Re: [外電] some news Mike D'Antoni 賽季摘要 下

看板Lakers (洛杉磯 湖人)作者 (點滴的流逝)時間13年前 (2013/05/13 17:40), 編輯推噓97(1036192)
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Mike D'Antoni 賽季摘要 下 http://tinyurl.com/bmqwqtd How much of the turnaround should be credited to D'Antoni? He adjusted his vision to his roster, kept the team playing despite falling eight games below .500 -- all while facing multiple injuries. 多少的成功扭轉應該要歸功給D'Antoni呢? 他調整他球員輪值的期待,讓球隊繼續奮戰 不管當時要上五成勝率還有著八場的差距,同時還得面對許多球員的傷勢. Was it a case of the players taking over and coaching themselves? It's a common question from fans but an unrealistic one -- although the players certainly had a say in changing the style of play. 這些成果是球員主導跟自己當教練地原因嗎? 這是個很常見的問題,但不是個很實際 的問題. 雖然球員都會說他們改變了球風. When the Lakers needed two final wins, after Bryant was out for the season, the team beat both the Houston Rockets and Spurs. Bryant was the driving force for the Lakers' second-half charge but what coach is better than the players on the floor? 當Bryant倒下,湖人還需要最後的兩場勝利. 湖人擊敗了馬刺跟火箭. Bryant是這隻 湖人的下半場反攻主要動力. 然而那個教練比場上的球員還好呢 Did D'Antoni, who had 32 games of confusion, injuries and inconsistent play, prove himself over the final 40 that he's the right guy for the job? Did he take too long to adjust to the roster he had? What's the appropriate number of games for a coach to come in without training camp, fresh off of his own knee surgery, with a broken-down, injured roster? D'Antoni 經歷了32場困惑,傷病與不穩定的表現. 是否在最後40場證明了他是對得 "那個湖人教練" 還是他花了太長時間調整球員名單. 適合評估一個教練的比賽 場數為何呢?特別是在沒有訓練營,自己也剛從膝蓋手術恢復,加上受傷崩潰的球員 輪值名單的狀況下. Public perception might suggest D'Antoni be defined by his failure to immediately get results with the Lakers, along with his shaky track record in New York as coach of the Knicks. 大眾的認知方面, 覺得D'Antoni他的個人失敗,馬上反應到湖人本季戰績. 就像他在紐約尼克隊時搖搖欲墜的表現. A more-reasoned view would give him some of the credit for the team's turnaround. At worst, D'Antoni should get an incomplete mark for a strange, strange season. 更理性的觀點則會因為他帶領球隊轉變而給些分數. 至少在這非常詭異的球季 他也應得些類似未完成的評語 He may be a championship-level coach but to date he's not since the closest he's come to the NBA Finals is making two Western Conference championship series with the Nash-led Phoenix Suns. 他也許是總冠軍級別的教練但目前他還不是.因為他頂多晉級兩次西區冠軍賽,這還是 Nash 所領導的鳳凰城太陽隊. General Manager Mitch Kupchak has made it clear the team has every intention of keeping D'Antoni next season. Bryant's status is a question mark with the Achilles' tendon injury. Howard, a free agent, has yet to reveal his intentions. GM Mitch Kupachak說得很清楚,下個球季一樣會把D'Antoni留下. Bryant的阿基里斯腱 恢復狀態還是個問號. 自由球員Howard 則還沒表明他的意向. Given the backlash the team received for not hiring Jackson in the first place, they're stuck with D'Antoni until Jackson takes a position with another team, likely in basketball operations. If they fired D'Antoni and didn't hire Jackson any sooner, they'd be right back in the same situation with the next coach. 鑑於大眾對球隊的反彈,這是因為球隊一開始沒有找Phil Jackson, 卻找了D'Antoni造成. 然而這情況在Phil還沒在其他球隊任職之前不會停止. 假使他們解僱了D'Antoni 又沒儘快再找回Jackson的話,這樣的反彈也可能出現在下一個教練身上. Of course, if they changed course and brought Jackson back, that'd be an entirely different story, but the Lakers have apparently moved on. 當然,如果他們改變方向而把Jackson帶回來. 這可能就是另外一個故事了. 但湖人明顯地已向前邁進 終於翻完了 Sigh 各位觀眾也來給Mike D'Antoni評分下吧 XD -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 122.116.154.193 ※ 編輯: rockywu 來自: 122.116.154.193 (05/13 17:40)

05/13 17:42, , 1F
撇開他是跑轟大師不說,他好像一點都不適合湖人吧..
05/13 17:42, 1F
※ 編輯: rockywu 來自: 122.116.154.193 (05/13 17:47)

05/13 17:57, , 2F
早就說 跑轟啥的 會適合現在的老頭湖人嗎?
05/13 17:57, 2F

05/13 17:58, , 3F
當初說 他帶領的太陽隊 跟現在老頭湖人 步調差多少!
05/13 17:58, 3F

05/13 17:58, , 4F
會說 他適合這群老頭湖人的 看球看幾年都白看了嗎?
05/13 17:58, 4F

05/13 18:07, , 5F
可是他也好久沒打跑轟了阿...
05/13 18:07, 5F

05/13 18:25, , 6F
不管如何 下半季真的打不錯 可惜最後傷光光
05/13 18:25, 6F

05/13 18:44, , 7F
會說禪師更適合才奇怪吧?光三角都廢光了怎麼打
05/13 18:44, 7F

05/13 18:45, , 8F
再者,找上MDA很大原因是Nash,當初希望打擋拆為主
05/13 18:45, 8F

05/13 18:46, , 9F
MDA確實有調度問題,但就因為這樣說他不適,也太過了
05/13 18:46, 9F

05/13 18:47, , 10F
二樓說得對 真的是跑轟啥的不適合湖人 所以後來MDA就不
05/13 18:47, 10F

05/13 18:47, , 11F
跑轟了
05/13 18:47, 11F

05/13 18:57, , 12F
有Tex Winter的三角才是最強的 只找來禪師就會比較強這
05/13 18:57, 12F

05/13 18:57, , 13F
種思維真的頗好笑 而且DH打三角能不能理解還是問題
05/13 18:57, 13F

05/13 18:58, , 14F
看看MWP打三角的慘樣 DH如果也是無法理解三角 那不就慘
05/13 18:58, 14F

05/13 18:58, , 15F
兮兮?
05/13 18:58, 15F

05/13 19:01, , 16F
說他不適絕對沒錯 找他來 是想打出檔拆~
05/13 19:01, 16F

05/13 19:02, , 17F
這季檔拆完全沒打出來 等於失敗的一季~~~~
05/13 19:02, 17F

05/13 19:02, , 18F
檔拆沒打出來的話 就根本沒理由找MDA當總教練了~
05/13 19:02, 18F

05/13 19:04, , 19F
而且 以39歲的nash 為主軸 找來mda 也很怪 這年齡...
05/13 19:04, 19F

05/13 19:05, , 20F
至於禪師 不能說 三角一定打得出來 但最慘就這樣了~
05/13 19:05, 20F

05/13 19:05, , 21F
沒打出檔拆的mda 倒不如用 不知道能否打出三角的禪師
05/13 19:05, 21F

05/13 19:16, , 22F
樓上你邏輯有問題嗎,打不出三角的禪師跟打不出擋拆的冷
05/13 19:16, 22F

05/13 19:18, , 23F
笑話不是一樣,你怎麼肯定禪師能帶領湖人打出70趴的
05/13 19:18, 23F

05/13 19:18, , 24F
勝率
05/13 19:18, 24F

05/13 19:23, , 25F
這季MDA本來就沒在打跑轟 還在那說跑轟不適合湖人這類廢話
05/13 19:23, 25F

05/13 19:31, , 26F
別無腦噓了~ 我說最慘就這樣 看不懂嗎???
05/13 19:31, 26F

05/13 19:32, , 27F
而且 你自動腦補 禪師來 一定打不出三角...有夠無言
05/13 19:32, 27F

05/13 19:33, , 28F
不講跑轟,他擅長的檔拆沒打出來 他就是失敗的教練
05/13 19:33, 28F

05/13 19:54, , 29F
怎麼跑轟啦 這是一群老人耶
05/13 19:54, 29F

05/13 19:54, , 30F
湖人主要還是薪資卡死 沒法找人補洞 以本季大將輪流受傷
05/13 19:54, 30F

05/13 19:56, , 31F
找禪師來也只是找來多一個人罵而已 而且代價非常高昂
05/13 19:56, 31F

05/13 19:57, , 32F
連球隊經營權都要給 確實還不如找MDA將就過這幾年
05/13 19:57, 32F

05/13 19:59, , 33F
MDA中規中舉 沒啥不好 至少比MB好 賽前全輸季初一輪連敗
05/13 19:59, 33F

05/13 20:02, , 34F
MDA最大的敗筆是疑似操爆kobe 但其實這是Kobe自己要求的
05/13 20:02, 34F

05/13 20:19, , 35F
所以你的禪師最慘就這樣是怎樣?不要只會在那裏講屁話
05/13 20:19, 35F

05/13 20:20, , 36F
禪師最慘就這樣是哪樣你知道?那我也能說MDA最慘也就這
05/13 20:20, 36F

05/13 20:20, , 37F
樣 你這樣講法跟某個hxxz的大屍有何分別?
05/13 20:20, 37F

05/13 20:21, , 38F
而且你講的根本是馬後炮 用結果來推斷未知 今天換成是
05/13 20:21, 38F
還有 223 則推文
05/14 21:19, , 262F
用MDA是X所以Phil就是O這種低次元的二分法來判斷事物
05/14 21:19, 262F

05/14 21:33, , 263F
其實季末Kobe,Nash跟雙塔擋拆已經有個形出來了
05/14 21:33, 263F

05/14 21:33, , 264F
上面會說整年都沒擋拆我覺得頗意外
05/14 21:33, 264F

05/14 21:51, , 265F
反正MDA不會是湖人的解答 但是暫時也不可能換帥
05/14 21:51, 265F

05/14 21:51, , 266F
就等著看戲吧 爭論太多也沒意義
05/14 21:51, 266F

05/14 22:14, , 267F
如果知道這季最後是這樣,說不定還會後悔砍掉MB呢 XD
05/14 22:14, 267F

05/14 22:23, , 268F
國外也有文章說MDA非戰之罪 還在那邊講支持MDA只有湖板
05/14 22:23, 268F

05/14 22:23, , 269F
球迷 別只活在PTT裡面了吧 BIF大大
05/14 22:23, 269F

05/14 22:33, , 270F
什麼聲音都有吧,爭這個沒意義,彼此尊重,展望下季吧
05/14 22:33, 270F

05/14 22:52, , 271F
今年又沒選秀籤,留MB大概季初崩潰然後墊底到季末
05/14 22:52, 271F

05/14 23:07, , 272F
BIF不知道是哪隻酸酸的分身 在總版倒是反串湖迷很勤
05/14 23:07, 272F

05/14 23:16, , 273F
因為禪師來就改善 我認真回你~ 大牌間的磨合!!
05/14 23:16, 273F

05/14 23:16, , 274F
今天nash 抱怨 AJ抱怨 GASOL抱怨~ 一個教練帶到
05/14 23:16, 274F

05/14 23:17, , 275F
全隊有三個人都在抱怨了 他還算是及格的嗎?
05/14 23:17, 275F

05/14 23:17, , 276F
他沒那本事 就別來接湖人教頭 這趟混水~~~
05/14 23:17, 276F

05/14 23:18, , 277F
多理他只是多讓他高潮而已
05/14 23:18, 277F

05/14 23:27, , 278F
為什麼不能投大公司履歷...
05/14 23:27, 278F

05/14 23:45, , 279F
B大何不發一篇文教訓教訓我們呢^^
05/14 23:45, 279F

05/15 00:57, , 280F
好像以前大歐跟KB就沒罵過PHIL一樣
05/15 00:57, 280F

05/15 02:20, , 281F
題外話 Kobe剛在臉書PO了他阿基里斯腱手術時的照片....
05/15 02:20, 281F

05/15 02:22, , 282F
我也看到了0.0
05/15 02:22, 282F

05/15 06:17, , 283F
一堆新來的,都忘記Tex Winter退休帶到的影響,Phil比較像
05/15 06:17, 283F

05/15 06:18, , 284F
帶心,Tex Winter才是戰術的真正精髓(三角也是他發明的),
05/15 06:18, 284F

05/15 06:19, , 285F
湖人築二年連霸,就看的出來Kobe得狂刷無雙,才得力挽狂瀾
05/15 06:19, 285F

05/15 06:19, , 286F
後面的故事大家都知道,MDA也許不是最好的,但找個牌子小點
05/15 06:19, 286F

05/15 06:20, , 287F
的,我相信鄉民的炮聲更大,反正出張嘴就好
05/15 06:20, 287F

05/15 07:02, , 288F
BIF發一篇專業文吧 反串也要有專業性或者整理資料的能力
05/15 07:02, 288F

05/15 11:09, , 289F
MDA沒錯,錯在湖人當初第一時間不是找phil
05/15 11:09, 289F

05/15 11:48, , 290F
phil胃口太大了 老闆不想給
05/15 11:48, 290F

05/15 11:56, , 291F
看看油頭,不覺得禪師胃口有多大。小老闆跟庫胖怕失權吧
05/15 11:56, 291F

05/15 12:02, , 292F
但你看看其他球隊有哪隊提供給Phil他想要的位置的?
05/15 12:02, 292F

05/15 12:04, , 293F
兩回事吧,禪師在湖人有其歷史地位,油頭也不會去別隊幹
05/15 12:04, 293F

05/15 12:05, , 294F
他就是想經營球隊 其他隊提供位置他一定去的 說歷史地位
05/15 12:05, 294F

05/15 12:05, , 295F
公牛 尼克他也有淵源 山貓也有MJ
05/15 12:05, 295F

05/15 12:07, , 296F
尊重你的看法~
05/15 12:07, 296F

05/16 10:17, , 297F
油頭從90尼克就開始操盤球隊,Phil從沒操盤過球隊
05/16 10:17, 297F

05/16 10:19, , 298F
公牛後面是老克 湖人後面是West 庫胖這些頂尖GM在撐
05/16 10:19, 298F

05/16 10:48, , 299F
禪師是個操盤菜鳥,直接就想跟庫胖分權
05/16 10:48, 299F

05/16 10:50, , 300F
不講Jim 湖人其他中小股東也不會多放心
05/16 10:50, 300F

06/06 15:00, , 301F
然後不跑轟就沒招了@@品客...
06/06 15:00, 301F
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