[討論] 簡單討論一下 關於湖人

看板Lakers (洛杉磯 湖人)作者 (Take a break ,ok?)時間16年前 (2010/04/02 21:50), 編輯推噓26(27156)
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我把昨天的比賽拿出來慢慢放 做記錄 ( 用英文比較方便 中文要打很久 ) 目前只做了第一節的 因為光一節就超多字 大家可以討論一下 連在一起的幾行 就是一個play... (x/24)就是最後出手的秒數 老鷹的部分 我只有打被得分的部分 還有 為什麼被得分 我們自己的部分 則是每一步都有記錄 這樣寫下來 發現....問題超級超級超級明顯.............................. BTW我也順便統計一下 這節 每人有效進攻持球時間 ( 扣除過半場 和 Reseting 的時間 ) Kobe 7+5+3+5+1+3+4+3+5+7 = 43 秒 Ron 3+1+3+1+1+1+4+2+2+4+2+4+1= 29 秒 Odom 6+4+2+2+4+1+2+1+3+3+1 = 27 秒 Gasol 1+8+5+2+3+1+6+2+3 = 31 秒 Fisher 1+1+4+1+1+1 = 9 秒 這邊可以發現到 Ron 真得很棒 ... 持球"次數"最多 但時間卻不是第一第二常的 感覺他已經漸漸在往去年Ariza終極強化版的路走去了 而KOBE跟GASOL持球的問題 KOBE拿球次數是10次 GASOL9次 拿不到球 ?? 一個禁區 一個外圍 持球次數這樣分配 已經算很平均了... 至於9秒那位....還記得上次看Latime他說 他只要還能打 明年還是會打... 實在是....................................繼續期待他會投進 今年的4.6秒吧 =================== 以下是無趣的紀錄文 黃標表示糟糕的play ================== 2010 Apr. 1st. Laker vs. Hawks 1st Q 11:55 Lo got Jump ball 11:52 Ron got the pass from Odom 11:49 Kobe got the pass from Ron and start post move 11:43 Hawks set a Double team on Kobe 11:42 Ron flash cut and got the pass from Kobe 11:41 Gasol got the pass from Ron and dunk score (7/24) 11:09 Gasol got the reb. and pass to Kobe 11:06 Kobe cross the half court line 11:05 Kobe stop at 3pt line start off. 11:03 Gasol set a screen for Kobe 11:00 Lo got a pass from Kobe 10:54 Fisher got a pass from Lo 10:53 Fisher shot and miss (8/24) 10:35 Bibby shot at mid-range on Gasol's Def. by Fisher's mismatch 10:26 Ron got the ball from fisher 10:23 Lo got the pass from Ron 10:19 Kobe got the pass from Lo and Set a iso. 10:16 Kobe shot and miss (10/24) 09:59 Lo stop at 3pt line and start off. 09:57 Fisher got the pass from Lo 09:56 Ron got the pass from Fisher 09:55 Fisher got the pass from Ron and cut in 09:51 Fisher lay up and score(9/24) 09:25 Bibby score at mid-range shot on Kobe's Def. for Fisher lose position 09:16 Lo stop at 3pt line and start off. 09:14 Lo cut in and lay up did not score (14/24) 09:06 Bibby 3pt shot and score in fast break on Ron's Def. 08:53 Odom cross the half court line and start off. 08:48 Gasol got the pass from odom on 3pt line 08:46 Kobe got the pass from Gasol at Low position 08:41 Fisher got the pass from Kobe 08:40 J.smith tip the pass from Fisher(5/24) 08:39 Lo got the side pass from Ron 08:35 Off. Foul on LO's iso. Off(2/24) 08:17 J.J. Jump iso.move and shot on Ron's def 08:11 Fisher on the 3pt line and start off 08:10 Lo got the pass from Fisher 08:09 Ron got the pass from Lo 08:08 Kobe got the pass from Ron 08:07 Kobe jump shot in mid-range and score (15/24) 07:43 Lo got the Def. Reb. 07:41 Lo cross the half court line 07:40 Lo stop from 3pt. line and start off. 07:38 Fisher got the pass from Lo and shot from 3pt line did not score (17/24) 07:25 Mav.(Hawks#24) shot on 3pt. line and score by fisher's missing 07:15 Ron cross the half-court line 07:12 Ron stop at 3pt line and start off. 07:11 Kobe got the pass from Ron 07:08 Kobe shot at mid-range jump shot and score (13/24) 06:48 Lo got the shot missing from JJ 06:47 Kobe got the pass from Lo 06:43 Kobe stop at 3pt line and shot did not score(20/24) 06:23 Hawk's got the off Reb by Gasol did not boxing out hardly 06:18 Bibby got the long off Reb by nobody box him out 06:09 J.smith score by postmove on Lo 06:05 Fisher got the ball from side 06:00 Ron got the pass from Fisher on 3pt line and start off 05:56 Gasol got the pass from Ron 05:48 Gasol score 2 and 1 by post move (8/24) 05:48 Gasol score 1 on free throw line 05:28 Lo got the Reb from Bibby's missing 3pt ( Big wide open by Fisher's double team on Hawk's#15 ) 05:22 Kobe got the pass from Lo on 3pt line 05:18 Ron got the pass from Kobe 05:16 Ron score in lay up (12/24) 04:53 JJ score 2 and 1by J.smith's nice pass 04:52 JJ didn't score on free throw line 04:51 Lo got the Reb. 04:47 Kobe got the pass from Lo on 3pt line 04:44 Gasol got the pass from Kobe 04:39 Kobe got the pass from Gasol in low post and dribble to the 3pt line 04:35 Kobe start iso. off 04:30 Kobe shot in mid-range shot and score (3/24) 04:10 Ron got the Def. Reb. 04:06 Ron score and 1 by fast break lay up(20/24) 04:06 Ron score 1 on free throw line 03:54 JJ score 3pt by Ron's missing 03:45 Ron got the pass from Fisher on 3pt line 03:41 Gasol got the ball from Ron 03:38 Gasol score 2 and 1 by Postmove(13/24) 03:38 Gasol didn't score on free throw line 03:26 Gasol got the Def. Reb. and pass to Kobe 03:21 Kobe stop at 3pt line and start off. 03:14 Kobe make a bad pass and got a turnover(13/24) 02:56 Crawford scroe by iso on Fisher 02:47 Odom stop at 3pt line and start off. 02:45 Ron got the pass from LO in lowpost 02:43 Ron got the foul on JJ and go to free throw line for 2(15/24) 02:43 Ron score 2 on free throw line 02:32 Evans score 2 by screen on SB 02:28 SB got the pass from side 02:24 SB stop on 3pt line and start off. 02:21 LO got the ball from SB 02:20 Gasol got the pass from LO 02:19 Lo got the pass from Gasol 02:14 Lo dribble to 45d. on 3pt line and start off. 02:11 Lo drive in and lay up ,but didn't score (8/24) 01:37 Crawford score long 3 pt shot on gasol ( missmatch ) 01:27 Lo got the pass on 3 pt line from SB and start off. 01:24 Kobe got the pass from Lo 01:24 Ron got the pass from Kobe 01:20 Ron shot and blocked by J.smith(13/24) 01:19 Lo got lose ball 01:18 Lo score 2 by following reb. and lay up (23/24) 00:58 Evans got the foul on Kobe and go to free throw line for 2 00:57 Evans score 2 on free throw line 00:52 SB got the pass from Lo on 3 pt line and start off. 00:47 Ron got the pass from SB 00:46 Gasol got the pass from Ron 00:40 Hawks Def. 3sec. violation 00:40 SB score 1 on free throw line 00:40 Gasol got the ball from side 00:38 Adam got the ball from Gasol 00:35 SB got the ball from Adam 00:30 Gasol got the pass from SB 00:27 Gasol make a turnover by bad pass 00:03 Crawford got fault on SB 00:03 Crawford got 2 point on the free throw line 00:03 SB got the side pass 00:005SB miss the long shot ( Lo is in huge wide open but that's fine ) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.132.59.166

04/02 21:52, , 1F
天啊!湖版出神人...推一個用心無比
04/02 21:52, 1F

04/02 21:52, , 2F
頭推~~原po很努力呢
04/02 21:52, 2F

04/02 21:53, , 3F
推用心
04/02 21:53, 3F

04/02 21:54, , 4F
所以請問超極明顯的問題是??
04/02 21:54, 4F

04/02 21:54, , 5F
帥喔
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04/02 21:55, , 6F
黃字看一看 會發現......有個人一直出現.....
04/02 21:55, 6F

04/02 21:58, , 7F
我覺得還好耶 fisher就是真的動位慢但積極還是在啦
04/02 21:58, 7F

04/02 22:00, , 8F
可是仔細看 除了他被單吃以外 還有很多被得分是...
04/02 22:00, 8F

04/02 22:00, , 9F
他被過之後 對友補防來不及 就被投進了 好幾球...
04/02 22:00, 9F

04/02 22:01, , 10F
才第一節.....= =
04/02 22:01, 10F

04/02 22:02, , 11F
還有那種幫忙DOUBLR TEAM沒什麼幫到 一傳出來 也不回
04/02 22:02, 11F

04/02 22:05, , 12F
但是farmar的防守更是令人不與置評...
04/02 22:05, 12F

04/02 22:07, , 13F
fisher我覺得可以穩定的貢獻20分鐘+經驗度是最適合的
04/02 22:07, 13F

04/02 22:08, , 14F
brown也是缺少了去年那種認真判斷 防守跟無頭蒼蠅一樣
04/02 22:08, 14F

04/02 22:10, , 15F
會不會明天突然看到莎莎上先發PG (幻想中...XD)
04/02 22:10, 15F

04/02 22:13, , 16F
FISHER在場上的效益已經逐漸被他的失誤抵銷了
04/02 22:13, 16F

04/02 22:14, , 17F
可是又找不到人補這個洞 瞧那群自幹至上的...
04/02 22:14, 17F

04/02 22:18, , 18F
去年老魚就已經是挖坑王 一樣穩穩先發
04/02 22:18, 18F

04/02 22:18, , 19F
老漁會一直保持健康可能是因為對手刻意的吧 lol
04/02 22:18, 19F

04/02 22:19, , 20F
突然希望老漁可以受傷個一兩場(狠心)
04/02 22:19, 20F

04/02 22:20, , 21F
今年的傷都在主力上 其他人都健康得很
04/02 22:20, 21F

04/02 22:21, , 22F
話說老漁也是主力唷...ㄎㄎㄎ(奸笑)
04/02 22:21, 22F

04/02 22:21, , 23F
Pau缺賽 Kobe指背踝 Ron-咖啡指傷 Odom肩傷
04/02 22:21, 23F

04/02 22:22, , 24F
天哪很用心
04/02 22:22, 24F

04/02 22:25, , 25F
肥雪:要當主力先發第一要務是健康 幾個大頭要向我學習(誤)
04/02 22:25, 25F

04/02 22:25, , 26F
看我又老又健康 一點不簡單
04/02 22:25, 26F

04/02 22:26, , 27F
原PO快去報名數據統計員,因為Luke要歸隊了,那位置出缺 XD
04/02 22:26, 27F

04/02 22:28, , 28F
對手PG:哎喲不小心打下去 對手教練:笨蛋 不要誤傷隊友
04/02 22:28, 28F

04/02 22:29, , 29F
這叫...無間道...
04/02 22:29, 29F

04/02 22:29, , 30F
因為肥雪一直被過 不然就無謂協防 很難有受傷機會
04/02 22:29, 30F

04/02 22:29, , 31F
看看Oden 有時候我蠻替Bynum擔心的.........0rz
04/02 22:29, 31F

04/02 22:30, , 32F
我們後衛群想想也蠻恐怖的 囧
04/02 22:30, 32F

04/02 22:38, , 33F
你還真有空XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXD
04/02 22:38, 33F

04/02 22:39, , 34F
肥雪的一秒鐘是因為他一拿了球就噴吧XD
04/02 22:39, 34F

04/02 22:44, , 35F
未看先推
04/02 22:44, 35F

04/02 23:06, , 36F
推 然後挑個小毛病 犯規是foul不是fault
04/02 23:06, 36F

04/02 23:08, , 37F
推 有耐心跟細心~
04/02 23:08, 37F

04/02 23:09, , 38F
所以不用再說傳不進去禁區 至少先發陣容傳的到~
04/02 23:09, 38F

04/02 23:09, , 39F
PP 我本來以為可以做完一場 結果才一節我就不行了XD
04/02 23:09, 39F

04/02 23:12, , 40F
囧 有點懶得去改了XDDD FOUL 一直念發凹屋 打出FAULT
04/02 23:12, 40F

04/02 23:22, , 41F
17706 中肯文
04/02 23:22, 41F

04/02 23:27, , 42F
你還真強大!
04/02 23:27, 42F

04/02 23:39, , 43F
我之前有想過,結果算了半節就放棄了,以後這專業就交給妳了
04/02 23:39, 43F

04/02 23:39, , 44F
好好做,很有前途底~~
04/02 23:39, 44F

04/02 23:43, , 45F
用心!!
04/02 23:43, 45F

04/02 23:43, , 46F
囧 我一節就放棄了XDDD 我覺得這要有人搭配...
04/02 23:43, 46F

04/02 23:43, , 47F
一人看比賽 一人專心打字
04/02 23:43, 47F

04/02 23:45, , 48F
-----------以下開放報名跟 LAKERsBryant 配在一起---------
04/02 23:45, 48F

04/02 23:47, , 49F
科科 要考試...今天做這種事 是自殺攻擊XDDD
04/02 23:47, 49F

04/02 23:50, , 50F
我想看一下自幹幫的持球時間...
04/02 23:50, 50F

04/02 23:52, , 51F
農夫第一節後面有上場 根本沒摸到求 摸女生有摸一次
04/02 23:52, 51F

04/02 23:52, , 52F
至於香濃就....
04/02 23:52, 52F
Brown 3+5+5+3 = 16 Farmar 根本還沒摸到球 摸女生 摸一次 = 3 可是 因為是第一節 香濃的 還可以看出一點端倪 其他人就不太準了 還有 一堆總版的一直說 我們為什麼講gasol軟 答案基本上就是 6:23 ~ 6:09 那邊 ※ 編輯: LAKERsBryant 來自: 220.132.59.166 (04/02 23:59)

04/03 00:01, , 53F
雖然只是小樣本 可是 已經夠點出湖人很多大問題了
04/03 00:01, 53F

04/03 00:02, , 54F
的確很花時間阿~之前我也想做傳球跟接球的次數
04/03 00:02, 54F

04/03 00:03, , 55F
超難的...
04/03 00:03, 55F

04/03 00:03, , 56F
其實難是難在 看比賽 轉文字 常常會發生 看到一半
04/03 00:03, 56F

04/03 00:03, , 57F
發現自己手怎麼沒在對 正在專心看比賽XDDD
04/03 00:03, 57F

04/03 00:04, , 58F
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04/03 00:05, , 59F
所以要下來看才有可能...現場記無法度阿
04/03 00:05, 59F

04/03 00:06, , 60F
對啊 我這場就是抓下來看的 我花了2小時多打一節..
04/03 00:06, 60F

04/03 00:14, , 61F
真好 網速太慢懶抓
04/03 00:14, 61F

04/03 00:17, , 62F
我擺一天才抓下來 囧 超久...
04/03 00:17, 62F

04/03 00:18, , 63F
算快了 莔
04/03 00:18, 63F

04/03 00:19, , 64F
昨天那個檔才7XX而已啊 不大
04/03 00:19, 64F

04/03 00:20, , 65F
話說我想問一下 前幾天總版有人說一個UsageRate
04/03 00:20, 65F

04/03 00:21, , 66F
這個數據到底是什麼啊 我在一堆地方都找不到這東西
04/03 00:21, 66F

04/03 00:21, , 67F
2K10的化學數據上也沒這東西...這東西常用嗎= =
04/03 00:21, 67F

04/03 00:23, , 68F
http://0rz.tw/3139Y 拉到下面
04/03 00:23, 68F

04/03 00:24, , 69F
講Gasol軟就跟講Kidd鳥是一樣道理
04/03 00:24, 69F

04/03 00:24, , 70F
大概看一下公式 這東西跟持球時間長短有關係嗎....
04/03 00:24, 70F

04/03 00:25, , 71F
有參考性
04/03 00:25, 71F

04/03 00:26, , 72F
恩 了解
04/03 00:26, 72F

04/03 00:27, , 73F
不全然啊. 那些都是可統計數據
04/03 00:27, 73F

04/03 00:32, , 74F
比如說一個PG拎著球很久但都沒幹有數據的事 數據不會說
04/03 00:32, 74F

04/03 00:38, , 75F
用心推~
04/03 00:38, 75F

04/03 01:07, , 76F
violing613 所提的狀況完全可以在香濃身上看到。
04/03 01:07, 76F

04/03 01:10, , 77F
最後再把球塞給kobe,讓他出手... 科科
04/03 01:10, 77F

04/03 10:36, , 78F
ken52039:17706 中肯文
04/03 10:36, 78F

04/03 10:36, , 79F
你要不要臉啊
04/03 10:36, 79F

04/03 10:37, , 80F
換了ID再自己推薦自己的廢文,以為大家都不知道?
04/03 10:37, 80F

04/03 11:10, , 81F
樓上不要太激動= =
04/03 11:10, 81F

04/03 11:41, , 82F
推一個用心
04/03 11:41, 82F

04/03 13:05, , 83F
Terminator99是在講什麼啊 不是很解XD
04/03 13:05, 83F

04/03 13:24, , 84F
補推一下LAKERsBryant大大的認真好文
04/03 13:24, 84F
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