[外電] Knicks have championship formula

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Knicks have championship formula They're good enough and deep enough -- and they showed it against the Spurs By Ian O'Connor | ESPNNewYork.com Updated: January 4, 2013, 2:05 AM ET 原文:http://tinyurl.com/a5zlfc2 Jason Kidd stopped on his way out of Madison Square Garden to measure the championship worth of the New York Knicks, a franchise that last won it all seven weeks after the prehistoric point guard was born. It was the right night to do it, too, the night the Knicks again beat a San Antonio Spurs team that knows nothing about biblical NBA droughts. Only the 39-year-old Kidd wasn't asked about the Spurs' four titles over the past 14 years, four more than the Knicks have won since 1973. He was asked about the ring his Dallas Mavericks won two years back, and whether his current team could replicate the feat. 馬刺在過去的14個賽季裡奪得了4個總冠軍,尼克自從1973年以來沒有拿過一個總冠軍 ,但今天馬刺大比分輸給了尼克。 賽後有記者問基德兩個賽季前他在小牛奪冠的經歷 ,是否現在這支尼克也有可能重覆當年小牛的成功? "This team might be deeper than that one," Kidd told ESPNNewYork.com. “這支球隊也許比當年那支小牛來得更有深度,”基德說道。 Deeper than the Dallas team of Kidd, Tyson Chandler and Dirk Nowitzki that beat the Miami Heat in six. Kidd used his beautiful basketball mind to break down the matchups, starting with Nowitzki and Carmelo Anthony. "I mean, it's very similar," he said. "Melo and Dirk are your high-level players. You have J.R. [Smith] and Jason Terry. J.J. [Barea] is kind of like Pablo [Prigioni]. [Steve] Novak's like Peja [Stojakovic], a guy who can stretch the defense and knock down 3's. Tyson is Tyson." “我的意思是,這兩支球隊很類似,”基德繼續說道,“ 安東尼和諾維茨基是隊里裡 高水平的球員,然後你有 JR,小牛有特里,巴里亞有點類似老PP,諾瓦克就像佩賈, 一個能夠在場上拉開防守空間然後投進三分球的傢伙。 還有錢德勒,錢德勒就是他本 人。” And Kidd is Kidd, only two years smarter. 還有基德,比兩年前更加老練。 "Both teams can score and defend," he said. "Dirk defended, and that's what helped us win a championship, and that's what Melo's doing now. He's defending." “這兩支球隊都能得分也都會防守,”基德表示,“諾維茨基的防守幫助我們最終奪得 了總冠軍,這也是現在安東尼在做的事情,他現在就在貢獻著防守。 ” Kidd was asked if his Knicks could beat Miami and ultimately win the tournament like his Mavericks did. 有記者問基德,那麼尼克是否也能像當年的小牛一樣,最終打敗了熱火,在總決賽中成 功奪冠? "I hope so. That's the goal. That's what we're playing for," he said. "There's been a couple of stretches here that you can see as a very close reminder [of Dallas]. We had injuries that season, too, and nobody was thinking about a championship. We were just trying to figure out how to win a game without Dirk. “我希望如此,”基德回答道,“這是我們的目標,這就是我們打球的目的所在。我們 這支球隊有幾個方面確實讓人會想到那支小牛,那個賽季我們同樣經歷了傷病,沒有任 何一個球員腦子裡想著能得到總冠軍。我們只是力求找到怎麼樣能在沒有諾維茨基的情 況下贏得比賽的勝利。” "We've faced the same problem here with Melo out. But with our depth and the guys we have who know how to play, we feel it's very similar. We'll see at the end." “在安東尼休戰的時候我們也面臨同樣的問題,但考慮到我們擁有的深度,我們擁有的 球員都知道怎麼打球,我們感覺兩支球隊真的很像,等一切到了最後時我們再來見分曉 。” In the end Thursday night, the Knicks made a tough, old military man named Gregg Popovich cry uncle. The Spurs coach benched his dynasty makers in the fourth quarter when he realized the Tim Duncans and Manu Ginobilis and Tony Parkers "were a little low on fuel." Together they watched as the Knicks, in Popovich's words, "kicked our butt" and finished off their 100-83 victory and first two-game sweep of the Spurs since 2003. Enduring his fourth game in five nights, Popovich's substitutions won't earn him the $250,000 fine he absorbed after sending home his stars rather than put them through another four-in-five experience in Miami on national TV. But this surrender of a seven-game winning streak did speak to his newfound respect for the Knicks, who had come across as emotionally fragile and physically weak during so much of San Antonio's dominant run. Do you really think Pop would've been so quick to call it a night had the Knicks of Mike D'Antoni, Isiah Thomas, Larry Brown, Lenny Wilkens, or Don Chaney been on the other side? 作為對手,波波維奇稱讚了尼克在武僧手下提升了防守的質量。 "They're obviously a totally different group," Popovich said before he watched Mike Woodson's Knicks pound the Spurs on the boards (48-35) and give his selfless-to-a-fault team a lesson in sharing the ball (26 assists for the home team, 14 for the losers). "And by that I mean no matter what players have been added and changed or whatever, the mentality, the purposefulness with which they play, the attention to more defensive detail that I know Mike will demand day after day -- [the Knicks players] won't win that battle. They may try, but with Mike Woodson, he's going to demand it over and over again until people understand the value." “他們顯然是一支完全不同的球隊了,”波波維奇說道,“無論他們做了哪些人員上的 變化,精神上的東西很明顯,他們打球的目的性、對防守細節更加關注的特質,我知道 這些是武僧每天都會對他們強調的。” Woodson's commitment to defense, Popovich continued, "helped them become who they are. Offensively, they've got a lot of talent, but the defense is what makes you go some distance in the playoffs." 波波維奇繼續說道武僧的防守:“這能幫助他們成為他們想要的。在進攻端他們已經擁 有很多人才,但唯有防守才是在季後賽能走得更遠的關鍵。” Popovich might not have tweaked D'Antoni as conspicuously as Amar'e Stoudemire did in declaring he'd "never been taught defense in my whole career," but Pop came close enough. Not that Woodson cared. He only knew he'd seen what he called "some major slippage" in his team's play, some D'Antoni-styled slippage on the more violent side of the ball, and so he showed his players some tape Thursday morning to remind them of how they opened the season. The Knicks responded by blowing out an opponent Woodson called "the best team in basketball," and by extending their record to 10-0 when holding opponents to less than 90 points, 17-2 when holding them to less than 100. 武僧賽前把馬刺形容為現在全聯盟最強的球隊,但就是如此,尼克卻把他們打得落花流 水。本賽季當尼克把對手的得分限制在90分以下時,他們的戰績現在提升到了10勝 0負 。當尼克限制對手的得分不到100分時,他們的戰績是17勝2負。 "The Knicks have obviously changed a bit," Duncan said. "They're more defensive-minded." “尼克明顯有了很大的變化,”鄧肯說道,“他們在防守態度上更加強化了。” From Popovich on down to the core players who built his team into a monument to smart, do-whatever-it-takes basketball, the Spurs talked about the Knicks as if they were talking about themselves. Before the game, Popovich compared Kidd's dedication to Duncan's, and spoke of how the point guard infused the Knicks with "a real sense of what responsibility and professionalism is." After the game, Popovich referred to Kidd's relentless teammate in Dallas, Chandler, as "a monster who creates so many problems out on the floor and at the rim." 賽前波波維奇形容基德有著和鄧肯一樣的奉獻精神,稱讚基德向尼克灌輸了“一種真正 的責任感和職業精神。”賽後,波波維奇又大讚了基德在小牛時的老隊友錢德勒,稱他 是一個“在場上和籃筐附近製造出如此多麻煩的怪獸。” On his way out of the winners' locker room, Chandler notarized Kidd's comparison to their championship Mavericks team. "Especially with our depth," he said. "And with the talent and veterans we have on this team. 錢德勒也談到了基德把現在的尼克拿來和兩年前的小牛作對比的話題。“特別是我們的 深度,”錢德勒說道,“還有我們的天賦,還有我們隊裡擁有的這些老將。” No, these Knicks are not without their problems. Raymond Felton's injury has forced Kidd to cover the younger jets at the point, which is akin to asking an aging safety to play cornerback against a receiver who runs a 4.3 40. And if Stoudemire looked better off the bench in Game 2 than he did in Game 1, his reintegration into Melo's lineup remains an unsteady work in progress. But after Iman Shumpert's return gives them the necessary athletic bounce, the Knicks will be a staggeringly deep and diversified team with enough pieces to win it all. Of course, that doesn't mean they will win it all. 當然,尼克也有他們的問題,但是當香波傷愈回歸,尼克的深度又將得到提升,他們將 成為一支多樣化的球隊,他們將擁有足夠多的武器去一贏到底。 It only means that should be their goal, not a respectable best-of-seven loss to LeBron James in the conference finals. "The whole team," Popovich said of the Knicks, "Mike's got them being active, covering for each other, trusting each other." “尼克整個球隊,武僧讓他們充滿了活力,他們互相掩護,彼此信任,”波波維奇說道。 The Knicks have size, a title-hungry superstar, lethal 3-point shooters, an absurdly high IQ at the point (Prigioni is a poor man's Kidd), an explosive bench player in the backcourt (Smith), a potentially explosive bench player in the frontcourt (Stoudemire), and a coach who's connecting on a human level with his players. "We're pretty good," Chandler said. “我們真的很棒,”錢德勒說道。 They're better than pretty good. The Knicks have soundly beaten Miami with Melo and without him, and they've beaten San Antonio with Melo as a decoy on the road and with Melo as the leading man at home. All in all, Kidd said, this team might just be deeper than his Dallas team that beat LeBron. That doesn't guarantee the Knicks a ticker-tape parade. It just guarantees them a shot at one. 翻譯參考:http://sports.163.com/13/0104/21/8KDI43CT00051CA1.html 我只想說...你們不要只對強隊硬阿 XDD 平常防守也是很重要的阿 XD 想到前幾場尼克防守的鳥樣,不知道POPO他們有沒有覺得被球探報告陰了 XD -- ─── [[ =" ∵ ◆]] ────────── ▊◢◤ \ Once a Knicks, ▊◤ ▊ ◥◣▊ ◢◤◥ ▊◢◤‵、 ◤◢ always a Knicks. ▊◥◣ ▊ ▊ ▊ ◥◣ ─-.╳ ▊ ◥▎▊ ◤▊ ◥◣ ▊◥◣ ◣◥◣ ρ\ `, ψsherry821224 ─── ◥ ◥ | ────────── -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.242.18.110 ※ 編輯: skymay 來自: 111.242.18.110 (01/05 10:00)

01/05 10:01, , 1F
錢德勒就是他本人...........
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01/05 10:18, , 2F
我覺得馬刺的策略就是嚴防瓜,瓜只要一拿到到就被包夾伺候
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01/05 10:19, , 3F
而且武僧的招牌台詞:可以用強隊來試試球隊程度一出來後
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01/05 10:20, , 4F
就覺得可能會贏,上一次他這麼說是在季初打熱火時,結果贏了
01/05 10:20, 4F

01/05 10:43, , 5F
看上一場其他人都開不了花,其實我是有點怕,所以才說他們
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01/05 10:44, , 6F
不能依賴瓜,不然會贏不了球的 XD 因為馬刺很會鎖瓜瓜 XD
01/05 10:44, 6F

01/05 12:00, , 7F
Kidd說PP像JJ有點太客套惹.....擅長的技能恰好相反 XDDDD
01/05 12:00, 7F

01/05 12:06, , 8F
沒錯 從金塊以來 melo打馬刺都被popo搞的很慘....
01/05 12:06, 8F

01/05 12:07, , 9F
但我想也是因為popo很了解melo的一切才有辦法~
01/05 12:07, 9F

01/05 12:07, , 10F
因此反過來推 popo也許是最會用melo的教練了..
01/05 12:07, 10F

01/05 12:08, , 11F
為什麼POPO很了解瓜瓜? 他們之間應該沒什麼交集吧?
01/05 12:08, 11F

01/05 12:09, , 12F
我也不知道 但自melo進聯盟之後 不管季賽 季後賽 popo總是
01/05 12:09, 12F

01/05 12:09, , 13F
沒關係武僧跟POPO很像,NOVAK認證過了 XD
01/05 12:09, 13F

01/05 12:09, , 14F
有辦法搞定melo.....在全聯盟裡面 打馬刺特別明顯= =
01/05 12:09, 14F

01/05 12:11, , 15F
是喔 那瓜在金塊時打馬刺拿過最高分幾分阿?
01/05 12:11, 15F

01/05 12:11, , 16F
我覺得馬刺的包夾很到位,Melo根本沒有出手的空間...orz
01/05 12:11, 16F

01/05 12:12, , 17F
馬刺應該特別研究過了。幸好這場是多點開花...XDD
01/05 12:12, 17F

01/05 12:12, , 18F
我哪有在記他拿幾分...我只知道他以前被鬼禿拐子拐到不爽
01/05 12:12, 18F

01/05 12:13, , 19F
最後賞鬼禿一個惡意犯規 然後跟包溫也鬥了好幾次..
01/05 12:13, 19F

01/05 12:13, , 20F
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 差點忘了你是瓜黑,哪會管瓜拿幾分 XDDD
01/05 12:13, 20F

01/05 12:13, , 21F
但在包溫最後兩年 melo已經不帕包溫 吃他吃很爽..
01/05 12:13, 21F

01/05 12:14, , 22F
只要包夾沒上來 melo就把包溫磨到低位 包溫就守不住了..
01/05 12:14, 22F

01/05 12:14, , 23F
那我想問一下JR也跟馬刺有恩怨嗎? 他好像很愛對馬刺爆扣
01/05 12:14, 23F

01/05 12:15, , 24F
http://tinyurl.com/by97rvt ESPN數據資料庫可以查
01/05 12:15, 24F

01/05 12:15, , 25F
沒有吧 JR是瘋子啊....XD
01/05 12:15, 25F

01/05 12:16, , 26F
那變態亂說,說JR好像很討厭馬刺 XDDDDDDDDDDD
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01/05 12:17, , 27F
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01/05 12:17, , 28F
昨天 XD
01/05 12:17, 28F

01/05 12:21, , 29F
我來算一算melo歷年對馬刺的得分跟命中率..不過好像沒04-05
01/05 12:21, 29F

01/05 12:30, , 30F
20.6分 FG% .433 .....唉唷 比我想像中好一點點XD
01/05 12:30, 30F

01/05 12:30, , 31F
有破20分XD
01/05 12:30, 31F

01/05 12:37, , 32F
你這瓜黑 就只想著瓜瓜很爛 XDDD 不過這樣昨天23分有破平
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01/05 12:37, , 33F
均耶 XD
01/05 12:37, 33F

01/05 12:40, , 34F
那是靠出手數得來的呀XD
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01/05 12:42, , 35F
我就說嘛 melo今年得分不會少 出手也不會少
01/05 12:42, 35F

01/05 12:42, , 36F
賽前那些什麼melo降低出手的新聞 我都嘛不甩XD
01/05 12:42, 36F

01/05 12:43, , 37F
因為melo正確的使用方式就是少持球 多出手 多分球
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01/05 12:43, , 38F
這樣威脅性最大 本季大致上也是朝這個模式打 所以他爽到了.
01/05 12:43, 38F

01/05 12:44, , 39F
那是他不會講話自己惹禍... XD
01/05 12:44, 39F

01/05 12:45, , 40F
連拳王都吐他槽 XD
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01/05 12:52, , 41F
哈哈 耗呆病沒藥醫 ~
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01/05 12:53, , 42F
現在的尼克 我只希望在三月前能全員健康 才有辦法克服魔鬼
01/05 12:53, 42F

01/05 12:54, , 43F
三月 到四月就可以驗收本季完全體的威力了..
01/05 12:54, 43F

01/05 13:08, , 44F
三月的魔鬼賽程真的好可怕,要靠全員都健康才有辦法打的養
01/05 13:08, 44F

01/05 13:08, , 45F
生點 香波說他不是一月就是二月回來,整個有說等於沒說 XD
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01/05 13:56, , 46F
至少表示他不會拖到三月啊 XD
01/05 13:56, 46F

01/05 14:11, , 47F
香波回來再加上找狀態的時間應該要到3月才是正常的香波
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01/05 18:49, , 48F
香坡慢慢來也可以 三月再正常也OK 總之他一定會很棒的
01/05 18:49, 48F
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