[外電]Is Andrew Bynum a black hole??

看板Lakers (洛杉磯 湖人)作者 (kobe MVP)時間16年前 (2009/12/15 12:02), 編輯推噓36(36034)
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Examining Andrew Bynum’s post play is a task with several layers to it. On one hand you have a highly efficient post player whose ability to score on the low block is a highly coveted trait that any team would love to have. On the other hand, you have a team that runs a read and react offensive system where passing to (and from) the post is one of the main (and most effective) ways to initiate and create offense for other players because the post entry dictates a myriad of cuts and screens off the ball designed to get those players good shots. So, evaluating Bynum on the low block can be a bit tricky. As Bynum’s touches in the post have increased, he’s become more of a focal point in our offense. However, with that focus there is also the question of how he can be most effective when he has the ball and how he can most help the team. 我們可以從很多面向來研究一下安豬在低位的任務 首先,他是非常有效率的低位單打球員,NBA每支隊伍都很肖想的那種。 再來,在進攻時,依照目前湖人的戰術,安豬所在的位置正是球流動的地方    一個最適合發動進攻並製造進攻機會的位置。因為它同時是切入的入口,    也是為隊友掩護並製造投籃機會的好地方。 當安豬在這個位子摸球的機會增加,他就越會成為進攻的核心。 然而,若他接下這個重責大任 如何發揮最高的效率並提供整個球隊最大的幫助 就會是個問題了 First, let’s explore Andrew Bynum’s post game and how effective he truly is at scoring the ball. As you can see from the statistics, Andrew Bynum is a traditional (and quite effective) low post player. He takes 50% of his shots right at the rim with 86% of his shots coming from within ten feet of the basket. He is shooting 57% from the field with a TS% of 61.3%. Bynum, by any statistical measure, is showing an offensive potency that only a handful of other post players currently are. Plus, he’s getting more refined and is showing a smoothness and polish with a diverse attack. He has shown the ability post up on either low block, finish with both hands on his jump hook, and has exhibited a variety of counter moves where he use his defender’s aggression against him to create any easy opportunity to finish. He’s developed a very nice face up game where (if given space) he can shoot his developing jumpshot or (if crowded) can power dribble to either hand to explode and finish at the rim. He’s showing better footwork and a greater ability to feint moves to get opponents off balance and throw off their timing so he can make his finishing move that much easier. When it comes to offensive basketball, the guy is a beast. 先讓我們來看看安豬在低位的進攻效率 從這個統計數據中可以看出 (http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Andrew%20Bynum) 安豬是個非常有效率的傳統低位單打球員,他有50%的出手會直接攻擊籃框 並且有86%的出手是在距離籃框12英吋(約三公尺)的範圍內完成的 他FG%達57%,TS%更達到了61.3%(TS%簡單來說就是真正的投籃命中率,將罰球也列入考量) 顯示出他正居於聯盟進攻強權的地位。 此外,他越來越成熟、流暢,不斷地強化各種不同的攻擊手段。我們從他在背框單打、 左右手鉤射、虛晃步伐的展示就可以輕易的了解。 他的面框進攻也有所進步 如果獲得足夠的空間,他可以選擇跳投;如果太擠,他也能夠直接透過盤球往內壓 殺出一條血路,直接攻擊籃框。他越來越靈活的腳步及迷蹤步,可讓對手失去平衡 或製造出時間差,讓他的進攻可以更容易得手。 至於進攻籃板,這傢伙簡直是個怪物。 (看完這段,我以為作者在說三連霸時期的O'neal....= =) However, that ability to score effectively is really all Bynum is accomplishing when he has the ball in the post. Bynum averages 1.3 assists per game. His assist rate (% of possesions ending with an assist) is a paltry 7.5. Among Centers that play 25 minutes or more a night, that assist rate ranks Bynum 19th and places him right below Brook Lopez and Dwight Howard and right above Chris Kaman – not bad company as far as scorers go, but not really a great group of passing big men either. However, that 7.5 assist rate is quite poor when compared to other Centers on this list like Tim Duncan (15.93) and Marc Gasol (14.77). And Bynum’s rate is horrific when compared to teammate Pau Gasol (20.2, though listed as a PF). (On a side note, the player that leads the league in assist rate for PF’s that play 25+ minutes? Lamar Odom at 28.49) 然而,當安豬在這個位置持球時,他真正做到的還真的就是進攻。 談到助攻,他的場均是1.3個(這是今年的數據,生涯助攻是1.1) 助攻率(持球時用助攻結束進攻的比率)是7.5,在平均打了25分鐘以上的中鋒裡, 安豬排名19,僅次於籃網的Lopez跟魔術的Howard,高於快艇的Kaman。 與其他的中鋒比起來,例如叮噹肯(15.93%)、砲弟(14.77),7.5的助攻率並不及格。 跟砲哥(20.2%,雖然他現在列為大前鋒)比起來,更是顯得慘兮兮。 (在打了25分鐘以上的大前鋒中,助攻率領先群雄的是我們的大老二) 中午我有事要出門了.....我可以晚上再打完嗎? 對不起各位板友,讓我富堅一下XD 原文作者 Darius 原文出處 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/13/the-black-hole/ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.119.232.167

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頭推!
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我寫的 ??
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12/15 12:19, , 4F
推! 12英吋那邊應該是10英呎~10 feet(約三公尺沒錯)
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12/15 12:49, , 5F
三樓很逗趣
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12/15 13:04, , 6F
Is Andrew Bynum a wrong hole??
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12/15 13:08, , 7F
富奸:我一月就要畫了 別再念我
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12/15 13:12, , 8F
XD 往下一啦 結果富堅
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12/15 13:17, , 9F
是你爸寫的 還不跪下
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12/15 13:19, , 10F
Bynum必須學會傳球才行XD
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12/15 13:21, , 11F
之前就有板友分析過他球齡太少需要時間去學習目前進攻有進步
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12/15 13:21, , 12F
但是一堆人卻要他突然變成超級巨星什麼都要會是否強人所難
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12/15 13:22, , 13F
如果安豬想要學會傳球,前提是場上出現他非得傳球的情況
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12/15 13:22, , 14F
湖人又不是沒有時間等他成長他今年的腳步進攻手段難道沒進步
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12/15 13:22, , 15F
直到目前,安豬受惠於身邊有Kobe跟Pau,極少拿球瞬間被包夾
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12/15 13:22, , 16F
換句話說,安豬絕大多數的時間拿到球他都是一對一的情況
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12/15 13:24, , 17F
一對一,對安豬這種年輕球員來說,快點打掉對他來說是最好的
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12/15 13:25, , 18F
這也就是為什麼,其實湖人大部分時間當安豬在低位持球時
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12/15 13:25, , 19F
隊友大部分都不會做積極的空切動作,特別是Pau幾乎都是不動的
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12/15 13:25, , 20F
而是盡量站在弱邊或是三分線外,就是要讓安豬去做一對一
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12/15 13:26, , 21F
安豬什麼時候會學會傳球呢?等到對手開始受不了被他吃死之後
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12/15 13:27, , 22F
一拿到球就上下兩路包夾,安豬想不傳球都不行,那就是時候了
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12/15 13:27, , 23F
那種情況他就得學會怎麼找隊友、以及怎麼Re-Post拿回球單打
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12/15 13:28, , 24F
但是在那之前,我不認為需要去要求他像Pau那樣組織能力高超
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12/15 13:30, , 25F
最後推一下這篇文章,這篇是好文
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12/15 13:34, , 26F
推好文
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都是不動的<-----!? 因為嚇傻了嗎?
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第二段最後那句是說"談到進攻,安豬是隻獸"
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不是進攻籃板喔
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12/15 13:57, , 30F
buso是來亂得嗎...
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12/15 14:21, , 31F
同校推
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12/15 14:23, , 32F
以湖人這種陣容 我要求不多 平均15分8籃板就行
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12/15 14:26, , 33F
至於傳球 除非續約不到gasol 再來煩腦這個問題吧
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你要求不多但是我怎麼覺得湖人迷要求很多對他超高標準
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標準高到幾乎每一場細細拿出來檢視哪一場0助攻就是不會傳球
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12/15 14:29, , 36F
傳球的時機品質不能只有看助攻數....
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尤其是湖人的進攻系統不可能出現一個超強的助攻手
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12/15 14:31, , 38F
Nash,Paul,Kidd那種就是傳球很"到位""精準"
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但現階段湖人需不需要 Bynum "懂得"傳球
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雖然我很想要他"懂得"傳球 可是目前來看他還是當終結者好
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畢竟他的進攻效率太驚人 且隊上還有一堆人會吸引包夾
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12/15 14:34, , 42F
但如果日後他的持球和發動攻勢的比例增加
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那就絕對要很嚴格的正視他傳球能力的問題
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12/15 14:38, , 44F
贏球的時候大家都不會說什麼 輸球就什麼都出來了...
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12/15 14:39, , 45F
以他現在這樣實在沒有什麼好苛責的 進步很多了
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12/15 14:40, , 46F
蘇利控說的讓我聯想到之前對太陽 他們就是採包夾結果
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12/15 14:42, , 47F
被我們射死 助攻也不錯 但是呈現人人都有獎的情形
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12/15 14:44, , 48F
我想這呈現對方若只想純包雙塔 也是非常難的事
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12/15 14:45, , 49F
他的卡位跟老大的投籃三不五時就會成為盲點XDD
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12/15 14:47, , 50F
他的籃板都是被隊友抓走的 XDD
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12/15 16:15, , 51F
常常看到籃板下來他會讓給耶穌或老二,甚至老大......
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12/15 16:17, , 52F
目前來說我一點都不care他的傳球 我只擔心他展現出來的身體
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12/15 16:18, , 53F
跟爆發力 跟他07年的時候著實還有差距阿 不知道會不會恢復
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12/15 16:30, , 54F
我目前只挑剔Bynum的補防能力 他傷癒後補防速度還是有變慢
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12/15 16:31, , 55F
還有他情緒控管還是不太好 年輕人果然是年輕人阿 XD
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12/15 17:18, , 56F
說實話 我覺的得老大的情緒控管能力也不好
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12/15 17:22, , 57F
老大也只有在球隊落後的時候才會這樣吧,球拿著就隨便亂丟Orz
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Bynum現在應該真的是顧接球...其他部分太多人幫忙他了
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這樣子到底是好是壞我覺得還很難說 至少先讓他進攻更成熟
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12/15 17:30, , 60F
同校推!!
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12/15 17:45, , 61F
安豬又沒有隊上其他人那麼會吸怪,要他傳被包夾的KOBE嗎?
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12/15 17:46, , 62F
有人幫忙吸怪了~專心打進就好!!!
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12/15 18:21, , 63F
簡單說 先把傷害打出來 才有怎麼降仇恨的問題XD
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12/15 18:37, , 64F
如果我拿球可以直接得2分,那幹嘛傳球讓隊友來得那2分? XD
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12/15 20:34, , 65F
翻成安豬好難聽= =
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12/15 22:21, , 66F
好奇一下 既然那麼優秀 為什麼霸男的數據總是比耶穌遜了些?
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因為耶穌更優秀
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12/15 23:10, , 68F
奇怪了有人說霸男比耶穌好嗎但是他表現的也不差
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12/15 23:38, , 69F
進攻籃板是怪獸????
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12/16 01:48, , 70F
Bynum現在很強啊 但Gasol實在算是大前鋒界的奇才了
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