[情報] 埃及梅西轉會真相
和各位致歉啊,早上太忙了, 有幾個段落的前後文沒看仔細,造成翻譯上的錯誤.
現在已補完
國外網友po的這張圖滿好笑的 http://ppt.cc/wabZ
懶得看全文的可以直接看以下的中文重點整理~
Interesting post on Salah deal on RAWK:
Ok guys, I was the source the RAWK source during this whole thing. I didn't
want to reveal myself cause I didn't want to get bombarded with PMs every
couple of hours about him, but since this one is basically as good as over
for us, there is no harm in pointing out some details about this transfer to
let the RAWK universe know how much we fucked up during this transfer as my
source is as close to the player as you can get.
First of all, let me tell you that I'm not a fan of the club overpaying by
any stretch, I hate it when clubs like City or Chelsea pay over the top fees
for the likes of Lescott or Shaun Wright Phillips cause that means the market
is inflated. However, just because the market is inflated doesn't mean that
there are some players out there who are worth a good chunk of money to be
paid for.
There is also a fine line between being too smart and being too smart for
your own good, I didn't exactly followed the ins & outs of our other
negotiation models with the other targets in the summer but there is a
pattern developing of us missing out on first targets like Dempsey,
Mkhitaryan, Costa, Willian and bar a miracle now, Salah. It is hard to
properly judge the transfer committee plus I feel for the scouts who have
their hard work cut out for when a club comes in and gets the players we have
been following for months.
Now we were following Salah closely since October, we sent a lot of scouts to
Basel games, began negotiating in November and his agent met with Ayre in the
West Ham game to discuss terms with them. We had a verbal agreement with
Basel regarding everything and we quickly became Salah's favoured destination
as he saw us as a club where he can grow, get a lot of 1st team action and
become a world class player. I don't know what happened between Salah's agent
and Ayre, but the impression that the club got from that meeting was that, in
reality there is no way Salah is going to leave for anyone bar Liverpool
and/or there are no real offers on the table for Basel bar us. When we got to
sending Basel our opening offer, it was a laughable offer well below what was
verbally agreed upon, think of Wenger 40 million plus one pound bid, this was
even more laughable.
幫各位劃一下重點..
我們的球探在10月就已經在考察埃及梅西, 在11月Ayre和他的經紀人在西漢姆的比賽中就
已經有討論此次的轉會, 並且和巴塞爾在轉會細節上有口頭協議.
我們提出的第一次報價,是讓人想翻桌的. 何謂想翻桌? 就像溫格當初報價４０ｍ＋１
這就是讓人想翻桌的~
Basel raised their as a result of being pissed off. We tried to up our offer
but it was again well below what was previously agreed upon and Basel didn't
want to lower their demands as they sensed that we were wasting their time.
They even began courting other clubs that Salah is available. Milan & Inter
thought that Basel's original demands were too high for them, Leverkusen,
Wolfsburg & Monchengladbach were ready to pay but Salah didn't want to go to
Germany. Basel tried to claim that Atletico was interested but it was a bluff
by all accounts, however a host of other clubs wanted to be kept updated on
the deal one of whom was Chelsea.
巴塞爾提高了埃及梅西的價位因為被激怒到. 我們試著提高我們的報價, 但巴塞爾也
不想讓步,覺得我們沒有誠意,是在浪費他們時間. 所以巴塞爾引誘其他的俱樂部讓他們知
道埃及梅西可以賣唷~ 米蘭,國米認為巴塞爾的要價太高.勒臥庫森,狼堡, 等德甲的俱樂部
都有出價,但是他不想去德國踢球. 甚至巴塞爾還說連馬競都想買唷~ 但我們覺得
巴塞爾在唬爛. 然而切爾西卻一直在旁虎視眈眈企圖攔胡.
Since we saw that Salah didn't want to go to the Bundesliga and with no other
club offering Basel any offer, we assumed he'll stay there till the summer
and we can re-open negotiations, but Newcastle offered Basel a good first
offer and now him coming to us in the summer was in doubt if Basel &
Newcastle agree a fee. That's why we came back with a much more improved
offer, almost what was verbally agreed upon before the window even started.
Salah's personal demands were also agreed previously so there was no problems
with him & his agent, just us agreeing some minor details with Basel.
Chelsea, who were updated on the deal, at last asked about his availability
and Basel asked about 8 million more than what we were offering (they tried
to fleece Chelsea and I'm sorry last night I got confused cause I
misunderstood my source as telling me Chelsea offered 8 million more, which
isn't true) but Chelsea really offered a couple of million more than us but
with a lot of add ons that favour Basel heavily, we didn't even hesitate and
backed off, not even matching their deal.
我們知道了埃及梅西不想去德國踢球, 而且沒有其他俱樂部有提出報價,我們以為他會留到
賽季末, 待夏轉時再來談判. 但是該死的紐卡給了一分不錯的報價, 我們抖了一下.
如果巴塞爾同意了紐卡的報價,那夏轉就毀了~ 所以這就是為什麼我們提高了報價.
早在冬轉之前我們就已經有口頭上的協議, 埃及梅西的待遇及個人條款也達成共識
這時候切爾西出來搶人了, 詢問了巴塞爾有沒有想賣的意願, 而巴塞爾開了比我們當初的
報價多了８M,(他們想趁火打劫切爾西一筆, 很抱歉我搞混了,我誤解了我線人的爆料,
他說切爾西已經報價8M以上了, 但實際上不是）
但切爾西的報價確實比我們高但是多了一些浮動獎金, 而這讓巴塞爾很心動. 但我們毫不
猶豫的也跟了,但是我們的報價還是低過切爾西.
The only thing stopping Salah from going to Chelsea is that he doesn't want
to go there, full stop. Him & his advisers believe he won't get much playing
time there and if it is in his hands, it is better to stay at Basel and wait
till the summer to get his move, however Basel want to sell & get their money
now and begin scouting their next target (who will also be from Egypt). There
is a third club who asked for Salah's availability (my source won't tell me
cause Salah doesn't want this to go public as he prefers to join that third
club over Chelsea and doesn't want a repeat of the fiasco surrounding his
negotiations with Liverpool) but like I said barring a miracle, most probably
he won't be our player come the end of the window.
事實上埃及梅西不想去切爾西,因為去那邊要坐板凳, 他反而希望到夏天在走, 但巴塞爾
貪財,希望趕快賣掉他,拿到資金在去買下一個球員.
What makes this irritating is that we wasted three months of scouting him,
weeks of negotiations and then tried to lowball Basel and looked stupid at
the end when we fell flat on our arses. Board wise, there have to be some
questions asked about how good we are at negotiating some deals.
很肚爛的是我們浪費了三個月的時間考察及談判.
還有一個很大的問題, 我們在轉會協商的談判真他媽的好棒棒~
所以這應該不難解釋為什麼Ayre被譙成這樣.. 如果一開始不要報這種讓人想翻桌的價錢
或許被攔胡的機會不那麼高~ 不過足球的世界就是降啦~ 有錢最大. 希望我軍能打造成
像多特蒙德這樣,小成本經營,還能踢得有模有樣 ＝＝
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欣慰的是,我們也當過土豪,
1. 3500萬鎊霸氣買下鋒霸卡羅爾
2. 2000萬鎊打包唐寧
3. 1200萬?拿下黑貓新秀亨德森
4. 800萬搶到亞當
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喔 我是指他來利物浦之後,沒有一個搬得上檯面的替補, 只有恩格這種等級的
所以他就不斷的上場不斷的受傷, 到最後還50M賣出, 超賺~
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