F
丟WCS虧太大 而且今年開季WCS也才第三年 哪來的幾年
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06/13 09:40, , 31F
光是他進攻的成長幅度就很大了 打臉兩年前的球探評價
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06/13 09:54, , 32F
今年前十的水平都很棒了 Fultz像SG 而不是最缺的PG
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06/13 09:55, , 33F
傾向不換 而且表弟那年的5+10是表弟和喬治喔...
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06/13 10:59, , 34F
#5+#10 換 #1可以,但不能丟wcs
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06/13 10:59, , 35F
不要再說什麼國王的養成了,就連過去Joerger來之前國王都
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06/13 11:01, , 36F
很少把控衛養壞,這些年除了寂寞外其實沒有一個控衛是爛
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的,而且在別隊壞掉的控衛來國王還能修好
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06/13 11:03, , 38F
Ds試訓後身價應該會上來,五號籤是誰還很難說
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06/13 11:04, , 39F
看來兩方意見都有XD 個人覺得不值 DSJ的高光還比較讓我驚艷
06/13 11:04, 39F
還有 51 則推文
06/14 22:34, , 91F
隊有更好的人去扛某個位置不用偏偏要叫TE去扛那才叫惡搞
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06/14 22:35, , 92F
TE當時不管從一號打到三號都還是隊上該位置最穩定的,就
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06/14 22:36, , 93F
連傳到NBA板的打小前都能打到數據表現是聯盟小前鋒第十名
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06/14 22:38, , 94F
國王自己有問題是沒錯,可以說TE在錯的時間被國王選中運
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06/14 22:39, , 95F
氣差,但絕不是什麼惡搞,而且他後來常受傷和外線不好也
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06/14 22:40, , 96F
不能說是國王害的
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06/15 12:01, , 97F
拿一個都已經不在NBA的Ray來說養成不差...
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06/15 12:03, , 98F
我們當初對TE的期待也絕對不只這樣而已啊!拿TE去補洞然後
06/15 12:03, 98F

06/15 12:03, , 99F
說養成沒問題,是位置的關係。我怎麼覺得好像哪裡怪怪的
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06/15 12:21, , 100F
TE就是外線能力限制了他的生涯高度,如果真的是國王
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的問題那應該大家都搶著要簽來打SG,結果去鵜鶘還是
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06/15 12:21, , 102F
打SF,這是自身天賦缺陷,養成再強也救不起來
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06/15 14:47, , 103F
Ray養成不差的話不會在馬刺缺新血後場又偏弱還被丟
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06/15 14:49, , 104F
應該也不是說養成的問題 是本身眼光就不太好
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06/15 14:50, , 105F
Nik也被當賠錢貨丟
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06/15 16:03, , 106F
馬刺怎麼養怎麼用那是他們的事,Ray在國王的時候打得有很
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06/15 16:07, , 107F
差嗎? 再看仔細一點,其他位置我不否認,我就說控衛這個
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06/15 16:08, , 108F
位置,不管是撿的選的,國王有出幾個雷貨?
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06/15 16:09, , 109F
從頭到尾我就只說控衛,不要上綱到整個養成
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06/15 16:10, , 110F
嗯 光看PG這位置是滿OK的 這沒看清楚我的錯
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06/15 16:12, , 111F
首輪除了TE和寂寞,我想不起來我們還有選哪個控衛了@@?
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06/15 16:29, , 112F
J-will
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06/15 16:42, , 113F
我想問近幾年,畢竟養成不好的印象是近幾年造成的...
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06/15 16:45, , 114F
有打出成績的我只想得到TE和IT,但其實我們控衛好像也
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06/15 16:45, , 115F
選不多
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06/15 17:30, , 116F
TE我們沒養壞吧 只不過成長不如預期 加上他實在太容易
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06/15 17:34, , 117F
受傷 IT是60順位養成這樣也是逆天 除了寂寞跟Stauskas
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06/15 17:34, , 118F
真的很水以外 其他應該還算養的不差
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06/15 19:14, , 119F
如果不限後衛、莫忘Trob
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06/15 19:44, , 120F
寂寞就是防守爛得太誇張,進攻沒什麼問題,前幾年選秀
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06/15 19:44, , 121F
就是踩了太多地雷,很多到了別隊還是沒打出頭
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06/15 20:25, , 122F
我上面說啦,不管選的撿的,國王這些年養成雖然爛但控衛
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06/15 20:27, , 123F
很少雷過,自選的真正算失敗的也只有寂寞,撿來的原本已
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06/15 20:28, , 124F
經快流落海外的控衛國王也幾乎可以修好,這點從Udrih開始
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06/15 20:29, , 125F
到這季的泰勞嬸,不管教練是好是壞都有維持住
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06/17 02:30, , 126F
Nick不算水吧 在先發跟輪值球員上下 穩一點就先發了
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06/17 10:22, , 127F
Nik跟TRob不算國王養的,一季半季就送出去了的養成不能算
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06/17 10:23, , 128F
在國王上
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06/17 11:44, , 129F
TE在鵜鶘打SF是因為讓出空間給哈勒戴和古登
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事實上他在鵜鶘打的最好是取代哈勒戴擔任控球的時候
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