[外電]Kobe vs MJ? 別鬧了
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作者: jack010101 (op) 看板: Test
標題: [測試] kobe
時間: Thu Apr 8 05:17:37 2010
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Kobe Bryant vs. Michael Jordan: Let's Give It a Rest
kobe和MJ比? 別鬧了
As the basketball community knows, Kobe Bryant signed a three year contract
extension worth 83.5 million dollars recently. In his final season of that
contract he will be making upwards of 30 million. Not a bad pay day.
有看籃球新聞都知道，Kobe最近簽了3年83.5M的約，在合約最後一年的薪水超過30M，實
在是個不錯的約。
Also, when that contract was signed, it spawned several articles that
mentioned Kobe Bryant in the same breath as Michael Jordan (for about the
345,897th time). Most of these articles may have been only to suggest that
with this extension, it allows Kobe to possibly tie or surpass Michael in
number of titles, but even so, we need to stop mentioning these two in the
same breath.
因為這個約，產生了大量拿Kobe來和MJ比較的文章(這問題大概已經討論30幾萬次了吧)，
大部份的文章指出Kobe已經接近或是和MJ平起平坐了，即使如此，我們還是別再說kobe和
MJ能夠拿來比較。
I will not cover up the fact that I am not Kobe's biggest fan, but I like to
think I am a bit more objective about Kobe's skill and legacy than delusional
Lakers fans are.
我承認我不是一個kobe迷，但我想我能比那些妄想症的kobe迷更客觀的看kobe的個人技巧
和傳奇性。
Kobe is one of the top ten players of all-time (the rest: 1. MJ, 2. Russell,
3. Wilt, 4. Kareem, 5. Magic, 6. Bird, 7. Oscar, 8. Olajuwon, 9. Shaq). He is
the most deadly clutch player in the game today, and one of the most deadly
to ever play the game. If my team is down by one with five seconds left in
the game, I want the ball in Kobe Bryant's hands over anybody else's in the
league. He's probably the hardest working, most intense superstar in the NBA.
In other words, the Mamba is a beast.
Kobe是NBA史上十大球星之一(其他還有 MJ、Russell、張大帥、賈霸、魔術強森、大鳥、
大O、歐拉朱旺、俠客)。他是當今球場上最有殺傷力的關鍵球員，如果我的隊伍在比賽最
後5秒落後一分，Kobe是全聯盟我最希望能夠來執行最後一擊的人，他最有可能完成高難
度的工作，他是NBA最強的superstar，或著我們說，這"黑色響尾蛇"真的是隻猛獸。
But Jordan-level beast? I think not.
但這猛到MJ的那種等級嗎？我不這麼認為。
The thing is, many people who do compare Kobe to Jordan are not just
suggesting that he will or can catch Jordan in number of titles, they suggest
that Kobe can become the greatest basketball player to ever live. They say
Kobe has more pure "skill" than Jordan ever had. Somebody tell that to Jordan
or anybody who played against him.
事實上，很多拿Kobe來和MJ比的人把重點放在Kobe未來可能比MJ拿到更多的得分王、MVP
、冠軍戒這些獎項，他們認為Kobe單純的以球技來說比MJ更強。除了MJ以外，這些還可以
用在任何拿來和Kobe比較的人身上。
I'm here to debunk the myth that Bryant can ever reach Jordan level status.
讓我在這裡把這個說Kobe和MJ在同一個等級的假象釐清。
Reason One: Statistics
理由一：數據
Jordan's overall career statistical line is one of the most impressive in NBA
history- 30.1 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 5.3 apg, 2.3 spg, 0.8 bpg, 49.7 FG percent, 83.5
FT percent. Compare that to Kobe Bryant's career stats so far—25.3 ppg, 5.3
rpg, 4.7 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.6 bpg, 45.5 FG percent, 83.8 FT percent. Unless I'm
reading those lines incorrectly, Jordan has a statistical edge in point,
rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, and field goal percentage. And Jordan
could still end up with a better free throw percentage than Bryant, while it
will be near impossible for Kobe to catch Jordan in any of the other
categories.
MJ的生涯數據30.1分 6.2籃板 5.3助攻 2.3抄截 0.8火鍋 FG49.7% FT83.5%。目前為止
Kobe的生涯平均：25.3分 5.3籃板 4.7助攻 1.5抄截 0.6火鍋 FG45.5% FT83.8%。除了罰
球以外MJ目前贏了所有項目，而就未來來看Kobe都很難追上MJ的數據，甚至還有可能連
FT%都被超過。
Kobe apologists will point out that Kobe came into the league at age 18 and
Jordan was already well seasoned after playing three years of college ball
under a legendary college coach. But take this into account: Jordan missed
nearly all of his second season with injury (he averaged 37.1 points per game
the following year), didn't play for almost two complete seasons in the prime
of his career, and came back for two sub-par (by Jordan standards) seasons at
the tender age of 38 (he still averaged a 21-5-6). All three of those things
hurt his career averages rather significantly. More significantly than Kobe
having to develop for a few seasons before moving into a more major role?
That is hard to judge.
Kobe的擁護者會指出這是因為Kobe18歲就進聯盟，而MJ在一個傳奇大學教練手下打了三年
大學籃球。但事實上MJ在他生涯第2季比賽幾乎因傷整季缺席(那時他有場均37.1分的數據
)，還有在他生涯頂峰的時候休息了兩年，還有他第2次復出時，他已經38歲(還有平均
21-5-6)。即使這三件事的影響，他的生涯數據還是這麼神。神成這樣的數據應該不輸
Kobe初進聯盟前幾年的適應期這個理由吧？
Reason Two: Alpha Dog Status
理由二：領袖性
Michael Jordan was the clear No. 1 guy one every single one of those Bulls
championship teams. His six NBA Finals MVPs back that up. Kobe was the number
two guy on three of his four title teams, bringing home Finals MVP only once
(with Shaq winning back-to-back-to-back Finals MVPs). Was Kobe the best
number two option on a title team in NBA history? Quite possibly. But he was
not the best player on any of those three-peat Lakers teams.
MJ很明顯的是公牛隊的領袖，他的六座NBA Finals MVP可以見證，而Kobe在他的四次冠軍
裡，有三次是在Shaq領軍下他只能算是球隊第2人，也只有一次NBA Finals MVP(還是跟
Shaq同隊)，或許可以說他是NBA史上最好的球隊第2人，但他在湖人三連霸時的確不是那
個球隊第一人。
It seems like most people seemed to agree that Jordan was the alpha dog of
the NBA, rewarding him with five Most Valuable Player awards (and probably
should have been more). Kobe Bryant has one.
似乎大家都認同了MJ是NBA史上最有領袖性的人了，畢竟他拿了5次季賽MVP，而Kobe只有
一次。
Jordan became the fourth guard to win the Defensive Player of the Year award.
Only one other guard has won it since (Gary Payton). Jordan also led the
league in steals three times.
MJ是第四次出現以後衛身分拿下最佳防守球員的人，在他之前只有Gary Payton做到過，
MJ曾經得過三次聯盟抄截王。
Jordan won the NBA scoring title ten times. In an eleven year stretch, the
only time Jordan did not win the scoring title was when he came back from his
baseball project and only played in 17 games. So essentially Jordan won 10
scoring titles in a row (he also had the led the league in total points as a
rookie). That's pretty telling about who the most dominating player in the
league was over that stretch.
MJ拿過10次NBA得分王。在他生涯中間連續的11年裡，唯一一次沒有拿到得分王是他從棒
球場上回來的時候，那年他只出賽17場。所以實質上MJ是連續拿了10個得分王，所以在那
段期間裡誰是聯盟最有支配力的人應該不難說吧？
How many scoring titles has Kobe won? Two. He won zero titles during those
two years. Jordan won the scoring title every year that he won a championship.
Kobe拿了幾次得分王？兩次。在那兩年球隊都沒得冠。MJ奪冠的每年都是得分王。
Dominance and Michael Jordan are synonyms. Kobe Bryant doesn't quite qualify
"支配"和MJ差不多是同義字，Kobe還沒有那麼夠格。
Reason Three: LeBron James
理由三：LBJ
There is a huge obstacle standing between Kobe Bryant and the minimum of two
titles he needs to start being compared to Michael Jordan. That obstacle is
the 6'8" 250+ mountain that is the soon to be back-to-back NBA MVP, LeBron
James.
除了Kobe少少的兩座得分王以外，還有一個大障礙在他和MJ之間。6'8" 250+的小山，即
將連莊NBA MVP的男人，LBJ。
LeBron has built the Cavs into a powerhouse, and for the second straight
season they are on pace to easily capture the league's best regular season
record.
LBJ的加入使得騎士隊成為一支勁旅，連續兩季使騎士隊輕鬆取得季賽冠軍。
There is an argument on whether James or Bryant is the best player in the
league, but Jordan certainly never had anything like LeBron standing in his
way of winning NBA title after NBA title.
似乎很難說LBJ和Kobe誰是當今聯盟最好的球員，但MJ很明顯的沒有讓其它人像LBJ阻礙
Kobe一樣阻礙他贏得各種獎項。
Charles Barkley? Please. Karl Malone? Get real. LeBron's ceiling is a top ten
or top five player in NBA history, something none of Jordan adversaries
(besides Hakeem, whose team never peaked when Jordan's Bulls were at their
apex) could ever claim.
巴克利？馬龍？別開玩笑了。LBJ的薪資是史上前5或是前10高的，這種是根本不會發生在
MJ的對手身上。
If I had to bet, who wins more titles in the next five years, I would bet on
LeBron in a heartbeat. Kobe and the Lakers will not improve drastically over
the next few years, and LeBron and his Cavs are only getting better.
要是讓我賭未來5年內誰會拿下比較多座的冠軍，我可能會選LBJ。Kobe和湖人隊未來幾年
內不會有什麼大進步了，而LBJ和騎士隊只會變得更強。
Kobe has had his 30th (and 31st) birthday and Pau Gasol is starting to get
into the latter part of his prime. Ron Artest is going to waste away to
nothing in the next few seasons.
Kobe已經超過30歲了，而Gasol也開始進入他生涯顛峰的最後階段，Ron Artest也會在再
來幾季裡越來越弱。
The only hope the Lakers have to hold off the Cavaliers impending dynasty is
that Andrew Bynum develops into the player they expect he could eventually be
or if they flip Bynum or another key player for a true superstar in a
blockbuster deal.
湖人隊阻止騎士王朝發生的最後希望寄託在Bynum身上或是有什麼轟動的superstar的交易
。
If the Cavaliers win the title this summer, Kobe's hopes of catching Jordan
might disappear.
如果今年夏天騎士奪冠，Kobe追上MJ腳步的希望大概就沒了。
Kobe Bryant is not Michael Jordan. He will never be as good or successful as
Michael Jordan. I know most knowledgeable basketball fans would tend to agree
with that statement, but for the one percent of the people who do not, please
wake up.
Kobe不是MJ，他永遠都不會和MJ一樣強一樣成功，我相信大部分有見識的球迷們都會同意
，但有少部分的人還不相信，醒醒吧。
Even if Kobe wins three more titles (with Finals MVP's in each), three more
MVPs, and three more scoring titles his resume still wouldn't be up to the
level of Jordan's. And if he does do all of those things, then it will be a
huge shock to me and the basketball world considering he will celebrate his
32nd birthday this summer.
就算Kobe再贏幾個總冠軍幾個Finals MVP幾個MVP幾個得分王，他還是不會到MJ那個層級
，就算在加上今年夏天得到總冠軍
Kobe vs. MJ? Let's give it a rest.
kobe和MJ比? 別鬧了
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