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Re: [閒聊] 先簽後換限制

看板Lakers (洛杉磯 湖人)作者 (Fundamental)時間13年前 (2013/04/30 19:11), 編輯推噓8(8推 0噓 19→)
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※ 引述《kobeslaker (It's the end to me)》之銘言： : ＞從 2013-14 賽季開始，先簽後換的「接收方」，在交易完成之後，團 : 隊薪資不得高於豪華稅限制4M。 這一條我有點疑義，我找了一下 Larry Coon的原文： ‧Starting in 2013-14, the team receiving the player cannot be above the "apron" ($4 million above the tax level) after the trade. 然後底下的附註寫的是： Starting in 2013-14 if a team acquires a player in a sign-and-trade, the apron ($4 million above the tax line) effectively becomes a hard cap for the remainder of that season. 我目前還不確定這裡所謂的receiving player指的只有簽新約的球員，還是在交 易中得到的任何球員都算。 簡單來說，就是湖人能不能夠先簽後換DH的差別。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.4.209
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04/30 19:12, , 1F
可以丟S&T 但不能收S&T 簡單明瞭
04/30 19:12, 1F
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04/30 19:14, , 2F
所以湖人還是可以玩先簽後換
04/30 19:14, 2F
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04/30 20:13, , 3F
真難懂.......@@
04/30 20:13, 3F
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04/30 20:37, , 4F
為什麼要這樣規定啊
04/30 20:37, 4F
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04/30 20:39, , 5F
就限制豪門球隊挖人啊
04/30 20:39, 5F
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04/30 22:22, , 6F
超過上限還能補強球隊就對小市場很不公平阿
04/30 22:22, 6F
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04/30 22:42, , 7F
請看總版 #1H9nQ80m 遭過apron不能收「球員」, 指的是要被
04/30 22:42, 7F
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04/30 22:42, , 8F
先簽後換的那一位
04/30 22:42, 8F
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05/01 05:27, , 9F
所以我上文才提到，薪資沒破表，可以收S&T，還有些競爭力的
05/01 05:27, 9F
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05/01 05:28, , 10F
只有小牛和老鷹，先決條件還是魔獸肯去, 所以我想幫護航的
05/01 05:28, 10F
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05/01 05:29, , 11F
h桑，還要多yy一下如何弄兩個頂級籃領，省下錢救後場
05/01 05:29, 11F
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05/01 09:13, , 12F
問題是DH為什麼要幫湖人爭取S&T, 對他個人沒啥好處
05/01 09:13, 12F
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05/01 09:14, , 13F
甚至會降低他未來要去的球隊的競爭力 對他有實質壞處
05/01 09:14, 13F
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05/01 09:20, , 14F
新版勞資協議有改過了
05/01 09:20, 14F
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05/01 09:22, , 15F
這邊講的都是新版的
05/01 09:22, 15F
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05/01 09:23, , 16F
不用S&T，Dwight直接以FA身分跟他隊簽合約會少很多錢
05/01 09:23, 16F
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05/01 09:23, , 17F
每年薪資上揚比例少很多，合約長度也少一年
05/01 09:23, 17F
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05/01 10:50, , 18F
新版CBA S&T跟一般FA都是四年, 每年漲幅都是4.5%
05/01 10:50, 18F
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05/01 10:50, , 19F
完全沒有差別
05/01 10:50, 19F
沒錯。以DH的case，要S&T幾乎可說是完全沒有必要。 Under the current CBA a player receives the same contract via sign-and-trade (four years, 4.5% raises) that he could get by signing with his new team directly, and can receive a larger Bird contract only if he stays with his previous team. In addition, it is much simpler for the player to sign directly with his new team, as a sign-and-trade has to be agreed to by three parties rather than two. A player is really only forced to seek a sign-and-trade if he wants to go to a team that is capped-out (or doesn't have enough cap room to give the player his full starting salary) and can't sign him directly. ※ 編輯: spurs2120 來自: 140.112.25.97 (05/01 11:46)
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05/01 12:46, , 20F
重點是不S&T DH自己選擇很少
05/01 12:46, 20F
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05/01 12:50, , 21F
似乎只有小牛跟騎士 DH說不想回亞特蘭大老家
05/01 12:50, 21F
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05/01 13:27, , 22F
火箭也有能力直接簽DH喔..把T-ROB送人換簽就可以...
05/01 13:27, 22F
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05/01 20:08, , 23F
DH自己選擇少？明明一堆球隊哈DH 是湖人選擇少 很被動
05/01 20:08, 23F
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05/01 22:38, , 24F
哈 也要有空間阿 光哈有用
05/01 22:38, 24F
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05/01 23:40, , 25F
DH的選擇的確很少阿...
05/01 23:40, 25F
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05/01 23:41, , 26F
重點本來就是不是S&T的漲幅阿 是鳥權啊！
05/01 23:41, 26F
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05/03 20:15, , 27F
DH S&T for Bird rights 應該是要給每年可跳脫頂約吧
05/03 20:15, 27F
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