[情報] Cards won't fold should Albert leave

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The St. Louis Cardinals ranked among Major League Baseball’s most successful franchises before Albert Pujols arrived. And the Cardinals will remain prosperous long after the Pujols Era finally ends, however it ends. Baseball is bigger than one player around here. It always has been, it always will be – despite perceptions outside the market. “Albert is the brand of the Cardinals,” one unnamed agent told ESPN.com recently. “Period. [Bill] DeWitt should have sold the team if he didn't think they could sign Albert Pujols.” Why would DeWitt sell the team? It is profitable and competitive now. It would remain profitable and competitive with Albert, should the two sides strike a mammoth new deal allowing him to retire here. And DeWitt knows the Cards would remain profitable and competitive should Albert depart as a free agent after this season. The team was drawing 3 million fans a year before Pujols arrived. The team will continue drawing 3 million fans a year, with or without Albert, as long as it remains reasonably competitive. No. 5’s exit would anger the fan base, for sure, but the citizens of Cardinal Nation wouldn't abandon Our National Pastime en masse to protest his departure. This is the team’s leverage. Albert’s leverage is his standing as the best offensive player of his generation and the eagerness of other teams to get him. Thus the impasse continues, as Joe Strauss wrote in his excellent analysis of the situation. Fans are understandably fretful. They fear the worst. They worry that DeWitt will be cheap or that Albert will be greedy. But remember how this franchise has weathered storms over the years. Iconic manager Whitey Herzog threw up his hands in frustration and quit in 1990 as his team staggered toward a last-place finish. Hindered by budgetary constraints and poor management, the team missed the playoffs the next five seasons. Yet the fan base remained eerily strong in the face of relentless mediocrity, never drawing fewer than 2.4 million fans for a full season. The Cards survived the great 1994-95 labor dispute, too. Some fans never returned after play resumed, but most eventually did. Since 1996, the average Cards attendance has never dipped below 32,000 fans per game. The franchise survived the unhappy end of the Ozzie Smith Era, which saw the beloved Hall of Fame-bound shortstop relegated to a secondary role before retiring. The bitter Wizard waged a one-man PR campaign against manager Tony La Russa from that point on. Fans shrugged and kept attending games. Media types became outraged when La Russa hired steroid cheat Mark McGwire as his hitting coach. How could the team bring back the man who embarrassed the franchise and the city with his admitted use of performance-enhancing drugs? Fans shrugged and kept attending games. Now the Pujols Contract is front and center in the debate. The Cards stand to lose season-ticket holders and perhaps some corporate support if he departs. Fans would be especially upset if they believed DeWitt and Co. insulted Albert with low-ball offers. But baseball would still be baseball and the Cardinals would still be the Cardinals. The franchise has locked in other star players, like former batting champ Matt Holliday, former Cy Young Award winner Chris Carpenter and former World Series hero Adam Wainwright. Given their durable fan support, the Cards would be able to redistribute the money Albert rejects to other high-end players. Life would go on. St. Louis isn’t Cleveland. The Cardinals aren’t the Cavaliers. And Albert Pujols isn’t LeBron James. 全文大意在於: 小普在紅鳥的時代將要結束了,某位經紀人提到假使沒辦法續簽的話不如把球隊賣了 球迷怕老闆太小氣或是小普獅子大開口而導致談判破裂 但即使雙方各分東西,球還是要看的,而不會因為看板的離開就不看球了 紅鳥也不會像某隊一樣因為看板走了就倒地不起 最後作者還小小的婊了騎士跟LBJ....XD 有誤請指正,thx http://tinyurl.com/4tw5aq6 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 122.121.24.115

01/27 23:35, , 1F
借轉紅鳥
01/27 23:35, 1F
ck3300511:轉錄至看板 Cardinals 01/27 23:35

01/27 23:36, , 2F
還蠻希望Pujols穿費城球衣,可惜有霍華德了
01/27 23:36, 2F

01/27 23:37, , 3F
WTH
01/27 23:37, 3F

01/27 23:41, , 4F
Decision
01/27 23:41, 4F

01/27 23:43, , 5F
Pujols:我如果也開個Decision特別節目收視率不知道多少
01/27 23:43, 5F

01/27 23:43, , 6F
三樓......費城人要開始收集公仔了嗎XD
01/27 23:43, 6F

01/27 23:54, , 7F
紅襪跟洋基都是在評估Pujols不會進FA的前提下分別補進了Tex
01/27 23:54, 7F

01/27 23:54, , 8F
跟A-Gon, 雖然A-Gon還沒簽長約, 但是有A-Gon明年FA等於紅襪
01/27 23:54, 8F

01/27 23:54, , 9F
看來剩梅子跟白年有財力了 ...
01/27 23:54, 9F

01/27 23:55, , 10F
更正 百年
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01/27 23:55, , 11F
有退路 又少了洋基拉抬 要簽出這種價碼跟長度 難度非常高...
01/27 23:55, 11F

01/27 23:55, , 12F
期待遊騎兵再度來攪局吧 XD
01/27 23:55, 12F

01/27 23:58, , 13F
CGary第一行說的有連結嗎
01/27 23:58, 13F

01/27 23:59, , 14F
沒有連結 那只不過算是推估 那是Tex簽約時候的氛圍 大家評估
01/27 23:59, 14F

01/27 23:59, , 15F
都是講Tex vs A-Gon 而 Pujols 會是終身紅雀人...
01/27 23:59, 15F

01/27 23:59, , 16F
真希望躲人有這財力...我要看loney這小水槍多久阿 = =
01/27 23:59, 16F

01/27 23:59, , 17F
不然也很難會出現這種十年約綁死1B的狀況...
01/27 23:59, 17F

01/28 00:00, , 18F
而A-Gon 很明顯 因為教士根本沒錢留他...
01/28 00:00, 18F

01/28 00:01, , 19F
鐵爺簽約的時間和普吼獅進FA的時間差很遠耶
01/28 00:01, 19F

01/28 00:01, , 20F
如果Pujols有任何風吹草動可能會進FA, 你不會讓你自己陷入
01/28 00:01, 20F

01/28 00:02, , 21F
沒有機會簽下歷史上數一數二1B的機會的 尤其是像NYY這等級的
01/28 00:02, 21F

01/28 00:02, , 22F
球隊 不過那時Pujols話是說得蠻死的...XD
01/28 00:02, 22F

01/28 00:03, , 23F
而A-Gon也一樣 如果Pujols會進FA, Redsox是否會冒險清農場
01/28 00:03, 23F

01/28 00:03, , 24F
洋基的The boss如果要硬來的話,可能性是有,只是不大
01/28 00:03, 24F

01/28 00:03, , 25F
就是nyy這種等級的球隊才不太會空著大棒的位子等四年吧
01/28 00:03, 25F

01/28 00:03, , 26F
換次一等的選擇就很有疑問了 雖然A-Gon也是非常優秀的選擇
01/28 00:03, 26F

01/28 00:04, , 27F
但如果肯放權給Cashman,那8成不會做這傻事就是了
01/28 00:04, 27F

01/28 00:04, , 28F
大棒子願意簽四年的多得是 NYY選擇不是只有Tex的 但是Tex是
01/28 00:04, 28F

01/28 00:05, , 29F
十年二十年一遇的選手 沒有Pujols這選項 Tex 就肯定是最好的
01/28 00:05, 29F

01/28 00:05, , 30F
NYY 一定是這樣考慮才合理...
01/28 00:05, 30F

01/28 00:07, , 31F
Teixeira是十年二十年一遇...有這麼誇張喔...
01/28 00:07, 31F

01/28 00:09, , 32F
以今年Hal硬簽Sori的情況看來,年底如果Pujols進FA的話
01/28 00:09, 32F

01/28 00:09, , 33F
如果只講棒子 他倒還好 如果有這等級還有手套 目前聯盟也只
01/28 00:09, 33F

01/28 00:09, , 34F
說完全不可能出手倒也不見得
01/28 00:09, 34F

01/28 00:10, , 35F
有A-Gon可以配跟他爭而已 而Pujols是外星人 別理他XD
01/28 00:10, 35F

01/28 00:11, , 36F
所以既然有人可以爭 那算個五年一遇我覺得比較恰當
01/28 00:11, 36F

01/28 00:11, , 37F
Teix也還好吧= =...比他優秀的一壘手現在也有幾個阿
01/28 00:11, 37F

01/28 00:12, , 38F
要論巔峰的棒子 十年內孩排不上前三吧
01/28 00:12, 38F
還有 68 則推文
01/28 00:42, , 107F
但是紅襪跟NYY這幾年薪資都卡得蠻緊的 Theo願不願意這樣灑錢
01/28 00:42, 107F

01/28 00:43, , 108F
也是重點...看起來Theo並不喜歡用這種超高價位簽FA...
01/28 00:43, 108F

01/28 00:43, , 109F
看鐵爺今年的表現吧..如果今年打的跟10年一樣的話...
01/28 00:43, 109F

01/28 00:43, , 110F
出手機率超高
01/28 00:43, 110F

01/28 00:43, , 111F
NYY看Cashman會不會真的被迫出走 真的讓他出走...
01/28 00:43, 111F

01/28 00:43, , 112F
如果普神回外野這樣有搞頭嗎XDDD
01/28 00:43, 112F

01/28 00:43, , 113F
情況大概會跟08年搶鐵爺很類似
01/28 00:43, 113F

01/28 00:43, , 114F
Hal的腦袋............................
01/28 00:43, 114F

01/28 00:44, , 115F
A-Rod所有的防守數據只有球迷評價那項是正的 XD
01/28 00:44, 115F

01/28 00:46, , 116F
不要再叫Pujols轉守位了
01/28 00:46, 116F

01/28 00:47, , 117F
Pujols這等級的選手 通常都是把別人踢離守位的 所以當年ARod
01/28 00:47, 117F

01/28 00:47, , 118F
他有傷,而且在一壘守得好好又最大咖
01/28 00:47, 118F

01/28 00:47, , 119F
被踢離守位才會吵成這樣阿...:p
01/28 00:47, 119F

01/28 00:48, , 120F
而且Jeter游擊守的沒有A-Rod好
01/28 00:48, 120F

01/28 00:49, , 121F
現在鐵爺在球迷心中的位置 並沒有當初Jeter那樣崇高= =
01/28 00:49, 121F

01/28 00:53, , 122F
不只是沒有 應該說差多了= =...
01/28 00:53, 122F

01/28 00:54, , 123F
=.= 差很多
01/28 00:54, 123F

01/28 00:54, , 124F
應該說放眼MLB 也沒有其他球員的地位有Jeter之於NYY高
01/28 00:54, 124F

01/28 00:59, , 125F
01/28 00:59, 125F

01/28 01:07, , 126F
交友廣
01/28 01:07, 126F

01/28 01:30, , 127F
Arod現在雖不頂尖 但在3B應該還是有平均左右
01/28 01:30, 127F

01/28 01:32, , 128F
守備方面
01/28 01:32, 128F

01/28 02:56, , 129F
我覺得A-Gon紅襪會想辦法留住 不然這次的交易簡直打臉
01/28 02:56, 129F

01/28 03:00, , 130F
Theo沒那麼蠢 多等一年頂級1B有2-3隻會進FA 沒必要丟作物
01/28 03:00, 130F

01/28 03:25, , 131F
我完全無法想像Albert Pujols離開St. Louis Cardinals。
01/28 03:25, 131F

01/28 03:33, , 132F
看NYY有沒有機會把鐵爺交易給其他隊 然後搶Pujols
01/28 03:33, 132F

01/28 03:37, , 133F
Teix 如果 NYY 要在這個時間點賣出 可能要吃下一些薪資才行
01/28 03:37, 133F

01/28 03:38, , 134F
更何況市場上有普猴 也可能有A-Gon...
01/28 03:38, 134F

01/28 03:48, , 135F
A-Gon的狀況是如果他們簽得下普猴 也不會打臉 此一時彼一時
01/28 03:48, 135F

01/28 03:49, , 136F
那時候沒人知道普猴可能會進FA,Theo當然得想點辦法...
01/28 03:49, 136F

01/28 03:49, , 137F
現在看來雙方都不是很急著一定要簽下來 可能是在觀望普猴...
01/28 03:49, 137F

01/28 07:56, , 138F
當沒續約 Pujols又沒FA的時候就打臉了 花了自己這麼多農場
01/28 07:56, 138F

01/28 07:57, , 139F
換來比別人一年談約的機會 沒可能去等一個不知道會不會進
01/28 07:57, 139F

01/28 07:57, , 140F
FA的火星人吧
01/28 07:57, 140F

01/28 10:21, , 141F
Sabean問:Pujols有33了嗎?
01/28 10:21, 141F

01/28 10:32, , 142F
還沒 如果是10年約的話 買的是Pujols的32~41歲
01/28 10:32, 142F

01/28 11:31, , 143F
Sabean:好,等Pujols 33歲拿盲腸波西Cain來交易
01/28 11:31, 143F

01/28 12:19, , 144F
雖然我也不信就算NYY有Teix Pujols進FA場他會不衝
01/28 12:19, 144F

01/28 14:52, , 145F
說期待Teix的WAR要衝上8 我也只能點點點了......
01/28 14:52, 145F

01/28 14:59, , 146F
老闆做主 cashman 閃邊 ,NYY就可能衝了
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