[外電] Trade Liriano? It isn't just crazy talk

看板MLB (美國職棒/大聯盟)作者 (ネギ)時間14年前 (2011/02/11 20:19), 編輯推噓15(15012)
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Even if the Twins don't deal him, the starter doesn't appear to be in team's long-term plans. With six pitchers vying for five spots in the Twins starting rotation, one possible solution is trading Francisco Liriano. Speaking to team officials recently, I've been surprised how open they are to this possibility, but the logic makes sense. Liriano, 27, can become a free agent after the 2012 season. Coming off a resurgent year, he might never have a higher trade value. One thing is clear: The Twins don't plan to sign him long term. Last weekend, they avoided arbitration with a one-year, $4.3 million deal. From what I've heard, their long-term talks went nowhere, with Liriano's camp hinting it wanted a three-year, $39 million contract. Even if that was just a starting point for negotiations -- and to be clear, I'm not sure -- the Twins were wise to pass. For one thing, Liriano is still an injury risk. He had arm injuries coming through the minors, he had Tommy John elbow surgery in 2006 and he still has a violent delivery. For all the talk about how Liriano is learning to trust his fastball and changeup, the lefthander relied heavily on his slider again last season. According to FanGraphs.com, 38 percent of the pitches he threw as a rookie in 2006 were sliders. That number dipped to 27 percent during his abysmal 2009 season and returned to 34 percent last year. Liriano might look like a blue-chip stock again, but rather than investing big, the Twins seem content to maximize his current value. They can tap him for about 65 starts over the next two seasons and collect two draft picks if he leaves as a free agent. Or they can trade him. Let's say the Yankees grow increasingly desperate after failing to sign Cliff Lee and seeing Andy Pettitte retire. New York's top rotation candidates are CC Sabathia, Phil Hughes, A.J. Burnett, Ivan Nova, Sergio Mitre, Bartolo Colon and Freddy Garcia. That group could get eaten alive in the AL East. By mid-March, if the other five starters -- Carl Pavano, Brian Duensing, Scott Baker, Nick Blackburn and Kevin Slowey -- are healthy, and top prospect Kyle Gibson looks like the real deal, the Twins might be weighing offers for Liriano. Other teams couldn't help being intrigued after Liriano went 14-10 with a 3.62 ERA last year with 201 strikeouts in 191 2/3 innings. Liriano ranked second in the majors behind Roy Halladay in xFIP (expected fielding independent pitching), a stat that measures just what the pitcher controls -- such as walks, strikeouts and home runs -- and to some analysts is a better predictor of a pitcher's future success than ERA. Liriano might seem like the closest thing the Twins have to a true No. 1 pitcher, but is he really that close? The lefthander was bewildered in 2009, when he went 5-13 with a 5.80 ERA. Last year, he had everything working again and still came up short in big situations. After opening the season as the No. 5 starter, Liriano had several dominant games, including June 11, when he struck out 11 Atlanta batters over eight innings in a 2-1 victory. But in his final 20 starts, including the postseason, he didn't finish the eighth inning once. In his much-hyped showdown with Colorado's Ubaldo Jimenez, the Rockies batted around in the first inning. The Twins won all five of Liriano's starts against the White Sox, but his performances were more white-knuckle than dominant. Then, in Game 1 of the Division Series, Liriano had a 3-0 lead in the sixth inning when the Yankees came back to tie it. Afterward, Liriano was his usual polite self, but it was a huge letdown for the team. Publicly, the Twins keep saying Liriano is a big part of their 2011 plans. They'd love to see him prove the skeptics wrong and blossom into a 20-game winner, even if this leaves fans screaming about their decision not to sign him long term. Ultimately, they'll have to weigh his potential performance against what he could bring in a trade. Tampa Bay received a big haul last month when it shipped former Twins righthander Matt Garza to the Cubs. Some said the Rays received more than Kansas City did in sending Zack Greinke to Milwaukee. Like Liriano, Greinke and Garza are both two years from free agency. The 2008 Johan Santana trade showed how limiting returns can be when top pitchers are traded one year from free agency. And Santana was a two-time Cy Young Award winner with impeccable mechanics and no history of arm injuries. 似乎是真的想把他送走,並沒有把他當作未來計畫的藍圖.... 文章內分析理由可能為傷病問題, http://tinyurl.com/4vr9f4e -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.171.246.18

02/11 20:22, , 1F
洋基要衝了嗎
02/11 20:22, 1F

02/11 20:38, , 2F
萬用包 : Nova+Adams+Who上場囉
02/11 20:38, 2F

02/11 20:43, , 3F
也只有一直看到2F再推萬用包梗
02/11 20:43, 3F

02/11 20:52, , 4F
宅慶準備好了
02/11 20:52, 4F

02/11 20:52, , 5F
趁高價脫手?
02/11 20:52, 5F

02/11 21:55, , 6F
有沒有老想用稻草換金條的八卦?
02/11 21:55, 6F

02/11 21:59, , 7F
Betemit和Swisher及阿Ken表示:
02/11 21:59, 7F

02/11 22:51, , 8F
如果雙城真的有意這時候賣他,代表他傷痛的問題可能比大家
02/11 22:51, 8F

02/11 22:52, , 9F
想像的要大,那為何其他GM要出到頂級的包裹呢?
02/11 22:52, 9F

02/11 23:33, , 10F
我所看到的報導應該是今年談extension雙方並無共識
02/11 23:33, 10F

02/11 23:33, , 11F
39MM/3y我個人也認為是開價太高
02/11 23:33, 11F

02/11 23:34, , 12F
每個投手都會被質疑傷痛問題 這文章的論點不代表什麼吧
02/11 23:34, 12F

02/11 23:34, , 13F
再加上不想等到最後一年才交易,畢竟Santana那個交易
02/11 23:34, 13F

02/11 23:35, , 14F
殷鑑不遠,所以才有可能選擇現在的時機
02/11 23:35, 14F

02/11 23:35, , 15F
嫌貨才是買貨人 就繼續給他看下去吧
02/11 23:35, 15F

02/11 23:44, , 16F
他還有兩年約,雙城是有能力衝擊季後賽的球隊,沒道理把輪
02/11 23:44, 16F

02/11 23:45, , 17F
值中最好的且是唯二去年OPS+破百的,在這時候賣出,如果真
02/11 23:45, 17F

02/11 23:45, , 18F
是延長合約問題,也是等到今年季中確定無緣季後賽比較合理
02/11 23:45, 18F

02/11 23:55, , 19F
我也不認為雙城會在分區冠軍候補和外卡稍落後其他幾隻球隊
02/11 23:55, 19F

02/11 23:56, , 20F
的情況下交易Liriano尤其是給洋基除非他們能拿到等價的
02/11 23:56, 20F

02/11 23:56, , 21F
戰力例如cano
02/11 23:56, 21F

02/12 00:01, , 22F
為什麼大家都把焦點放在NYY上?XD
02/12 00:01, 22F

02/12 00:11, , 23F
因為大家都知我們Yankees的SP季後補強很...
02/12 00:11, 23F

02/12 00:31, , 24F
山寨版山大王 去年不是算不錯了
02/12 00:31, 24F

02/12 00:35, , 25F
關鍵就在於到底雙城的FO有沒有真的把今年當作衝擊季後賽
02/12 00:35, 25F

02/12 00:36, , 26F
的最後幾個機會了~不然只要一般等級SP的話是多到滿出來
02/12 00:36, 26F

02/12 09:26, , 27F
山大王如果不是傷痛…他還是最威的
02/12 09:26, 27F
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